lacquer or acrylic paint

I am making some pinkie style hair jigs 1/16 oz. from a collins mold, and am trying to decide what kind of paint to use. Vinyl liquid paint gives exellent results, but the shelf life is pretty short. Have used powder alot too, but I think I can get a better look by using a liquid paint on this tied jig, and dip it down till it covers the thread behind the head, thus giving a cleaner look. My question is, have any of you used lurecoat by dick nite? It's a laquer paint I think. Also, has anyone used the liquid paint that barlows sells, by the name, tamiya, or something like that? It also comes in a spray can, which would cause me to have to tape up the hooks before spraying. I really like the powder paints, but they are not as vibrant as a liquid, in some colors. anyone have any input?

I use powder paint on most jigs, but as soon as I get my Roadrunners I will paint them with Vinyl and plan on using a combo of air brush and by hand with a regular type brush. Since they all will have to be painted with white first that is what I plan on air brushing.

Don't want to need to take the Roadrunners apart to paint them.

Skip

Skip
just wrap the swivel and blade in alum. foil and paint as normal in powder paint. works great just painted some roadrunners last week that way and it was much easier than brushing.

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Originally Posted by Yodibuzz

Skip
just wrap the swivel and blade in alum. foil and paint as normal in powder paint. works great just painted some roadrunners last week that way and it was much easier than brushing.

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Now that is a good idea and probably wish I had heard that before I bought $100+ of vinyl paint, LOL! Not to mention the darn air brush I also bought. Heck I am over $200 into this darn vinyl thing and not painted a Roadrunner yet. I am still waiting on Blakemore to deliver my 1/32 and 1/16 heads. I guess if I sell all 1000 the paint will pay for it self, LOL!

I am not sure with the bake cure on the powder it is not just as fast using the vinyl, but I am going to try both. One thing I do like about the vinyl is how tough it is. I think it stays on better than powder paint that has been cured proper. I have so much powder I can't stop using it either and will stay with that for my jigs for sure. I have 7 colors in pound containers and about 6 in 1/4 pound containers, not to mention the others I have the small 2 oz. jars in too. I am paint poor!

People always say how cheap it is to do this and I suppose it can be if you really limit what you buy material wise, but I have a ton of money in materials.
A lot of it though is fly tying stuff, but I also can make most any thing out of so many different materials that I can always come up with new looking jigs with new colors and flashy stuff.

Lately I have been experimenting more and more with dubbed bodies and I like them a lot because they look more buggy and I feel the fish like that.

Thanks again,
Skip

skiptomylu, Not to change the paint subject, but the dubbed bodies can be deadly. I used to fish a fly I found on google or yahoo, called the jon's generic fly. It has schlappen feather tail, and a black dubbed body, over a lead wire wrapped shank, on a 12 or 10 hook. The thread used is red, to give it a little red head. Throw it out and let it sink, then stitch the line back an inch at a time. I have caught everything on that thing, crappie love it. My point I was getting to, is you ought to be able to simulate that fly, with a small jighead. Maybe make a thin collar of red thread behind the black head. Hows that for highjackin yer own thread? lol Just a thought. I seem to remember the things that caught fish well. And the guy that came up with it, is seen holding up some nice shellcrackers too. hmmm.

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skiptomylu, Not to change the paint subject, but the dubbed bodies can be deadly. I used to fish a fly I found on google or yahoo, called the jon's generic fly. It has schlappen feather tail, and a black dubbed body, over a lead wire wrapped shank, on a 12 or 10 hook. The thread used is red, to give it a little red head. Throw it out and let it sink, then stitch the line back an inch at a time. I have caught everything on that thing, crappie love it. My point I was getting to, is you ought to be able to simulate that fly, with a small jighead. Maybe make a thin collar of red thread behind the black head. Hows that for highjackin yer own thread? lol Just a thought. I seem to remember the things that caught fish well. And the guy that came up with it, is seen holding up some nice shellcrackers too. hmmm.

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As for the red thing, I saw a fly the other day on a fly tying board that has really peaked my interest and it has a real neat way of putting some red int the fly.

Check out this from Fly Anglers OnLine...
Attachment 19439

Love this fly and planning on tying some. How do you like the use of red in this? Also thinking of some small jigs like this, kind of.

Skip

Skip, that's a good lookin fly, and the red eyes really set it off. gonna check that site and see how it's tied. The other fly that really produced for me, on the crappies and bream was called the green weenie. lol no kidding It was tied with medium chartruese chenille on a #10 streamer hook. It was a mustad hook about 3/4 inch long. You tie a 4 inch piece of chenille in at the rear of the shank and make a 1/4 inch loop for a tail and secure the chenille the second time in the same spot, then you wrap toward the eye, and make your head with black thread. It simply looks like a one inch chartruese worm, and it will sink slow. I use one inch strips for a retrieve. For crappie I tie it on a chartruese 1/32 ball jighead with no collar,and chartruese thread. It sinks down in deeper water, and I use one inch strip retrieve. When the line looks like it's hesitated while your stripping, set the hook. One trick I use is to take the loop tail and twist it tight, this makes it straight like a stick. you can look this fly up on the web, thats where I found it. Green Weenie, is awsome on crappie, and it needs trying on a 1/64 head I think.

Crappie version of the Green Weenie? maybe??



http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...reenWeenie.jpg

Len, Thats real good! wet your fingers and twist that tail up pretty tight, while pully it straight back. The only difference between yours and mine, is that I didn't put eyes on them. They make a green chartruese chenille, and a hot yellow chartruese chenille. Both of them work. Also have painted the heads with both shades of chartruese, It's all good. And I think it holds scent well too. Have you fished them before, or is that your first tie? When casting these things, the cast needs to be different I think. If you ever hit your rod tip with the jighead while casting, it can damage the rod. Casting sidearm, or slightly elevated sidearm seems to work for me, and keeps the thing from hitting me in the back or head. It's best to fish it fairly close to you, in order to keep an eye on your line where it sinks downward out of sight.

Thanks for the information Redear.I saw your post and looked up the Green Weenie and experimented with it.I have not tried it yet.

skip,

with as much as Blakemore is charging it's almost cheaper to make your own roadrunners. I Have the Do It mold that makes about 5 sizes and I use plain Testors model paint to paint them and then clear coat with a two part epoxy from Jann's Netcraft.

If you really want the powder check out and register on Tackleunderground Home and theirs a big thread in there under wire baits about powdercoating road runner heads.

I've tried the vinyl paint and while ok to me, the only problem I've ever seen is where if it gets too hot it can get soft, and DON"T use plastics on it unless you epoxy coat it. Unless they've changed the formula for it, it will react with plastic grub bodies.

Fatman