Powder paint questions

Bought a fluid bed from TJ's Tackle and it works nicely except with the colors black and white. I have new Pro-Tec paint but these colors seem to be considerably heavier than the others I use. Can't get the "boiling" effect with these colors. Also after using these colors, when curing the jigs in oven as Pro-Tec recommends at 350 for 20 min. I am getting some excess paint running which is creating a few "cone head" jigs. Need a way to stand these jigs up when curing so the excess runs down the hook and not to tip of head. This is not happening with all jigs in these colors but when I get a run it will most likely be with these colors. My theory is that not being able to achieve the boiling effect in the fluid bed the color is going on thicker and then on some creating a run upon curing due to the thick coat of paint. Are others having this problem and what have you done to overcome it? Thanks

Black will get more on the head than you can use so make sure you have the cup in very well so it will fluff the paint. I don't have any trouble with the nipple heads. He does sell some things to stand the heads up by the hook when in the oven, but at a cost that is too much for doing many. It's not his fault, they are just well made and not cheap.

BTW the heat on black is 400 degrees for 15 min. and I think White if 350 for 20 min. Pearl is even lower temp.

Skip

When you get some air coming though the paint, pick up the system and gently shake in a circle. This should help. I have noticed my black and white are a little thicker. Might be the humidity. Every color has its own temp. to paint, to paint with ease. The flufflier the paint the better. Also shorten the time the jigs are in the paint.

TT

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Originally Posted by yellowmart

Bought a fluid bed from TJ's Tackle and it works nicely except with the colors black and white. I have new ProTec paint but these colors seem to be considerably heavier than the others I use. Can't get the "boiling" effect with these colors. Also after using these colors, when curing the jigs in oven as ProTec recommends at 350 for 20 min. I am getting some excess paint running which is creating a few "cone head" jigs. Need a way to stand these jigs up when curing so the excess runs down the hook and not to tip of head. This is not happening with all jigs in these colors but when I get a run it will most likely be with these colors. My theory is that not being able to achieve the boiling effect in the fluid bed the color is going on thicker and then on some creating a run upon curing due to the thick coat of paint. Are others having this problem and what have you done to overcome it? Thanks

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Boy, I have had the same problem while painting my Jigs. I found out after heating the lead. I dip jig into Powder and if I leave it in to long it leaves more Powder on jig. When I precook at 350 degrees like it recommends on bottle it tends to run down on head and leave a waud on the head. I heat my heads with a small propane bottle with a blow torch assembled onto tank. If you heat lead to much the lead will melt. When lead looks a little shiny I dip into powder, in and out quickly. I hang on a card board box and let dry and cool down. When I get ready to cook I go threw each one clearing the eye. If you don't you will have problems clearing the eye to fish it. I cure in oven hanging bye hooks inside oven on racks. Put a flat pan under hooks in oven so if there to much power on lead and it drips off onto flat pan with aluminum foil inside cookie pan. The paint gets very hard and can use over and over again until you loose it. If jig has a nose on it I file it off..

I find an alcohol burner is best because it's not so hot you can't count it down. Just work out how long to leave it in the flame and dip it in. I also keep tooth picks handy and as soon as it comes out of the paint I stick it through the eye to remove any extra paint. If by chance it closes the eye again when baking it I just heat my bodkin red hot and stick it through the eye and it will melt the paint.

Skip

I suggest quit using powder paint... JMHO.... Cant get great consistency with it...:confused::confused:

Look at the jig heads that my buddy makes for my jigs... He does a bang up job...:D

I agree with skip, dont get your jigs to hot. the hotter you get them before you dip them the more powder will get on the head. most colors dont take much to cover the head. so less heat means less powder and that will solve your problem. I coat 1000 or more a week and it took some getting use to how much to pre heat the jig. you can always reheat and add more powder after your first bake if it doent turn out the way you want but get to much on and you cant go back.

I have to turn the air up higher on my black. Then I head the heads with a heat guy. Then hole the jig by the eye with Hemostats that way theres no paint on the eye also.
And doing this theres no excess powder on then.
Also as for not using powder paint. Shoot I like it. Use a jig and it will not beat the paint off of them.
Pete

Ok guys your gonna get a laugh out of this one but try it.If you in a high humity area turn the jar of paint upside down when your not using it,dont know why but it makes it flow better in the fluid bed.CSI gave me that pointer about a year ago.

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Originally Posted by Ken Jones

Boy, I have had the same problem while painting my Jigs. I found out after heating the lead. I dip jig into Powder and if I leave it in to long it leaves more Powder on jig. When I precook at 350 degrees like it recommends on bottle it tends to run down on head and leave a waud on the head. I heat my heads with a small propane bottle with a blow torch assembled onto tank. If you heat lead to much the lead will melt. When lead looks a little shiny I dip into powder, in and out quickly. I hang on a card board box and let dry and cool down. When I get ready to cook I go threw each one clearing the eye. If you don't you will have problems clearing the eye to fish it. I cure in oven hanging bye hooks inside oven on racks. Put a flat pan under hooks in oven so if there to much power on lead and it drips off onto flat pan with aluminum foil inside cookie pan. The paint gets very hard and can use over and over again until you loose it. If jig has a nose on it I file it off..

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For once, a post from this guy I agree with. I do the same thing.

I heat my jigs with a propane torch and use a fluid bed also. The real key is to swish the jig quickly thru the powder. I don't seem to have a problem with the black but I do with the white. I only make jigs for myself, so for the white I dip straight into the jar and make sure I shake the jar every other jig. Havn't had a problem this way. As for curing the jigs, I bought a few bread pans that would fit inside my curing oven and JB welded some threaded rods to hang the jigs. While one pan is curing I am loading another getting ready to cure. I can hang 3 to 4 dozen per pan depending on jig size.