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Humminbird must really be slow in updating their website. I say this because they have all new models with bonus features, which you can see on other websites, but not on theirs. My big gripe about the 797 was that it only had one card slot. No problem, the 798 has 2 and better resolution, and the 50Channel reciever.
And they added the 3 programmable buttons, I like that.
So why wouldn't your own site, have the latest and greatest on it? You've got me? :confused:
Try some of the marine electronics on the web. You dont need Hummingbird. HB has a phone line to the tec. service. They are very helpful I have used them while I was on the lake. Good luck.
The problem with hummingbird is just that hummingbird gota have a garmin!
Been lurking and reading...been an avid Lowrance fan for 25 years. Only experience with hummingbird was early after I replaced my Lowrance flasher with my first "pixel" graph. Anyway, was really thinking about the new HDS from Lowrance but then a friend mentioned HP and SI.
Went to their site and was looking at what I thought was the new line...found this... 997c SI Combo.
Then I stumbled onto this site...looks like it is directly connected with HP.Humminbird 997C SI Combo w/ Transom-Mount Transducer, 406970-1
Now correct me i I am wrong, but HB has been having some problems with "software" in conjunction with their gps. Looking through both sites the "Factory Outlet" product has a "NOTICEABLE"
and in RED description of their new setup, and I quote "16 Channel WAAS/EGNOS GPS Receiver Included".
On the other website, there is no mention of this. Am I looking at this wrong? I have tried to compare both products and look for similiarities and difference. The only thing I noticed so far was that in the description of the product. The outlet store has a capital "C" after 997. The HB site only provides a lower case "c". Guess maybe I need to know and understand the hierarchy in this regards to their naming system and what year each one represents.
Any thoughts?
The C doesn't really matter with a 997. Just denotes COLOR, which the unit always is. I'm not sure if there is a difference between the 16 channel and the 50 channel since the software seems to be the problem. What sucks, is that any lowrance unit functions perfectly with a 16 Channel.Quote:
Originally Posted by drifter106
Now if you want to know everything about the unit, you better get with Canepole. I'm sure by now he's torn into one and probably modified it to suit his needs. He's an electronic wizard. (Canepole, I'd like to get a price quote to send you my SI trolling motor transducer to see if you can splice it better then I was able to. Hit a stump and broke a couple wires)
When I buy, it'll be from these guys Marine Electronics & Fishing Equipment, Buy Humminbird, Raymarine & Garmin Fishfinders, Handheld GPS, Chartplotters, Radios, Radars & Autopilots Online
probably the best prices I've seen.
To me, it's not worth the money to buy a lowrance high end, big screen unit, since it lacks SI. I have found cars, 50Gallon Drums, submerged foundations, etc with the SI, plus some great laydowns that were not visible from the water. Certainly you might be able to recognize a laydown with the lowrance, but it's a lot easier when you pretty much have a picture of what's under the water. JMO I'll be buying the 798 within a couple weeks if everything works out right.
Sorry, just now read your post. Take it off and send it to me. No charge and no guarantee.:eek: I will see what I can do with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by mduncan62
I'll be taking it off in a couple days, and I'll pm you for your info. I appreciate it, and if it dies it's not that big of a deal. Decided I didn't need two SI units so I just got a 778C from J and H delivered today. Got the interlink and ram mount. Wish they would have had the second card reader on the 797 like they have on the new 700's. I'm not sure I'd use it on my 778c, since it's not SI. They did include the 50 channel gps puck, don't know that I'll bother with it though.
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Originally Posted by mduncan62
ok.
The 50 channel GPS antenna puck is an upgrade. It does not come with the new units. The 16 channel GPS antenna puck is what comes with the units. The 50 channel is just a higher accuracy antenna.
The problems with the GPS with the SI has been that when you are using the bird's eye view, the response from the gps to showing your position on the screen is slow updating. HB is aware of the issue. I would expect there to be a software release to fix this issue. HB normally releases software in the spring and the fall. Let's hope for a spring release.
Even with the slow gps response issue, I have thoroughly enjoyed my 997. It has saved me some serious time. It's cool to be able to make a couple of swipes through a cove and know everything that is going on. It saves me so much time of having to do it the old fashion way of having to use a traditional down looking sonar and having to scan every square foot of the cove.
There is a lake I have been fishing for over 30 years and I have learned more about it in the last 6 months than I have the past 30 years by have this SI unit.
What is so cool is that it doesn't matter what kind of boat you have. What I mean is that some may say that spending $2K on a SI unit for a cheap boat or an aluminum boat is crazy! I disagree. It doesn't matter if you put it on a $100 jon boat. That $100 jon boat can now do everything a $50k boat can do.
Just my two cents.
