I Am Wanting To Put Some Structure On A Flat That Is 3 To 4 Ft Deep What Is Something That Would Work In That Shallow Of Water.
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I Am Wanting To Put Some Structure On A Flat That Is 3 To 4 Ft Deep What Is Something That Would Work In That Shallow Of Water.
Just wade out and punch some stacks in... Lots of them
Lay down christmas trees..... 3 - 4 ft of water you aint got much to work with....:(
Sinking hardwood pallets is good . But short hardwood or cedar stakes drove in the bottom are easy.This stakebed structure lasts a long time and hang ups are fewer. You can pull jigs through verticle stakes without hanging. Brush that is horizontal are hook magnets . The stakes need no weights and can easily be driven in under ther surface or left above if you wish.;)
Bamboo run threw a cement block like some of the guys here use would work. Or throw a dead fall hard wood tree in there. You might snag a few branches but if you use a long rod you should be able to work your jig around with few snags. I like the stake Idea this was just in addition.
Pvc Pipe Trees On There Sides Work Pretty Good And They Dont Hang Up Your Jigs. Just Drill A 4 Or 5 Holes To Make Them In A Cross Pattern So That They Will Stand Up Off The Bottom. Put A 8" Block On A 3 Or 4 " Pipe With 3/4" Cross Pipes For Limbs. Slide The Block On Before You Put Your Cross Limbs Through And The Block Will Hold It Down.
Stakes sounds like the way to go. But what about a milk crate with bamboo run thru it with wieght in it to hold it down? Or see this.
http://www.actionfishingtrips.com/habitat.htm
Bout half way down. Mega Mats.
I was thinking about sinking some stuff, and or making stake beds etc. Then I bought a 797. 1 pass through a cove I was thinking about adding some structure in, I realized there was already plenty in there. Problem Solved.
Here's the proof. Not saying that adding your own stuff isn't good, but I won't be spending money on it as long as side-imaging exists.
take a 20 foot tree, 4-5 inches in diameter and lay it down. cut off every limb that sticks up above your waist, tie 2 concrete blocks to it and drag it in until it is under water.
We have lots of freeloaders here too. That is what we call guys that never put out any but just fish what we labor to build.:rolleyes: Our natural structure is about gone and we spend our time and money to build a spot. Nothing worse than the same guys who refused to help always fishing those spots we built.:(Quote:
Originally Posted by mduncan62
I'll agree 100%,Even had a fellow yesterday wanting free GPS cord's-.Quote:
Originally Posted by NIMROD
I don't mind sharing with fishermen willing to help build. We usually have them help build 5 and give them 5 more coordinates. We have turned down folks that instead of a guide trip wanted to buy our coordinates.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by bentpole
If it's a lake that you own, then you have a right to complain. If it's public water, you don't have anything to say. With side imaging, anyone can find "your structure" which at the point when you drop it in the lake is "everyone's" structure. This argument seems to come up periodically.
I've put out my fair share of PVC structures on Truman. Did I ever think that I own it, or would I get mad if people were fishing it, NO.
Nimrod, do you threaten people who found your stuff and fish it, or bully them off of the spot? People have to get over that mentality.
Ask canepole about it. He's even got a rangefinder so he can pinpoint where you are. :)
kinda sounds like the difference between a wife and a girlfriend....or maybe if you knew she was with someone else or you just happened to find her. If I see someone on one of MY hard earned places, TWICE, it becomes an eating place and I will burn it every time I'm near it. I refuse to enjoy seeing someone else on top of my girlfr,,,,I mean brushpile. on the other hand, I do find a lot of stuff that I'm sure wasn't grown there. It all evens out.
maybe i am wrong but... anything you or i put in any public lake is FAIR GAME fella. if you sink a brushpile in your own swimming pool i promise i won't fish it!!! MAN... sometimes you hear something and it just strikes a nerve. bottom line is that its public knowledge after you drop it , thats the price you pay for trying to have your own honey holes.i wish it were that easy here in virginia to just load up the boat with pvc,christmas trees,cinderblocks, and bamboo. just my two cents but if i see you fishin' and catching in the middle of the lake i will wait for you to leave , find and mark your spot and return next fishing trip to fish the spot if its seasonally correct. i apologize for being brash because i am sure i probably took the last post the wrong way .... and i'm a nobody here on this board.
