Cane Creek Crappie-Napper!

Well I have to admit something to all you Arkansas folks. I came up to your neck of the woods after some of those Cane Creek monsters. I had the best of intentions not to kill them but bring them home alive and stock them in my pond. :D

14 out of 20 made it home alive and 7 were stolen lol. (of the 6 that died 5 were iced and eaten and 1 will be mounted)

I want to say thanks to Chris (CEB), Jerry (LaStumpjumer), and Willy (Lucky) for helping me out and letting my fish their water. Like Jerry said it is a special lake with special fish. I feel honored to have been able to experience it. And don't worry I left 3 crappie in there. One for each of yall. :p

Here is the link to the post...
http://www.crappie.com/crappie/louis...ie-napper.html

~Fishin' Magician~

Very nice read and glad you got some home alive. (And who said the reason LA doesn't fall off into the gulf of mexico is because Arkansas sucks?) :D

Great trip for sure. I often find that the trips or days that are the toughest but yet you succeed are the most gratifying. Cane Creek is definitely a trophy lake. You might not fill the boat with a limit but what you do catch is premium quality. We gonna have to figure out how to get some of that genetic pool here on Greeson.

Sorry to hear someone in need took some of your stuff without asking,you don't suppose they were from another state do ya lol.

I guess most of us have had things taken while out enjoying ourself's, that kind of stuff makes the hairs on my neck standup.I guess they think we do not need it and just take it off ours hands.

A arkie taken things from another arkie is something else but a arkie taken things from a out of stater is sorta on the low end of the totempole or in great need for those things:eek:.

Before anyone gets the wrong idea I'd like to say most people understand what an honor and privilege it is to fish on your great lakes. I spent four days fishing CC and released everything I caught on the spot. Not one fish was harmed. In addition, I met fishermen from several other states that also released everything other than something they intended to have mounted.

It would be easy to justify by saying " he bought the license and fished within the law". True enough however it is my belief that a guest should show respect and restraint when visiting other states. The large majority of Sportsmen will agree.

Thank you for sharing your great state!

Don Stamper

Magician...enjoy dinner and grow some "bigun's"

I personally think that Magician came, had an true crappie fishing dream experience and went hope with a smile on his face and memories that will go with him the remainder of his years. As far as his taking some home...good for him.

I wonder if the Park Rangers ever found the thieves that stoled his stuff?

Percher well said, I could not have said it any better.
The 3 days I fish there was a great time on so great water. And I meet some wonderful People there.

Sam W

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Originally Posted by Percher

It would be easy to justify by saying " he bought the license and fished within the law". True enough however it is my belief that a guest should show respect and restraint when visiting other states. The large majority of Sportsmen will agree.

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Where is cane creek???

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Originally Posted by percher

Before anyone gets the wrong idea I'd like to say most people understand what an honor and privilege it is to fish on your great lakes. I spent four days fishing CC and released everything I caught on the spot. Not one fish was harmed. In addition, I met fishermen from several other states that also released everything other than something they intended to have mounted.

It would be easy to justify by saying " he bought the license and fished within the law". True enough however it is my belief that a guest should show respect and restraint when visiting other states. The large majority of Sportsmen will agree.

Thank you for sharing your great state!

Don Stamper

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I'm not quite sure of the intent of your post, Don. If anyone has gotten the wrong idea, I believe it is you...:confused:

It seems as though you are trying to single out certain people with these comments. Is it your beliefs that people who keep crappie from out-of-state are "unsportsman" or is it that anyone who keeps crappie is "unsportsman"? I've eaten quite a few Louisiana-born crappie, so I guess I'm guilty of both. I believe you should consult "the large majority of Sportsmen" before you make comments of their behalf. Ethically, Markham did nothing wrong from my view...

If Jerry and Willie sez it's OK, then it is Ok by me. One of these days I might want to hit the Magician up for a trip on Caddo.
DP

I have always looked at it like this, it isn't fisherman against other fisherman, it is fisherman against the fish, no matter if I am fishing in state or out of state. I don't see where magician did anything wrong as well and I am as much of a sportsman than anyone on the board. If I take a trip to Vegas, spend a grand and win 10 grand, you can bet that I am not giving it back and chaulking it up as a great experience...

