Help from bluegill/crappie flyfisherman part 2

Gentlemen,

Thank you for your help on the flyline in my other post. I now have a second question. I'd like to keep things simple and plan on keeping just a few topwater and a few sinking lures related to flyfishing.

I'd like to get suggestions for 5 each "old standbys" that you know have produced fish for years and years for topwater for bluegill.

I'd also like to get suggestions for 5 each "old standbys" sinking flies that you know have produced fish for years and years for crappie.

I know I'll be getting a couple cork spiders with the rubber legs, as I've had great success with those as a kid. I'm looking for things like "black gnat" or "wooly bugger" my father suggested as good flies.

Thank you again,

Dave

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Originally Posted by DaveInGA

Gentlemen,

Thank you for your help on the flyline in my other post. I now have a second question. I'd like to keep things simple and plan on keeping just a few topwater and a few sinking lures related to flyfishing.

I'd like to get suggestions for 5 each "old standbys" that you know have produced fish for years and years for topwater for bluegill.

I'd also like to get suggestions for 5 each "old standbys" sinking flies that you know have produced fish for years and years for crappie.

I know I'll be getting a couple cork spiders with the rubber legs, as I've had great success with those as a kid. I'm looking for things like "black gnat" or "wooly bugger" my father suggested as good flies.

Thank you again,

Dave

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A small version of the Clouser is an all around standby. If a fish is hungry, he will eat this or a wolly bugger. ME, I'd start with a clouser for an all around fly. Just my opinion. Nothing wrong with a jig fly either in 1/80 ounce.

Sneaky Petes in Chart. for top water and wooly buggers for sinking.
Thats what I take when I do not want to carry a lot.

Here's a great sinking fly:

http://www.warmwaterflytyer.com/patterns6.asp?page=13

Many of the traditional trout patterns like the gold-ribbed hare's ear or the pheasant tail nymph also work well. If it's small and "buggy", a bluegill will eat it.

If you will be buying flies (if you don't tie flies), White Spongy foam spiders, Pan pop or Dixie Devil (yellow chartreuse) popper, Round Dinnie, a few small (size 12) dry flies, and small pencil poppers would be my picks if I were buying surface bream flies. For subsurface, Hare's Ear Nymph size 10, Pheasant Tail Nymph, Zug Bug or Prince Nymph, Damsel nymph, black Woolly Buggers small (size 8 and 10), and a good assortment of standard classic wet flies in size 10 and smaller (like the Black Gnat, McGinty, Yellow Miller, etc.) if I were buying subsurface bream flies.

For Specks I like three flies so far that work well for me. The size 10 Black Gnat and the McGinty wet flies, and the Crappie Candy size 8 (yellow chartreuse and fluorescent green). I doubt that stores will stock the Crappie Candy but a Clouser Minnow with beadchain eyes is a close relative that might work just as good.

Do these flies work?
Black Gnat
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McGinty
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Crappie Candy
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Buffy I agree about the sneaky pete,just about the only topwater bug i use
White or chartreuse just trim the legs a little not much don't want stubs

Dixieangler covered it about as well as you can. I am sure you will find there is not one particular fly that works all the time. In fly-fishing it is called, match the hatch. Study the insects that hatch in the lakes you fish, and then match the fly to the insect. Good luck

So what insect looks like a white popper or chartruese sneaky pete?
I've been wondering about a lot of flyfishing stuff, match the hatch, delicate presentation. Heck when the bream are hitting topwater smacking a bug on the water hard just seems to make them hit it harder. Then again I rarley do things the way they are 'supposed' to be done. I still catch fish and have a good time doing it. Anyone else catch a catfish on a popping bug?

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Originally Posted by Buffy

So what insect looks like a white popper or chartruese sneaky pete?

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Think attractor fly :). Could be a frog or a grasshopper for instance.

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Anyone else catch a catfish on a popping bug?

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No, but I've caught them on a black Woolly Bugger :D.

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Buffy I agree about the sneaky pete,just about the only topwater bug i use
White or chartreuse just trim the legs a little not much don't want stubs

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ithe sneaky pete listed as a top /top water,and i agree i tie this fly for top water in #6 up to #2 ,works well for gills and bass. it is the only top water i use with a solid body.
the great thing about the old pete is it's head shape,it has little drag and is great for roll casting.
the clouser i agree ,in a #8 or #6 is my best producer ,and an easy,and quick fly to tie.

I really like gurglers and have had great success on them for gills on the surface. The bass like em too. Alot of trout flies work well for bluegills too. Like a pheasant tail nymph.

You only need two flies to catch bluegills on a consistent basis in the south, in my opinion. The breamkiller in either black, brown or green and the black gnat...