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Any thoughts on dropping from 15 to 10 crappie on big 4? Not sure if I will make the drive for 10 crappie. I'll be looking for other options. Maybe this will produce the desired results they want. How about new proposed pole limit of 3 per person?. I dont think we can say we didnt see this coming. I do believe we will start seeing the effects of forward- facing sonar with the next couple years.
MDWFP are idiots. Yeah, I said it.
They are going to fool around and turn Grenada into Enid. If they think the population is getting pressure, sure make it 3 fish a day, whatever. But the one thing we have is big fish and that’s what needs protecting. Simple. 1 fish over 15”. And if they throw that survivability crap at me, whatever. If only 11% survive…well that’s 11%
More that survive, ya idjit.
Wannabe…
Not a fan of MDWFP.
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I don’t see it helping without more enforcement. I’m not going to pay a guide $400 to catch 10 fish. I think it will hurt local economy more than it will help fish.
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Wannabe, I like that idea better! What they have proposed currently will only target the bigger fish more imo. If I can only keep 10, I'm culling those 12"-13" fish most likely.
It’s going to affect the meat fishermen more than trophy fishermen. MDWFP should worry more about declining lakes from invasive species destroying lakes.
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Any source for the proposed change? A friend sent a picture of a Facebook post where a couple guys were talking about it earlier this week. I can't find anything about it.
Yes our wildlife commission is a joke. I remember seeing a video form the first week of February. A citizen proposed that MS send all state waterfowl stamp money to Canada to protect the breeding grounds. The commissioner answered, "I don't see how sending MS dollars to Canada so they can farm raise ducks helps MS duck hunters".. he actually thinks all ducks are farmed ducks and no wild ducks. Strike one, then this is the same guy who got caught baiting turkey this spring with crickets in Holmes county! So yes my faith in that bunch hovers between little to none!
It’s on the MDWFP website.
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So that's your answer? Can't be bothered with posting a link huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by lugnutzz
Not doubting it one bit, but come on throw a dog a bone here... go wading through all the inter workings on MDWFP site to find something others may can't find or see.
:Rofl
https://www.mdwfp.com/media/305927/4...4-proposed.pdfQuote:
Originally Posted by Snubby
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Does it really matter what is legal ? Dropping from 30 to 25 to 15 , has it mattered ? No. Only requires outlaws to make more trips per day home . They can make it one per day and it must be swimming west, it does not matter . All this mess about number of poles , this length on this lake , this length below the outlet . All is Garbage . We have no enforcement . To prove my point this past Wednesday I fished the opening of Elvis Presley lake . Slot length was 16-22 inches . We threw back 8-10 in slot . kept 3 . went home with 13 bluegill and 3 bass . While on the water a warden pulls up and checks our fish . He says one of those looks to be over 16 to him . I told him , check it . He says "very close " . My response to him was a half inch was not close to me . They leave and we fish on . On the way home I called a friend to see how he did . Turns out dude that complained about our one 15.5 had no problem with them having 12 in the slot ! There were wardens everywhere . He even was checked again leaving and the warden spoke up that he had already checked friends fish . My friend fishes lamar Bruce often where the slot is 18-24 was where he went wrong . The issue to me and has been forever is simply enforcement . Mississippi has sold out the little guy. Back in the day they cussed multiple fishing , now they want to go one pole . The deal is if you want numbers instead of buying poles ect , buy livescope . When they fail to enforce the laws/ regulations it encourages more to break laws . For years you could not do anything on federal waters to make money . Sell tomatoes , firewood , ect . No . At some point the State of Mississippi legislature must spend money rather than try to make money off of taxing , selling license, ect . According to our legislature they left 600 million in the rainy day fund last year . Why do we have longer growing seasons than northern states but we seem to be going backwards with game and fish ? We build fish hatcheries , why ? I bream fish a 88 year old that has a "lifetime " state pass . Why do they not sell them anymore ? Easy money . Guides , limits , poles , livescope , is not the problem . Lack of funds to enforce and protect the lakes is the issue . Rant over .
Eagle I agree with you. All these rule changes are going to keep honest fishermen off the lake. An outlaw is still going to break the law or bend as far as an outlaw can. Not only do we need more enforcement of laws and more wardens, we need judges that will back up those wardens and issue max fines and penalties.
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I didn't see a rod length limit for spillways.
Can fish Sardis spillway to Spaulding Creek with 3 rods, no length limit on crappie, keeping 10.
Can float Tallahatchie River from Spaulding Creek to Hwy 51, no length limit on crappie, keeping 30.
Wanna do away with overfishing and population,,, I believe limiting the amount of fish tournaments would help,,,guys aren’t supposed to keep the fish but I’ve yet to see one ,,,throw them back,,,
The guides take thousands of fish out every year. With two clients and a guide they can legally keep 40 fish a day. Start by making ALL guided trips have a boat limit of 25. I wonder if I wanted to guide deer hunts on land around Corps lakes would they a?ow that.