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Originally Posted by CEB

Ethically, Markham did nothing wrong from my view...

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Thanks for having my back Chris. I think by keeping most those old fish alive I treated them well. And I do not feel I was rude to any Arkansas fishermen through my actions or directly... I don't really know why Don is bent out of shape... Oh well I got a saying, "Hate is a loosing battle and only the hater looses". So I am not going to sweat it.

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Originally Posted by DrPepper

One of these days I might want to hit the Magician up for a trip on Caddo.
DP

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There is a standing invitation guys. Just send me a PM and I'll meet yall at the lake! :D

These are the ones I am most familiar with near Shreveport. (*) denotes the more consistent ones...

-Grand Bayou*
-Caddo*
-Claiborne*
-D'arbonne*
-Black Lake
-Bistineau
-Cypress
-Black Bayou

Just pick some Louisiana water I know and I would be more then happy to help you get a head start on finding some fish. Oh and btw you can keep however many you want they will repopulate to the carrying capacity of the lake, simple biology... If you don't believe that look at Caddo. 50+ years getting hammered by fishermen and not only does it still have bigguns it still has numbers... Its all about the habitat. (ok I'll get off my scientific soap box) :D

~Fishin' Magician~

Markham, you are always welcome to fish here, just as everyone makes me feel welcome in La. Hope to see you soon on a lake somewhere.

I once had a cooler stolen with 6 walleyes in it weighing between 7 and 9 lb each. The guy had the stupidity and gall to come back to the same spot a week later and brag to me about it. He didn't know he was braggin to the guy who he stole it from. It wasn't long before he was trottin down the road lucky to have his skin intact. Never saw the guy again.

Personally, I think relocating those fish is an excellent idea as long as he respects the lake where he got em from and from what I have seen he did. If I had a pond that needed stocking I'd be doing the same thing. I'm a little jealous. That pond is going to have some brutes swimming in in it for a while if you can keep people from sneakin them out of there on ya.

I thought I had my cooler of crappie stolen once but was a joke.

I've had,money,cig,'s,spare tires ect. stolen while fishing and it sorta made me mad a wittle.Little did I know what it felt like getting a cooler of fish stolen until it happen I thought.Let me tell you right here and right now I've never been P$ss off like that in my life,I said several cuss words and meet every one of them,I'm so ashamed.They cleaned them and put on ice for a couple of days and gave them back to me.They all have been with me at different times when I have had things stolen out of the truck.Most of the time I would only say will I done my good deed today what did you do?LOL.I know one thing coming home with a wet $ss and hurry gut and someone steals your fish the feeling is worse then someone running off with your wife:D

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Originally Posted by GRIZZ

...Personally, I think relocating those fish is an excellent idea... .

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I don't know how much it is done if at all intrastate-wise, but stocking crappie from other lakes in other states would diversifies the genetic pool. I am aquainted with a crappie tournament angler that has been around awhile and he is convinced that doing so would help many lakes that have stunted fish.

Interstate-wise, the AGFC is trapping crappie from Grand Lake in SE Arkansas for a nursery pond here on Lake Greeson. They will be introduced to it early this coming spring so they will be there when it is time to spawn. Their fry will be cared for in the nursery pond as long as they can and then release them to the lake hopefully after they have grown a bit to reduce mortality. Incidently, we have been putting condos and mega mats down there to help provide cover and habitat. If successful that should potentially put millions of crappie in the lake.

On another note, I have always read that it takes a crappie 3 years to reach 10-inches. I'm sure that is the average. However, last November 2007 the AGFC stock about 200,000 blacknose crappie in Greeson. These fish were hatched in the spring of 2007. It is now December 2008 (just under 2 years) and we are catching ample numbers of blacknose (more than we ever have before) that are 9-inches long. No doubt, these are the crappie that were stocked. One, I am pleased with the survival rate and attribute it directly to the habitat program on this lake. And two, I'm impressed with their growth rate which can also be attributed to the amount of cover we are putting the lake which the bait fish also use. The clouds of threadfin shad I see every day on my sonar is astonishing. If you've ever seen Cane Creek you'll understand why ample cover and excellent food source will grow big crappie.

