LS and jig presentation

I fish Livescope on the bow and my brother fishing a cork and jig on the back deck with no LS. On a number of occasions he out fished me big time!

When fishing LS it is apparent that if the jig is moved to fast or allowed to sink past an observant fish, that they don't like it and in almost cases won't be enticed to eat. BUT, my brother aggressively pops his cork using a 3 second pause and as I watch with LS the jig jumps almost straight up and then quickly falls back down.

Here are my questions.

Question 1 - How is it the fish can't stand my erratic movement and at times go crazy for his?
Question 2 - Is it the sound of the popping cork that turns them on at times when he out fishes me?

I'm not sure there are any definitive answers, but I'd like to know what others think.

Thanks a bunch,
Danny

I’m thinking his initial cast isn’t as close to them and curiosity gets them. When dropped or cast near them is when I notice them the spookiest sometimes. :dono Sounds good anyway…lol

Maybe it's not the movement or the sound but the jig sitting still above their heads. Just as you sad the crappie don't like the jig going past them. Hold the jig above their head and then when they seem interested pull it away from them, they don't like that causing a strike, well sometimes. Good Luck!

I have noticed that dropping the jig directly to them often spooks them. I have more success slowly lowering the jig and keeping the jig above them. :twocents

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Originally Posted by Retired2Fish

I have noticed that dropping the jig directly to them often spooks them. I have more success slowly lowering the jig and keeping the jig above them. :twocents

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and if you're using a slip float that's exactly what happens

crappie seem to really like something slightly above them and barely moving or not moving at all .
seems the LS crew that does well often lowers the bait to right above them exceptionally slowly .
I use a float more often than most and have great success with it .
there are some spots I "popping" cork it in the summer and even a few in the winter as well .
one thing for certain though, crappie often run away or go into scared mode when something closes in on them a bit too fast .
one of my favorite ways to entice takes is SUPER slowly dragging it past areas I think might have crappie .
one thing for certain , in cold water if it moves too fast , so do the crappie .....in the opposite direction .....:Rofl
my first time years ago to watch crappie on an LS unit in the winter ,shocked me at how a tiny flick of the jig sent them off the other way at super high escape mode speed .

Ketchn, “my first time years ago to watch crappie on an LS unit in the winter ,shocked me at how a tiny flick of the jig sent them off the other way at super high escape mode speed”

Exactly, that’s why I can’t figure out why at times they hit my brother’s aggressively popped cork and jig. I’ve watched his jig on LS. It just 2’ up and quickly falls back down. This happens over and over again.

NOTE - I tried this quick motion with my jigging rod and they hate it. Is it the popping sound of the cork that turns them on?

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Originally Posted by DeadlyDan

Ketchn, “my first time years ago to watch crappie on an LS unit in the winter ,shocked me at how a tiny flick of the jig sent them off the other way at super high escape mode speed”

Exactly, that’s why I can’t figure out why at times they hit my brother’s aggressively popped cork and jig. I’ve watched his jig on LS. It just 2’ up and quickly falls back down. This happens over and over again.

NOTE - I tried this quick motion with my jigging rod and they hate it. Is it the popping sound of the cork that turns them on?

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I suspected long ago that the float noise and visibility very likely interests them . they likely "hear/feel it" it with their lateral line and or see it and or both if the water is clear enough.
I have been known to flick my rod tip in the water to get them to thinking it's time to feed , crappie are legendary at waiting for left overs under a feeding frenzy ....:highfive

How deep are you fishing ?

I have observed so many different reactions to my jig, there are days when the best bite is to pitch past them and let the jig
pendulum over their heads. Other days , they seem to want it slowly lowered to their level and held still. twitching or popping seems to scare them
more often than attracting them . They will follow a slowly raised bait , but more often than not, they choose not to eat it.
One of the best things about livescope is seeing the reactions to different presentations.

Your mileage may vary

MO

I try to hold my bait still as possible right above their nose. Is your brother using same weight jig (slower fall)? Could he be farther from the fish ( you may be getting too close )?

Nimrod, he is casting the float, but often times he is fishing very close to the boat also.

He often uses a 1/16 and I a 1/32. So his jig would be falling faster. I just can’t figure out how/why his jig and move up and down so fast and I can’t get away with any movements like his. A mystery to be solved…

And at times I catch fish and he struggles to do so. That’s sac a lait for ya.

My last outing the trick was to be off to the side about 30 feet away, as the boat got closer to them the less bites we would get, they were holding about 20 feet deep. Were using 1/32 ounce jigs and very small tube jigs any heavier or bigger bites were far and few between. Cast pass them with slack line watch for the tick or exrta weight..

I love sniping them, but I guess I need to consider casting a jig and float at times. But vertical jigging with LS is my thing.

I use my Livescope to find them but I cast to them instead of trying to snipe them. I want a jig fished a foot above them moving as slow as possible. I fish pods of fish instead of trying to pick off individual fish.

I have seen that some lakes the fish run from a jig like you threw a brick in the water. Other lakes nothing bothers them .

Seen times in real shallow water when water super cold, if you move the bait they would not bite . Seen it sit still a minute or more then slowly sink bobber .