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Fished Magnolia crappie club and never took a fish home pre fishing or tournament day . Tournament fish were kept but not by individuals fishing .Quote:
Originally Posted by Takeum
Man, the times I have started to post something but stopped…Quote:
Originally Posted by crm
I got to know a few of these guides before they were guides. Thought they were cool dudes, and I still do.
30+ years ago, I thought I wanted to be a guide. Learned through a hard grind year fishing tournaments that I’m not wired right for that. Even though we were fairly successful, it was making me hate fishing. Took me awhile to find the joy again.
But to the point, I’m gonna just out with it. Fish in public lakes are a limited resource. I don’t see much if any difference between paying somebody for use of their boat, and being shown how to catch fish - and just buying the fish at a roadside stand. If you don’t have the burning desire, the love of the chase, the gumption… to buy and upkeep a boat, to learn the hard way how to catch - they are not worthy of eating the fish. Disagree, hate me, whatever. I don’t care.
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Well said!!Quote:
Originally Posted by J White
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Going up on Out of State License as well. Here is a link to other proposed items
Rules & Regulations
I understand it passed today. 10 per day over 12 inches. They left the pole number alone. July 1st the new rules are in effect.
Having never fished any of the Lakes north of Ross Barnett I don't have any input. I do have a question for all of you commenting on the subject of the current crappie populations in the Big 4 especially Granada. I remember years ago say 15 - 20 that the fish populations were insane, out of state harvesters were driving down in motorhomes with freezers installed, filling their freezers on a lake like Granada then fishing their way home only to sell the fish after arriving. I also remember reading about the Lake Management introducing a Hybrid (Man Altered not a Natural change) type of Crappie that was supposed to reduce the Crappie populations. Is it the opinion just that the Big 4 are over fished? The increase in the number of boaters that actually know how to catch Crappie, fish for them year around as we do, exploded in the last 15-20 years? Or does Management bear some of the blame for altering the Genes of enough Crappie to severely reduce the population by reducing the successful reproduction ability of the fish. It is not a very long lived fish to start with.
On here I see people post about catching lots of shorts on Enid and Sardis and only a few legal fish 12-13” fish. But on Grenada I see less numbers and shorts but bigger fish being caught. Ross Barnett I see more somewhere in the middle with not as many shorts but quite the number of bigger fish.
Also in last 10 years guide trips for crappie has picked up but in last 5 years it has exploded. And more guides on Grenada than the others. Also the number of tournaments and people fishing g them has greatly increased. And most every tournament hits Grenada as a stop in the fall or spring. They still fish the others but not as hard.
Also livescope has turned some into numbers fishermen and some into trophy hunters.
These are just my observations and opinions. Now would I pay a guide 350-500 to catch 10 fish, nope too much.
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Yup. My in-laws were at Sardis a couple weeks ago and caught 32 fish and didn't have a single keeper, threw every one of them back but watched a boat near them put every fish that boat caught in the cooler and then the boat met somebody on the shore to drop off the cooler before heading to the ramp. The wardens need to get out on the water and check and not just camp out on the ramp checking live wells when people come in. The locals are hip to the game and hand their fish off to somebody on the shore before heading to the ramp.Quote:
Originally Posted by lugnutzz
That’s just low down there.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigKyd
800-BE Smart is the report line to GW I think. Probably too late to get them but maybe they’d think twice before next time. And ramp check wouldn’t catch that. But a campsite check might.
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Camp site check means nothing . All they need to say is that they were caught below the dam . Saw a man clean 44 at persimmon hill campground on a service table . Got to be caught on water and that is no easy task .
LiveScope leads to lower crappie limits at popular MS lakes (clarionledger.com)
The new limit on crappie goes into effect July 24.
I griped about that on my home lake for years. Big campground on the water right on the prime fishing grounds. They would fill a cooler and go swap it for an empty. Then spend most the night cleaning fish. Nobody needs that many dang fish.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigKyd
They did this even back when the limit was 50, and they had multiple fishermen in the boat.
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Thanks for all the comments. I posted a few months back and asked if anyone thought there would be any changes coming down the road and had mixed comments. In some places I dont think livescope has had a tremendous impact on the population but on these flood control lakes they have been hit hard year round the last couple years. We will see what the future holds and how much these changes will help. I'm wondering how long before places like Texas and Oklahoma start cutting back their limits?
Duh
It’s not confined to the locals. Read the news reports of all the out of staters who have been caught doing what you posted, and worse. It’s a huge problem exacerbated by lack of personnel in law enforcement. I fish the big 4 exclusively, and fish at least 3 days a week. I’ve been checked once at the boat ramp in 2024. I have yet to be checked on the water.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigKyd
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