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Video to come. I recorded the whole thing. It’ll be cool. It’s wet in all the foam. Lots of work to go for sure.
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Very cool boss! Looking forward to seeing how you did this…
I watched what you already posted. They always look so empty without the cap.
That looks like a JOB!!!!!!!!!!! Looking forward to the video.:)
It's rough, but here it is:
https://youtu.be/WvPH4QX7w5A
That’s a whole lotta work. It was saturated with water.
Slab, I need to give you some advice on Cap storage. You must support the cap everywhere. One sunny day and it will sag making it a real pain, especially how y'all are having to work, to align the cap back the way it came off. They will twist, bow, sag in just one area, etc. Support it everywhere. I keep a bunch of old tires in the shop and frame up supports to the rim of the cap. I'm not seeing near enough in your video. Not trying to be dramatic here, I have already made the mistakes myself.
You are on your way
tanks John, will do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rojo
That foam does not belong sprayed in a boat IMHO. It just traps water, and yep, there's gonna be water!!!
https://youtu.be/DqL9fprge7I
Hi Slab, 2 things, first I use a Stainless Wire Cup Brush (not Twisted) on a grinder to buff all the polyurethane foam residual from the hull. Works great. Second White Bead Foam will get heavier than the spray in foam. I have pulled the decks of Aluminum boats that all of them had white bead foam, the foam weighed a ton. Just through condensation the foams can absorb water. Since the underside of your deck was not glassed in the moisture went right thru micro cracks in the deck surface and got trapped in the voids. Time then is all that is needed for the water to penetrate the foam. The expanding foam is still the best material for void flotation. The expanding foam 2# formula also provides some structure to the hull. just my :twocents
Going back with a composite deck glassed well on each side will help prevent the condensation penetration.
Composite floor, yeppers. Ain't no wood going back in for sure. Plus, there will be some sort of foam under the floor, but it likely won't be spray foam. I now have an aversion to spray foam, yuck! I have to look for a foam that resists absorbing any water (if even available), and at least will shed it. Maybe board foam foam from the home depot designed for water contact. I'll cut it to fit vertically so water can flow down, and I'll try to do something to keep it just off the actual floor, so it never sits in water. Maybe even cap the top edge of that foam somehow to keep water off that top edge. An aluminum tape might work to cover that top edge, dono. And I'll have drain holes at the bottom, transom end of the stringers for drainage. At least that's what I'm thinking now. Keep watching y'all, we will see what happens.
Slab, that 1708-S Glass I have is the stuff for your stringers. Conforms great. Best to use Epoxy on the stringers going back too. Just reminding you I have most of a roll.
I posted this video on another thread but it belonged here too:
https://youtu.be/wylZiQ0Urb0
Watch till the end, those stringers at the front of the boat are rotten for sure.
Watched it yesterday! YUCKY
The interesting thing is the stringers on a well made boat is intended to be just the forms for the fiberglass to be molded over. If they rot, no worries as it is the fiberglass Waffle shape that does all the reinforcement. Take a look at the Phoenix as well as many other quality manufactured boats there is no wood or any other "Molding Filler" within the stringer system. Phoenix videos are on YouTube, you can see they have a mold for their stringer system, one of the best I have seen (I hold a Unlimited Chief Engineers License) since no "Hard Lines" are created to fracture the Hull Skin against. Phoenix fills theirs with flotation foam. Now Slab's boat the builders just didn't put much glass on the stringers much like all the Champions I was paid Mega Bucks to fix. Age alone will wet out any foam flotation, you can't stop it unless the boat is garage kept. You can only slow it down. Condensation has a very tenacious way of penetrating most substrates. The skin on the expanding foams is one of the best at resisting condensation but it still makes it in over time. Also not discussed is how much added "Structure Strength" that foam shoveled out added to the hull, torsional stresses especially are dampened by the foam to the point of almost total arrest. Unfortunately due to the lack of Transverse structure (Transverse Bulkheads) twisting is allowed. Back to the Phoenix, their Waffle Stringer design is well engineered for the torsional stresses applied to the hull as they use well placed Transverse support in their design. Due to the depth of the stringers you can see the hull has a very nice V from the inside and Slab this is a bright line moment to add a bit of transverse structural support. Just my :twocents
Bow floor cut open.
https://youtu.be/VSJsEgEpQv4
New one I did yesterday.
https://youtu.be/sdM_Hb580Fk
It’s private Gewber…
Yeah, Slab is into the super secret Tech sector of Sprint de-construction. He's probably using some super secret, off world laser now, cuts the rot but leaves everything else untouched. Alien Tech. :Rofl Or just he got into a bottle of my wine and missed a keystroke or something.
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Originally Posted by BuckeyeCrappie