Light jig question

This is for you guys mainly using 1/32 and under jigs. Whether you’re casting, vertical jigging, whatever style, are y’all using split shots above it or are y’all just fishing the jig itself?
I put split shot above mine, for two reasons. I can’t feel the jig due to the weight and mostly, I’m too impatient to wait.
You take a 1/48th jig head with a 1 inch plastic, I feel like my life is ticking by waiting for it to fall. Am I losing anything doing this other than increasing the fall rate? I’ve never got into having to have something fall painstakingly slow.


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Weight above.

Why not go with a 1/16 jig and forget about the weight above........:scratchhead

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Originally Posted by tlefire

Why not go with a 1/16 jig and forget about the weight above........:scratchhead

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Mainly because I can’t find a 1/16 jig with a small enough hook to fish little 1 inch plastics. Desperate times call for desperate measures.


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Find a rod that can feel light jigs. I have been fishing 1/64 ounce jigs since about 2009. For years I would add a size BB split shot about 18 inches above the jig head to get better casting distance and to feel the jig head. Then I read an interesting take from Charlie Brewer. He said if you have a weight above the jig head a fish could hit and move up a few inches and you would never feel it. I thought about that a lot. In 2012 I started getting all my rods out of Japan. The rods I buy can feel jig heads as light as 1/100. But I also started using true 2# test line. The smaller the line you have the more sensitive your setup will be. Now I don’t expect people to buy their rods out of Japan but there are rods sold in the US that can feel very light jigs. BnM TCB is one of those rods. It has no issues at all with 1/64 jigs. I would also look at your line diameter. I would seriously try to get some line in the 0.125mm diameter. I use lines that small and have landed many large Smallies with it. Landing crappie with it is no problem at all.

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Originally Posted by Auston22688

Mainly because I can’t find a 1/16 jig with a small enough hook to fish little 1 inch plastics. Desperate times call for desperate measures.


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Chuck and Deb sells 1/16 jig heads with size #8 hooks. They are perfect for what your wanting to do.

I don't use split shot above jigs. When casting small jigs I use a weighted float for distance and seldom fish them deeper than 5 foot deep. With lighter line like 2# tiny jigs fall faster so you can fish deeper and keep them down. Most lakes I fish are fairly shallow so heavy jigs aren't necessary. It helps to have a rod that you can actually feel the tiny jigs as you work them.

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Originally Posted by Auston22688

This is for you guys mainly using 1/32 and under jigs. Whether you’re casting, vertical jigging, whatever style, are y’all using split shots above it or are y’all just fishing the jig itself?
I put split shot above mine, for two reasons. I can’t feel the jig due to the weight and mostly, I’m too impatient to wait.
You take a 1/48th jig head with a 1 inch plastic, I feel like my life is ticking by waiting for it to fall. Am I losing anything doing this other than increasing the fall rate? I’ve never got into having to have something fall painstakingly slow.


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You are losing the whole purpose of it weighing a 1/32 oz. And are definitely missing bites also

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lighten up your line , go to 4 lb mono .....hooks much larger than 8 or 10 and 1/48 to 1/64 jig heads are for sure NOT the right meds with an inch long plastic .
I never put a weight above a jig , of course it all depends on several things, in the end, LS folks dangle bitty jigs under big egg sinkers .
but like stated . you will miss bites for sure with an additional weight above a jig and not being able to watch it on LS you will never even know it occurred .
light braid is also not the answer , it has a tendency to not cut the water like mono , it has too much buoyancy and surface irregularities to allow it to sink as fast as smooth mono .
this is yet another reason braid ain't good stuff .....
of course I am not a pro and only stumbling around on the bank most of the time , but to be sure of this .....
a tiny jig done right is often times the ticket to a herd of fish in hand .....luck to ya :highfive

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Originally Posted by Ketchn

lighten up your line , go to 4 lb mono .....hooks much larger than 8 or 10 and 1/48 to 1/64 jig heads are for sure NOT the right meds with an inch long plastic .

