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I want everyone's opinion!
What is your opinion on these HHO (Brown Gas) add on kit that they are advertizing all over the net right now. They claim to boost HP & increase MPG.
There was a piece on the local news about it last night and Fox did a piece on it a short time back.
I know that electronics is your expertise and form what I can gather it takes electricity to convert the water to this HHO.
What are your thoughts? :confused:
Terry, I'm not CanePole, but my opinion is they are 100%, unadulterated male bovine excrement.
Man how do they get away with advertising that stuff! It's all over the net! :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by CatFan
terry,
saw a bit on the news this week about these. it's a skam
My thoughts(no am not as smart as cane on electronics) If any of that crap was any good I would think that Ford, General motors would buy that company up in 30 seconds so they could put it on their cars & be the first to get 40-50mpg on all models etc. Heck nobody would be out fishing they would all be standing in line with $$ in hand to buy car.
I actually just recently added an HHO generator to my truck. I made the generator & bubbler myself, and have about $50 in them. I have an old Chevy 1/2 ton 4X4 with a new 350 motor. Fuel mileage at best was 12 MPG. I don't drive much, so I haven't even burned but about 1/2 tank of gas since installing the generator. From what I've seen, I haven't noticed any dramatic increase in MPG, but will update once I empty the tank & fill-up next. lol, may be a couple more weeks though.
I believe the theory holds some merit.....just needs some R&D done on it. Can't understand why the "powers that be" haven't done it before now. Boeing I think built a small plane that flies strictly on HHO, and I believe it was Honda who just introduced a 100% HHO car.
Keep us abreast of how it's do'n. I've been reading up on it and am interrested in the concept. I really like to see something like this work so we can thumb our noses at the oil countries! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by FishTrap
Too many of the "Powers that Be" have too much money invested in big oil and it would cost them too much to look into it.Quote:
Originally Posted by FishTrap
Whiskers- Will do, I have several people wanting to know as well. I'd seen many people on the internet claim it works (who weren't trying to sell anything), and I saw several who said it didn't. Well, not knowing anyone personally who had tried it....then the only way I'd know for sure was to try myself.
Wannabe-lol.....you read my mind
There is no such thing as HHO. It's a made-up idea by the promoters of these devices. When liberated from water, hydrogen quickly bonds with another hydrogen atom forming H2, and oxygen quickly bonds to another oxygen atom forming O2.
Honda introduced a hydrogen car, which burns hydrogen.
I agree. No such thing as HHO. Just a sales gimmick name. Truth be known, it takes more energy (with todays technology) to separate (water) H/2 and O than the energy gained from the separation. MHOAO.Quote:
Originally Posted by CatFan
Personally makes no difference to me what you want to call it, or how it works. Reason I'm trying it is to see IF it works. I had my generator on the bench, producing gas. I put the discharge hose into a tub of water, as it bubbled to the top, I could ignite it & every bubble popped like a firecracker. I saw it & heard it with my own eyes & ears, and showed others. I'm not here do defend, deny, or argue about the whole process. I'm not a chemist & don't know if anyone eles here is or not. I'm trying it because I can't decide who to believe....but I know I can believe my own results......positive or negative (no pun intended, lol)
What you are describing is exactly how it should work. You are producing hydrogen gas by electrolysis of water. Very common and well known reaction. It would be feasible for powering an engine except it takes more energy to power the system than you can produce by burning the gas. no matter what you do, operating such a system will always reduce your fuel mileage. Either that or Isaac Newton didn't understand physics.Quote:
Originally Posted by FishTrap
Glad to see people experimenting with stuff. It is good to learn things. The Marine Doctor has a video on this process and wrote a result report. I believe he had negative results.
My thoughts on this is that folks want it to work so bad that they modify driving habits to make claims of success.
Good luck.
I figured with all the mixed results I've read, there's only 1 way to know for sure....to give it a try. I'm giving it less than 50% odds of improving my MPG, but atleast I'll have 1st hand information ;)
I've not been able to understand 1 thing though, and I've read it elsewhere other than the above comments. If my engine is running, and spinning the alternator anyway, how does powering my generator cost more power? To me, that's like saying driving with your lights, radio and heater on cost mileage. Air conditioner I understand, it's a separate compressor, and isn't a "requirement" like an alternator.