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I live in Ohio near many small reservoirs with little cover/structure. Most of these lakes are used as water supply for small villages, so I would have to be sure to locate any intake areas.
Does anyone know of any general Ohio regulations for placing manmade structure or should I contact the Dept. of Nat. Resources?
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Originally Posted by AtticaFish
i was wondering the same thing......i wrote an email to the missouri department of conservation and they answered my question within a week!
i would be sure to find out the regulations regardless.....dont want to be caught with your pants down:)
Slap,
What did the Missouri Fish and Game have to say?
Yeah, pants down with crappie condo in hand probably not good.:o Figured I would find out but might have to get info from 2 places. Most are owned by the city or village and managed by the state.
Anyone have any ideas for making something small enough to chuck in from shore? Big Problem would be to get them to stand vertical and not fall over. I know of 3 reservoirs that no boats are allowed.
I asked a few years ago and I was told it is illegal to put anything into Ohio public waters and you can get a hefty fine for doing so, or for "being caught" doing so. Not sure, if youre gonna take the chance' that I'd do it from the bank. It seems you would have a much better chance of being caught. A lot of guys sink and build stuff in Ohio. I fish East Fork more than anywhere, and with the low water levels right now you can see stake beds all over the place. I don't know anyone who has ever been caught, so I'm not sure what the fine is exactly. You may be able to get permission from a privately owned reservoir, but I doubt it. Especially if it's operated by the state. Guess the biggest question is, how much is that honey hole worth to ya? I nose around on this structure forum all the time to get ideas for stuff that I "would" build if I "could", but I'm not saying I "do". Just be careful where you put it if you do.
Well, I sure can't afford any fines and sure wouldn't want to lose my liscense for any period of time. I seldom see ODNR at the places I go, but that would be the time I do. Will definatley make some calls before I do anything. I know of a few completley private lakes that I can experiment in.
Thanks SpeckWick
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Originally Posted by prchjerker
they said it is legal, and encouraged.....this was on Lake of the Ozarks directly off our dock
also said boat clearance and both full pool and low pool is essential.....could be held accountable if a boat were to strike the underwater structure.....
good thing lake of the ozarks is DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP
I have never ben checked for a liscense or even approached by anyone on the water. Not ODNR, Watercraft, anyone. Been checked for the safety equipment on the boat in the parking lot once, but that's it. I was on EF Sunday, and when we came off the water there was a truck and trailer parked in the ramp lot with the truck bed half full of skids, PVC pipe and blocks. My guess is the other half of the load was on the boat on the lake. That guy will never get caught, but the guy who tries to hide it will every time. Just seems to be the way it works. You would think that if you got with the proper authorities and showed them exactly what you were planning to sink and how you will do it, that they would give you permission. As long as you're not dumping trash or anything harmful in the lake or putting safety hazards in the boat traffic areas. Thing is, I don't think Ohio DNR wants to mess with it at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by AtticaFish
One place I go has a tree-line very close. Maybe I will just mosey on over and look around for some blowdowns.:D Any structure would help, bank is almost barren, nothing but fist size rocks dropping straight down to 15'. There is one bunch of cattails, but it is so thick, you can only fish the edges. Was thinking of going out this spring and pulling or cutting some to make some holes to fish from shore. Early this summer, I pulled 6 out of a thin edge area only 2' square with a cane pole.
Only been checked once for license. My wife did get a call one night that her car was stolen and parked by the reservoir with no one around. Hmm, go figure. Guess the cop never heard of night fishing before!
You know, what if you just happen to be taking a walk along the bank with the laydowns and you stop to take a rest. You sit on one, and it....OH NO....slips down the bank into the water with a block tied to the end of it. Accidents happen....right?
A guy from La. at Toledo Bend Lake told me how he placed plastic 40 gal. drums with different size holes and 5 gal. buckets with a large pvc pipe with holes in it and cemented them to form a christmas tree after you assemble them on the water. He said he formed a square of about a 100 feet and placing gravel in parts of buckets to form beds for bluegill and bream.
It sounds great, so I said I was going to do that also, but I first went to the Corps of Engineer office by the dam and spoke to the lake manager. He told me that any type of plastic inserted into the lake was illegal. Brush, trees, logs and natural materials was okay with him. If I was caught or seem by the game and fish or rangers that I would be fined and arrested for endangering the environment and polluting the lake.
He did make it a point about the plastic or other illegal type materials, but they did encouraged building natural structures for fishing. I am going to stick with the trees, logs and brush, but I do bait area,s also using a container I can retrieve and refill---Burlap sacks work great, the farmers co-op sells them for about a $1.40 a piece--you can cut them and make 2-3 smaller sacks.
This time of year during drawdown I like exploring for old lures and such. While on these walks I always gather brush from along the waters summer pool level and make piles. No blocks or other weight is needed if you use brush that is usually under water anyhow. is already waterlogged and will staywhere you put it. Around here they pull the water down at least 5 ft, so what ever you build will be 5 ft deep come spring. I also do the same on the ice once safe enough. On ice I may wire them together to keep them together as they fall to through the ice. They can't say much if you use brush that is already in the lake.
I've talked to different lake managers here in Arkansas and get varying opinions about structures. All agree that their placement should not cause a boating hazard at low water levels. I, personally don't see a problem with using good clean PVC structures as the Corp of Engineers ,themselves, use them for river channel bouys.
One thing that I hate to see is guys using old hydrolic oil buckets to weight down brushpiles. I, personally, only use icing buckets from bakeries.
I have several PVC structures out but my best "slab" producers have always been good old manmade brushpiles!;)
Hey Speck.
My wife just walked into the room, read what I was reading; and asked
if you could tie me - to one of those heavy weighted brush piles over at EF?
"You guys kinda think she's tired of me going fishing, or some'thin?"
Be safe all!
i fish a corps of engineers lake in eastern ky and have talked to them about putting out crappie structure. the woman i talked to was the head honcho for the county where i fish. she not only liked the idea of bamboo condos she gave me a permit to place structure for a year just in case the dnr caught me dropping the stuff in the lake. i call her at the beginning of each year and she sends me another permit.
I told my fishing partner if I fall in during one of our winter trip on EF to mark the spot and come back and fish it later. Maybe we could do the same with you?:DQuote:
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And I know my wife thinks the same of me.
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I've used them after washing clean with hot soapy water.;)