david
Well we have folks that have been offered the chance to help build to turn us down. Then move in and take over what we put in. It just rubs us the wrong way even thought we can't do much about it. When it gets to where they follow and go as far as to mark your spots. Have been know to go out to fish a spot and find a jug tied there and a boat on it every morning. About like someone following you to your deer stand and trying to get there first the next morning.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by dav803
I Had Some Fellows Always Looking For My Brush. So I Started Marking Them With Coke Bottles On A String For Them. Then After A Couple Of Weeks I Move The Bottle About 20 Yards. I Found That If They Are To Lazy To Build Their Own Brush Then They Are To Lazy To Hunt Around For The Brush. They Just Keep Fishing Around The Bottle That They Think Is Marking The Spot. Lol Doesnt Always Work But A Lot Of The Time It Does.
i laughed for quite a while after reading the coke bottle thing!!!! i didn't mean to offend just felt like adding my 2 cents. you guys are verry correct about how much time and effort it takes to construct and place these attractors. people who fish around a bootle just because remind me of the little green guys on fraggle rock!! cool trick .i can understand if you have a line on the water just to fish one brushpile!! i have to say thanks to all you guys for contributing here on this board because it is a huge help and a wealth of information and great ideas.
thanks
david
Been there and done that. We have moved the bottles and even moved the brush before.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by bigfish5
Anybody who burns a spot, whatever that means, is probably willing to do more. Get over it. Nobody has to help you put structure in to have the right to find yours and fish it. I'm not sure where this mentality comes from, but it's backwards.
Are you trying to improve the habitat for the crappie, so they can grow bigger, or are you trying to have your own private spot that you think you Own a deed to because you spent your time putting it out. You can pop bottle whatever you want, and anybody with A humminbird SI unit will laugh at you while they are fishing your structure.
Nice technique too Bigfish. Why don't you trash up the lake while your at it. And hopefully it's one of the small bottle that some people won't see, and the string will get into someone's prop and do a couple hundred dollars damage. You seem like a guy that's really looking out for his fellow man. Hat's off to you big guy.
Every time this comes up I'm really surprised at the calibur of the people who'll go to any length to stop people from fishing the crap they drop in. Last year people were talking about carrying guns.
I'd love to watch a guy pull up his brush pile and move it. Great idea.
Buy some land, put a pond on it, and fill the pond in with brush. Then it's yours. If you can't do that, carry a box of tissue in your boat.
Well I have put some out and plan on putting more out next week. My thought is you don't own it but some people are looking for a free ride and will take more then their share every chance they get and plus let the country side know about these hotspots, which will deplete the bigger crappie quicker. Some people will respect what you have done and fish it only to catch a mess to eat. As for them high dollar sonars, not many crappie fishermen have them and most don't have any electronics at all and if you find the titanic let us know! Just teasing. As for marking them I always take my floats home.
TT
the first step to getting help is to admit you have a problem......bow your head and repeat after me,,
I am a failure as a man. I have fished my whole life and have to resort to stealing other mens places, because I couldn't find my own fish if they were swimming in a bucket. Please forgive me, because I wasn't raised properly and just don't know any better..take me fishing and show me what I need to know to feed all the neighbors and then I can feel better about myself.
If this makes you laugh,,,then you know exactly the context of it.
if it makes you angry,,,,,, then there is probably just a little sliver of truth in it.
I personally would,,,,,,ummm,,,,,,never put anything in the lake and expect to be able to find it again and fish it. so, I don't have to worry about it. I would expect them to be found by you as soon as you saw me wandering around looking for a standing tree to tie up to anyway. you should all be ashamed for not leaving them sticking out of the water,so people like me wouldn't have search for them or beg for coordinates,,, what is a gsp anyway?
for those of you that are smiling,,,,,,I know,,,I just couldn't help it.,,,I had to
for the others,,,,that IS how we feel,,,just thought you should know
So I am riding down the lake. I see a brush pile on my fish finder. I am supposed to wait to fish it till its rightful owner shows up and gives me permission to fish it or offers me to let him help him make more? If I find it I am gonna fish it.
By the same token, I think that I pizzed two guys off the other day. They found one of THE LAKE'S new bamboo condos that I put in. I asked if they had caught any fish off of it. They said no. I told them that it didn't surprise me, I just put in two days ago. They packed in an left.
What was this thread about anyway, I have already forgot?
It was about putting something in shallow water to catch fish. I have never used stakes, but I noticed a picture in the latest issue of crappie and the stakes were really close together. lets say I wanted one, maybe 3x3 feet. would a dozen stakes be better than 50? thats what the picture looked like.
check out our hedge hog at j and j habitat, not trying to sell you anything but it is a horizontal attractor that works well in shallow water. you can make your own.