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Originally Posted by Turtlebait

someone steals your fish the feeling is worse then someone running off with your wife

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Bahahahaha that made me laugh Turtlebait. Funny thing is you are wrong. I got home from this trip to Ar to found just that had happened to my wife whom I have been with since age 16. I am 28. And let me tell you the feeling of the ladder was worse. But I just want to say your comment did make me laugh. Because sometimes its the hardest and worst things in life we have to be able to laugh at or it would all just be too much to handle. (please save all the sorry for your situation comments I am not trying to pull those out of yall, just thought that the irony of him saying that was too much not to comment)

So let um take your fish, but hold tight to that wife. :D

~Fishin' Magician~

FM, It's good to see you still have a sense of humor.

Keep smilin brother, You are gonna be alright.

Between the theft of you wife and the theft of your CC crappie I will bet you are glad to see the year 2008 behind you. Hope you weren't heavily invested in the stock market too, lol.

Heck you can always get another wife,seems like they are a dime a dozen.

I've had three ofem :D ,been single for 6 years now and I dearly dearly enjoy my freedom.If I knew what freedom felt like they would not have been number 2 & 3.Enjoy your freedom it could be a blessing.....

I've seen alot more wives than I have 3 lb. Crappie!:p GOOD FISHING!

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Originally Posted by ceb

I'm not quite sure of the intent of your post, Don. If anyone has gotten the wrong idea, I believe it is you...:confused:

It seems as though you are trying to single out certain people with these comments. Is it your beliefs that people who keep crappie from out-of-state are "unsportsman" or is it that anyone who keeps crappie is "unsportsman"? I've eaten quite a few Louisiana-born crappie, so I guess I'm guilty of both. I believe you should consult "the large majority of Sportsmen" before you make comments of their behalf. Ethically, Markham did nothing wrong from my view...

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No Ceb, Markum and I are friends and I know for sure, without a doubt that he could really care less about what I think or say.

There are always a lot of readers that don't post and don't think like the rest of us. Today there were almost 1500 views on this thread. Very few of them reply to posts and sometimes guys will get the wrong idea. You can bet on it! That was who I was speaking to.

I place a high value on large Crappie. Its a fact. It makes me a little uneasy to see those fish taken away and I don't even live in Arkansas. I admit it. Maybe I'm the only one on the planet that feels that way. Call me crazy or worse.

However there ARE others who feel the same way but my never say so on this forum for obvious reasons. I just don't want 'em to cut MY trailer tires. I'm on their side! Don Stamper

PS, Please send all hate mail directly to me as my email and phone number are on my profle. DS

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Originally Posted by percher

No Ceb, Markum and I are friends and I know for sure, without a doubt that he could really care less about what I think or say.

There are always a lot of readers that don't post and don't think like the rest of us. Today there were almost 1500 views on this thread. Very few of them reply to posts and sometimes guys will get the wrong idea. You can bet on it! That was who I was speaking to.

I place a high value on large Crappie. Its a fact. It makes me a little uneasy to see those fish taken away and I don't even live in Arkansas. I admit it. Maybe I'm the only one on the planet that feels that way. Call me crazy or worse.

However there ARE others who feel the same way but my never say so on this forum for obvious reasons. I just don't want 'em to cut MY trailer tires. I'm on their side! Don Stamper[/COLOR]

PS, Please send all hate mail directly to me as my email and phone number are on my profle. DS

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Hey Don, that's why I questioned your post on this thread...if you wanted to make these statements to the general public, I believe that it could have used its own thread rather than a reply to this one. I do, however, find it hilarious that you are more worried about the feelings of people who do not post rather than the ones that do...:rolleyes:

Like we've all said, it is a special lake with special crappie. And trust me, if it could be fished out...it would've already happened...there is no tellin' how many 2.5lb+ crappie have went under the knife.

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Originally Posted by percher

It makes me a little uneasy to see those fish taken away and I don't even live in Arkansas.

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I'd like to see you tell that to some of the regulars out at the CC boat ramp. Maybe we shouldn't even be allowed to fish it?:D

No hard feelings or hate mail. I understand your frustrations, but you should also understand the tone behind your initial post. Take care Don.

