Since my first in 1960 or so, I've tied a few jigs, but...have never used or even held in my hands chenille. So, what is the mid-body wrap called and what is it for?
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Since my first in 1960 or so, I've tied a few jigs, but...have never used or even held in my hands chenille. So, what is the mid-body wrap called and what is it for?
Chenille is the body part of jigs that use chenille like most of mine. It is not pipe cleaners or that stuff you get at walmart either. Good tying chenille comes in Rayon and Nylon with Nylon being a little more costly and make for a neater jig.
Skip
Here is a pic of chenille...
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4...8/DSC02199.jpg
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It is called chenille. Guess it makes the body bigger and it hides all the thread you use to tie stuff on.:) :)
Now let me ask another dumb question. After you hide the thread with the chenille..how do you keep the chenille from coming loose.
flex glue. A little dab will do ya
Mostly with a good whip finish after trapping it with the thread. Actually I don't think my jigs would come apart even if I didn't put that one drop of thinned glue.
So my answer is with the thread and a whip finish. Some like a different knot, but the whip finish is king.
Skip
thanks guys
Oh and you trap it before you cut it off to length.
Skip
Check out Skip's sticky on this page titled "How to tie a jig." He ties with chenille on that jig. It takes you right through on the steps. That's some awesome looking NEW AGE CHENILLE in Skip's photo.I need to get some of those colors.What colors are these Skip?
As far as I know it is called the thorax or body. Some call it the mid section, some call it the shank section.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1aB
As for what it is for, just to give the jig or fly some body and size. This sets it off from the tail section and also creates a nice thick section that is normally just a little bit bigger or slightly smaller than the head of the jig. Most critters that fish eat that I have found have a larger body than their head but most jigs I see are just the opposite.
ok well i've seen lots of people use the whip finisher but there doing it so fast im not seeing how to use it ? is there a video of some one using the whip finisher in slow motion?
thanks
For years I've used hitch knots (or is it double hitch, not sure) and just recently purchased a whip finisher. Darn thing is smarter than me I guess, cause I can't get it to do what I want either. :o I got the "Improved" whip finisher, maybe I should have got the rotating one??? :confused: Oh well, the hitch thing works for now, but I'll keep trying the whip.
jost and attica check out youtube they got some good video on how to use a whip finisher that they go nice and slow...hope this helps
Have you not looked at the sticky post I made about 3 ways to finish? There are videos and all.Quote:
Originally Posted by crappie josh
Skip
My biggest problem with the whip is once I go to release the thread and pull, it just doesn't end up where I want it and looks sloppy. I have the hitch down to detail about where it ends up. Probably just a get used to it thing.
AF, just get your thread up against the head and then hook up the whip finish tool and when you make you wraps kind of favor the head side to keep it hidden. Now if you are doing a thread neck jig start you wraps a bit away from the head and warp to the head and when you get it done, hold tension on the thread when you cut it and the tag end will disappear inside the whip finish.Quote:
Originally Posted by AtticaFish
Now I don't know what thread you are using, but I mostly use Flat Waxed 210 Denier made by Danville. If I need to use a color I don't have that thread in and have to use say 6/0 then I make one less wrap so it will pull up snug better. I use 5 wraps on the 210 and 4 on 6/0 and 140 Denier.
It's kind of hard when we are talking with typed words and not face to face.
Skip
Well, that answers one question I had, how many times to wrap the knot itself. I've switched up and use some pretty thin thread now, not sure what kind it actually is. I will keep at it for sure.
Gotta get back to work before they hold my paycheck! Thanks!
Think I said I use 5 wraps on the 210 denier and 4 on smaller thread. I do that because with 5 wraps on the thinner thread it will break more easy and I do break it a lot like that. I am just to heavy handed.Quote:
Originally Posted by AtticaFish
Skip
It was a royal pain to learn the whip finish. Got very frustrating and then all of a sudden the light bulb went on. It's super easy once it clicks. I guess it took me a couple short sessions to learn it, but they were frustrating sessions! Once you'll learn you can get very quick at it after just a few times.
J
Absolutely! Well said and I do admit it's not easy to learn right at first, but once you get it then it turns to very easy to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by AgriHawg
Skip
That's the truth!!!! I learned the whip the hard way with the old Thompson whip tool!!! Those who know what it is would agree, use a Materelli tool now but have gone to using my hands more and more.
Fatman
i had to take the wife to the DR today and so it was an automatic day off so i went to bass pro and the guy in the fly fishing department showed me how to use the whip finisher and then he let me give it a try and it was hard the first couple of times but the third time i used the whip finisher it was a breeze i guess i just need someone to show me now the whip finisher is quick and easy :D
i jsut looked up your 3 ways to finish Skip and i guess i missed it but thanks it will still help me out alot :cool:
That Thompson is really only any good on flies and is one thing I have against some kits as that is what they put in them and you can't tie a jig with that whip finish tool. It is hard enough to use on a fly, LOL!Quote:
Originally Posted by Fatman
I have one other brand and still can't use it, LOL!
Skip
A couple of half hitches and a wip finish
what is the difference between head cement and clear finger nail polish?
is there one?
sewing thread or the tying thread and what is up with the tying wire? that i seen at bass pro is that too thin for crappie jigs?
:confused:
Well, I have learned a few things over the years. I prefer flexement, but some on here like the clear fingernail polish. As far as the thread, get the real stuff!! Sewing thread does work and used it for years but it just does not have the strength as the good stuff. What size or thickness or whatever it goes by.... I'm still undecided there!