John Brower
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Originally Posted by mduncan62
I have heard of these boys on nimrod threating to move there brush piles and raising cane and I have watched them fish all kinds of other peoples stuff along with all the natural structure. You heard of people that are scared to death somebody else is going to catch a limit, These are them folks,
I've started down the bank of a cove when the fish were in the brush and have this guy fly to the other side so he could meet me in the end of the cove, Twice one day, They spend more time worrying about what everbody else is doing than doing there on thing.
We also have a bunch of fish hoggs that try to fish out the lake keeping everything they catch at the lake.:rolleyes:
Iam new to this area,can anyone give me an idea of how to fish lake bisineau st park for crappie instead of yo' yo's
thank you
redneck369
You might have better feed back on your state's forum. Good luck and hopefully great fishing.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by redneck369
I think this is being taken out of context by some guys. I don't THINK these guys TRULY believe they have the exclusive right to fish the stuff they drop for all time
. I think they just feel a bit bummed when they pull up to a hole they spent sweat and money to put out and someone else is fishing it. Nothing more, just like "Aw man....dang!" And I don't blame them.
Just like someone else stated earlier but it wasn't talked about enough. There are public deer woods all over. What if you built a ground blind, (most WMA's wont let you keep a real stand in a tree) spent COUNTLESS hours scouting to make it in the right spot then went and built it out of natural vegetation. You plan on hunting it one of the few days you have off work. You drive out there, sneak to the stand only to find some guy sitting in it. You talk to him and he says, "yeah, I stumbled on this thing while flying over the wma in my helicopter that has this new technology that thru infared can detect disturbed brush and vegetation!" "I figured some guy built it and had done his homework so I said, why bother doing it myself!" "Yep, got in here early and beat the sapsucker to it!!"
I really don't see the difference. The guy who built it will surely not say "Wow, infared huh? You are so cool! Maybe I'll get one someday! Oh well, enjoy the blind, good luck and hey, I installed a makeshift roof from palmettos if it starts to rain, it's behind the blind.....just so ya know!"
Heck no! He's GONNA be disappointed. So would you. I think this finders keepers rule may be overstretching common courtesy and ethics a bit.
Just my thoughts.
I put in brush and If I find someone else's, I'll fish it too. That cat that put it in has probably found some of mine because We know where to put them in and use the same areas and have the same thinking. It is public water and If some stranger was good enough to find My spot then He is good enough to fish it. The same for Me. It's all fair game once it sinks out of site. I don't like it When I see someone else on my spot because I'm afraid He'll tell everyone but that is part of it and no need to get ugly about it. No need to go crowd the spot either. Let Him fish it. Go put out more. Oh yeah, If you see people spider rigging, they have probably hung up in your spot and know about it anyway. CF
some people will never understand the difference between what you can do and what you should do. There is nothing better than taking the time to locate a good area, place brush, and prove yourself right.
I don't think its so much the ownership problem but an issue with attitude. Maybe its the way it was stated but i thought the same thing.
"I was going to put some stuff in the shallow water but I found a bunch of someone elses with my SI so why bother" To this I say if you were going to put some in why not do that elsewhere?? maybe he did and just didn't state it.
I have no problem going to my home lake and seeing someone fishing an area then after they leave going to take a look. If I find some structure I fish it or mark it and try the next trip. The reason I have no problem with fishing that spot that maybe the guy just left put in is:
1) Its a public lake
2) I add structure myself
3) I help the state with their structure drops
Do I get pizzed when someone is on "my" brush - no - disappointed - yes if I was planning on fishing it at that time. That's why I have several of "my" brush sets in the lake.
I think it boils down to character or lack there of..if you find the structure on your own its fair game. If I watched someone putting in structure, then I fish that structure, then I am lacking in character in my opinion. And I know its not going to happen with me.
When someone wins 3 grand off one of your piles and he is local it will piss a guy off. my thoughts are more directed towards the guys that spend alot of time at the lake but dont put in the work.
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Originally Posted by crappiehuntr
BINGO WELL SAID THANK YOU.;)
My biggest gripe is when I pull off a place and the genius goes right over there or sits there rubber necking me. I have always said I wouldn't stop to look at a place if I had seen a boat there, but I am really sick of it happening to me. I would rather fish the places I have found on my own.....however it got there.