Might want to check your information. I just bought at new 788C combo and it came with the 50 channel, as do all the new units. The purpose of this thread was to say that they have all new units out this year that you can purchase from retailers, but HB does not even have them on the HB site yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by icemanrrc
i just order a 997 csi and i called 10 different suppliers and they all said it came with a 16 channel gps .but all the new 700 sereis said they had a 50 channelQuote:
Originally Posted by mduncan62
All 2009 models of the 798,997 & 1197 come with the standard 50 channel receiver(not hi accuracy model 50). Now U know why HB website is not updated yet cause if it was U would of realized somebody is selling U a 2008 model-old stock on hand @ 2009 pricesHope U got some vaseline:eek: Still same model as no changes made to 997 for 09,but same stuff that folks here have had with buying Yama motors selling made in 2006-07 as 08 & 09 models..ain't right..Quote:
Today, 06:34 PM
dedawg1149
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Originally Posted by mduncan62
Might want to check your information. I just bought at new 788C combo and it came with the 50 channel, as do all the new units. The purpose of this thread was to say that they have all new units out this year that you can purchase from retailers, but HB does not even have them on the HB site yet.
i just order a 997 csi and i called 10 different suppliers and they all said it came with a 16 channel gps .but all the new 700 sereis said they had a 50 channel
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Originally Posted by jaxsprat
This doesn't make any sense to me. The 798 wasn't really being sold in 2008. Since the 798 and 788 are both 2009 models that come with the 50 channel reciever, I'm not sure how you think someone is getting fooled by paying for an old model. If anyone is paying retail like at BassPro to buy one of these units, he's the only one getting fooled and needing Vaseline.
Anyone who would buy at BPS or Cabela's intead of Jandhproducts online store is throwing money out the window.
go online to jnh or three rivers,or hummingbird factory outlet, gps .com ,capelos, bass pro they all say they come with the 16 channel gps.actually the hummingbird factory outlet store had the best price .now once it gets hear it may have the 50 channel gps in it i dont know
You beat me to it! Yep, there are two 50 channel receivers. The high accuracy does not come standard with any model.
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Originally Posted by jaxsprat
Did you actually go to the Jandhproducts website and look at the 798 and 788c combos? They both say 50 channel. Cabelas and Bass pro have it wrong, and you should probably go to the store and look at the box. The box for the 788c that I have list it as precision 50 channel, so no it's not the High Accuracy 50 channel, but it stands to reason that if you're using 50 channels, it is going to be quite a bit more accurate then 16 channels based on the calculations that the unit would do.Quote:
Originally Posted by dedawg1149
If humminbird would update their blasted website, you'd see what actually comes with the units.
If you want me to take a picture of the 788c Box, I'm more then happy to do so.
Sorry DEDAWG, if you are discussing only the 997, then this isn't directed at you. Although JandH for the 997 is like 20.00 cheaper. And that hummingbird factory outlet is not actually affiliated with humminbird as near as I can tell. They have complaints filed against them with the BBB. I checked them out a couple years ago, when I was deciding on the 797.
below is the disclaimer from their site.
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Cabelas: 788C combo with gps 649.00 + tax
Marine Electronics & Fishing Equipment, Buy Humminbird, Raymarine & Garmin Fishfinders, Handheld GPS, Chartplotters, Radios, Radars & Autopilots Online 788C combo with gps. 566.00 no tax. 20 3day shipping.
The unit also comes with the white plastic cover for the unit.
Been looking at HB 787c give me some thought on this unit. trying to get ready before spring.Has anyone used this unit. Have a HB unit now, but need to up grade
My reply was directed to dedawg1149 's statment of his Quote of ordering-- "i just order a 997 csi and i called 10 different suppliers and they all said it came with a 16 channel gps= posted yesterday 6:34pm Thought it was clear & to the point!,never any purchase of a 700 series??Quote:
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Originally Posted by jaxsprat
All 2009 models of the 798,997 & 1197 come with the standard 50 channel receiver(not hi accuracy model 50). Now U know why HB website is not updated yet cause if it was U would of realized somebody is selling U a 2008 model-old stock on hand @ 2009 pricesHope U got some vaseline Still same model as no changes made to 997 for 09,but same stuff that folks here have had with buying Yama motors selling made in 2006-07 as 08 & 09 models..ain't right..
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This doesn't make any sense to me. The 798 wasn't really being sold in 2008. Since the 798 and 788 are both 2009 models that come with the 50 channel reciever, I'm not sure how you think someone is getting fooled by paying for an old model. If anyone is paying retail like at BassPro to buy one of these units, he's the only one getting fooled and needing Vaseline.
Anyone who would buy at BPS or Cabela's intead of Jandhproducts online store is throwing money out the window
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Sorry about the misunderstanding on my part.
well i guess you can keep your Vaseline my unit came in and it had the 50 channel gps that being said everyone still needs the Vaseline so when they buy the high accuracy gps unitQuote:
Originally Posted by jaxsprat
good to hear U got the 50 channel receiver as it will lock on faster than my 16 channel 2007 model.
What a trip:)!
Got a 997 from the Humminbird outlet store a couple of weeks ago and it came with the 50 channel. I was expecting it to come with the 16, but when it came to the house it had a sticker on the box with the Upgraded 50 channel GPS, and once I opened it thats what was in there.
congrats i was thinking the same thingQuote:
Originally Posted by Hog Slab
I am a little early to work on my problem as i allways say if my boat dont float i dont fish and we have 20 inches of ice on the lake. i have a 3 yr. old matrix 97 that wont p.u.a gps reading. i wonder if i shoud try a new antena before sending my unit to be checked out (250 bucks).i wonder if anybody has this problem Ron