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I’m afraid I’m not following your statement. What size jig head would you recommend for a Bobby garland itty bitty or an atx baby shad?


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By no means am I an expert. But Ketchn is 100% right. If you are using LS then it’s the wait that is killing you, not the weight. Without LS you really wouldn’t know it as much. But I can tell you the wait is well worth it. As the majority of the time the slower fall will get me more bites and like Ketchn said you can definitely feel and see the line change rather it gets slack or tightens. As for casting match the weight with rod and good reel. Lighter line as Ketchn stated. Hang in there bud.


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I’m waiting on my livescope setup to get here. Really excited to see what’s going on underwater. So you guys are saying just be patient. Man that’s hard

Who are Chuck and Deb that have 1/16 ounce jig with # 8 hooks?Thanks for any info.

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Originally Posted by jammerman

Who are Chuck and Deb that have 1/16 ounce jig with # 8 hooks?Thanks for any info.

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CHUCKANDDEB

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Originally Posted by Auston22688

I’m afraid I’m not following your statement. What size jig head would you recommend for a Bobby garland itty bitty or an atx baby shad?


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I would reccomend a 1/32, it fits the itty bitty perfectly. In the summer time i have found the slower the fall the longer it stays in the strike zone, on the lakes that i fish. I also saw that your livescope is coming in, one thing i recommend with Livescope, some add weights above their jigs, i add a glass bead above my jig for the purposes of seeing it better, its far easier to keep up with your jig when you can associate it with 2 marks in the water. Just my 2 cents

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Originally Posted by jdk426

I would reccomend a 1/32, it fits the itty bitty perfectly. In the summer time i have found the slower the fall the longer it stays in the strike zone, on the lakes that i fish. I also saw that your livescope is coming in, one thing i recommend with Livescope, some add weights above their jigs, i add a glass bead above my jig for the purposes of seeing it better, its far easier to keep up with your jig when you can associate it with 2 marks in the water. Just my 2 cents

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I generally just flip a double jig rig when LS fishing ... and it's most often two 1/16oz jigs. And YES, it is much easier to pick your jigs out of the various "marks" showing on the screen. While I'm normally fishing the 12-20' depth range, sometimes from 10-30' away from the cover/fish ... if you're fishing shallower water, then a couple of 1/32oz jigs would work just fine, while also offering a "choice" of color combos &/or shapes of your plastics. In the dozen or so times I've double jig rigged w/LS, I've doubled up twice, so far.

I always use a weight above my tiny jigs when Live Scoping. This allows my jig to get down quickly but allows the jig to gently float down to the fish.
I actually pay closer attention to the fish when fishing these light jigs under a heavier weight. I see more bites than I feel. One tip is to watch the weight for any sudden sideways movements as this is a telltale sign that the jig has been taken.


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Thanks CrappiePappie for the info on Chuck and Deb jigs.Got some
on order.

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Originally Posted by Auston22688

This is for you guys mainly using 1/32 and under jigs. Whether you’re casting, vertical jigging, whatever style, are y’all using split shots above it or are y’all just fishing the jig itself?
I put split shot above mine, for two reasons. I can’t feel the jig due to the weight and mostly, I’m too impatient to wait.
You take a 1/48th jig head with a 1 inch plastic, I feel like my life is ticking by waiting for it to fall. Am I losing anything doing this other than increasing the fall rate? I’ve never got into having to have something fall painstakingly slow.


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I hate light jigs . I use nothing smaller than 1/8th oz here .

and I dont hate nothing , but I darn sure do not enjoy a 1/8 oz. jighead .....
can't stand my rod tip being bent by anything other than a fish is me .....:yikes
:Rofl

There's plenty of guys who pour and sell jigs on this board!! Tell them what you want and they'll make it!!

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Originally Posted by Ketchn

and I dont hate nothing , but I darn sure do not enjoy a 1/8 oz. jighead .....
can't stand my rod tip being bent by anything other than a fish is me .....:yikes
:Rofl

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You must use whippy poles if a jig bends it .:Rofl