I GOT TWO QUESTIONS

I'm so bored at work. Our wonderful economy is about to put us out of business.
!st question. In some of Richard Gene's older vids, he uses a gold/char handtie in muddy water. I then see him using pink/wht & red/wht. I never read of CDC guys using gold in muddy water. I understand the other two. Just wondered if y'all used gold?
2nd question. I don't know his name but I watch him on YT called "seekers of men." No doubt a true gentleman. He shows rigging a 1/8 jig head with BGBS weedless by pushing the hook back into the body of the jig. Kind of like bass fishing and skin hooking a worm. Do any of y'all rig that way for vertical jigging in brush?

I've used gold/chartreuse in muddy water and at times it does work good. I've never tried rigging the way you mentioned though.

As to your first question. Yes I have used Gold in my jigs (hand ties), but I would say the water was more a stained color. Not too much muddy water around here. As far as question 2, I can't say as I have. Best of luck.

Gold glitter works really well in dirty water

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Gold glitter works really well in dirty water

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Yep. I made my version of grenada gold crappie flukes & they got bit pretty good in heavy stained water & especially when the sun was shining.

I use gold/chartreuse hand tie jigs. I use gold glitter CB Sliders, and gold glitter crankbaits. Good stuff in low visibility water. The gold and chart hand tie that Richard Gene uses came from Perry Pippinger of Moonshine Crappie Jigs.

I like orange in muddy water myself , never tried gold in muddy water that I can remember
never put a hook point back in a plastic either ....

Interesting. Thanks guys.

First off i get the economy thing this has been my slowest summer in the 15 years i have been doing this hopefully things will change in a big way in november!!!i do make some gold colors and have used them in stained to muddy water with alot of success to me they rank right up there with black/char,orange/char and black/pink for muddy water i would even give them the edge on sunny days take a look at these and if anyone has any suggestions on different colors or swapping the same colors around i'm willing to give them a shot.Attachment 494008

I have played around with the Charlie Brewer snagless slider heads a little, casting in the Spring. They are made to rig like that, hook covered. Yeah you can hook fish with them, but after a few fish you have find a new hole - either turn or shorten the plastic. I get lazy about doing that, the hole in the grub body gets wallowed out, then hook point comes through and you’re hung up.
Not sure how they would work vertical, hook eye is at front of the jig head.

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I've never used a gold bait and seldom use pink/white or red/white.

The guy that got me started wintertime crappie fishing well over 30 years ago would rig his pony head jigs with tubes weedless. it looked goofy but he caught a lot of fish and embarrassed my friend and I many times.

I’ve used gold with good success and our local waters look like coffee from all the tannic stuff in the water. Add a good storm or an algae bloom and it sometimes gets downright soupy. They definitely work and the sunshine helps too. Never rigged em weedless like that. I’ve used trimmed brush guard jigs.

My favorite gold color ties are made with a chenille called Texas Toast from Crazy Angler Tackle. I have several different weedless rigs I use for soft plastics with my favorite being the Charlie Brewer slider head, the only heads I buy. I pour darter and stand up heads with #1 hooks and you can rig these with crappie plastics 2" and bigger. I mainly use these for bass but crappie eat these too. I don't fish from a boat but fish brush piles all the time. All these work vertical jigging.Attachment 494107

Gold color in off-colored water has been a favorite of mine for a long time. I've also had success using solid black in muddy water.

I never tried skin hooking my crappie jigs because the rods I use have a soft tip and I'm not sure how well it would drive te hook point through the plastic.

Jim

I’ve done the bass type weedless thing but I find it’s really hard to keep from getting line twist when vertical jigging that way.
So I just use regular jigs
As long as the brush is not deeper than my jig pole will reach ( to run the rod tip down when hung up )
I pull the jig to the tip of my pole and let it down.
About the only time I lose a jig is when a big bass for cat chomps down and heads for deeper water through the brush.


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Colors are not real important in my opinion as always. Presentation, but hard to beat white. :twocents:fish