Someone taking a couple dozen crappies to improve his stock isn't a drop in the bucket for the lake. The pressure on a lake like CC is much greater from locals that take fish home for the table. Even that though isn't what effects a lakes population. Lake conditions, management, predators, and foreign species that effect spawning are a much greater threat than fishing pressure. If people would simply harvest average fish and return the monsters to the lake the lakes trophy population and quality spawning results would continue. If I were in control of fish management at CC I would implement a slot limit with one trophy fish over the slot allowed per day unless the population of monsters is just so impressive that they need to be thinned. I seriously doubt there are any lakes that have that problem though.

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Originally Posted by Fishin_Magician

Bahahahaha that made me laugh Turtlebait. Funny thing is you are wrong. I got home from this trip to Ar to found just that had happened to my wife whom I have been with since age 16. I am 28. And let me tell you the feeling of the ladder was worse. But I just want to say your comment did make me laugh. Because sometimes its the hardest and worst things in life we have to be able to laugh at or it would all just be too much to handle. (please save all the sorry for your situation comments I am not trying to pull those out of yall, just thought that the irony of him saying that was too much not to comment)

So let um take your fish, but hold tight to that wife. :D

~Fishin' Magician~

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I know you didn't want sympathy, so let me offer you my wife. She don't like me anymore anyway. Where do you want me to send her?
DP

The only dang thing that irks me about all this is I havent been there to get my three pounder yet. No seriously, if the guy was within the law, properly licensed and all more power to him. The money he spent on the trip ,licenses and all, should go towards making our fishing better with restocking and etc. No it will not replace those three pounders right away but I look at fish as a renewable resource. Its game and fish, and us who have to make sure rhese places arent lost. I will say this though if you arent licensed or come up here disrespecting the place you are not welcome. I dont pretend to speak foranyone but myself as a proud resident of this state for 20 years now. Anyhow thats my two cents worth and last i checked my two cents had lost value!

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Originally Posted by DP

I know you didn't want sympathy, so let me offer you my wife. She don't like me anymore anyway. Where do you want me to send her?
DP

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Bahahahah lol!!!!!! LOL! Good one... But no as of now I am practicing catch and release. :D

~Fishin' Magician~

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Originally Posted by percher

Before anyone gets the wrong idea I'd like to say most people understand what an honor and privilege it is to fish on your great lakes. I spent four days fishing CC and released everything I caught on the spot. Not one fish was harmed. In addition, I met fishermen from several other states that also released everything other than something they intended to have mounted.

It would be easy to justify by saying " he bought the license and fished within the law". True enough however it is my belief that a guest should show respect and restraint when visiting other states. The large majority of Sportsmen will agree.

Thank you for sharing your great state!

Don Stamper

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Don, I don't get you. You make post like this and then come back and make another post on the same thread basically saying "No, that is not what I said":confused:
You seem to talk bad about people who keep fish (especially if it is a limit) but then you keep a limit and release them into the pond by your house. Is what Markham doing NOT THE SAME?!:rolleyes:
If you keep fish and eat them OR if you keep fish and release them in an area that ONLY a select few can catch them is this not close to the same?:confused:
I agree with CEB that I would be more worried about people who actually post than worrying about the ones that don't.
Just my 2 cents.

Hey Markham, my 2 sister in laws are both single again;) And you know you are always welcome at my house if you want to come down and do some salt water fishing.

I don't know Don yet as i am still fairly new, however reading along on almost all the threads and replies, especially this one, I think poor Don has been pistol whipped to the ground for the remarks that he posted. I am not defending him, for if you look, i took Magician's side on this. But...I would really like to just get back to reading the great fishing reports you guys were posting about this lake, which i still haven't got to experience. I was one of the readers that got to see the heated side of this before it was removed and i really think that it has run it's coarse.

I am not trying to be ugly or rude...I am just saying we are all crappie fishermen and that we should just agree to disagree on this event and move on.

Just my 2 cents...:)

I harbor no animosity and I agree. Its all about the fish yall lets go catch some. :D

~Fishin' Magician~

Thank you JJ! Don