Daiwa 2023 Legalis LT 1000s

I ordered a Daiwa 2023 Legalis LT 1000s today fro Digitaka .
Is the newest model Legalis from Daiwa .
Comes with new Airdrive rotor and newly designed Airdrive bail , a thinner tubular bail.
The handle screws directly into the drive gears instead of a through handle shaft .
Should make it a smoother tighter handle with less wiggle and play .
Holds 120 meters of 2# test line .
As quick as Digitaka are , I should have it one day next week .
It has a 5.2/1 gear ratio , wish it were a little slower , but 5.2/1 should be too fast for jig tossing .
I’ve seen a picture and it’s a great looking black and gold reel .
Will review when I get it and hopefully get it properly slimed .

Awesome :popcorn I like Daiwa and looking forward to report

Awesomeness

I have a USA Legalis and it is a great reel for the money. Smooth and a nice drag.
Bob

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Big congrats!


Regards

Let us all know how you like it.
I had a 1000 daiwa legalis Lt, I leaned it up against my jeep and run it over. Loved the reel, it was the older blue model

I’m looking forward to your thoughts. Hope it comes soon.

Waiting to hear how it is. Have several of the older Legalis reels, one of the things I wish they had was the screw in handle.

Look forward to hearing what you think

I have the older black/gold one in the 1000d LT and the 1000s LT models .
And the blue 1000d LT models .
Looking forward to comparing them .
One of the few issues I had with the past models was the slight play in the handles .
The thread in handle should eliminate most of the play , I hope .
When you’re a jig twitcher you like a reel without a lot of play in the handle .
The newer one is supposed to be slightly lighter too.

I have a couple fuego models, 1000 is smooth nice reel for the money, there on sale often 79.99 scheels.

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Originally Posted by BIGFISHNFREAK

I have a couple fuego models, 1000 is smooth nice reel for the money, there on sale often 79.99 scheels.

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The Fuego LT 1000d is a very nice reel .
They have a newer model coming out soon .
It’ll be interesting what upgrades they will have , if any .

My only issue with the Fuego is it wasn’t offered in a shallow spool version.

I am looking forward to reading your report.

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Originally Posted by BIGFISHNFREAK

I have a couple fuego models, 1000 is smooth nice reel for the money, there on sale often 79.99 scheels.

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My Fuego is one of my favorite reels that I crappie fish with. Very smooth on all fronts for that reel.

I apologize to all who were waiting on a review from me on the Daiwa 2023 Legalis LT 1000s .
Today was day four since I ordered the reel and it had not shipped.
This not normal for Digitaka . I usually have my order in four days .
I came to my senses and canceled the order , while I still could .
I need to get a handle on my impulse buying .
There’s no way this reel could or would be smoother than reels I already have.
This one was a 5.2/1 retrieve and I’ve gotten to where I prefer slower reels, so after the new wore off, it would have wound up in the big cardboard reel box with the others not being utilized.

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Originally Posted by ALBuzz

My Fuego is one of my favorite reels that I crappie fish with. Very smooth on all fronts for that reel.

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I own more Fuego LT 1000d’s than I do any other reel . A great reel especially for what they cost .

I ordered a Daiwa 23 Legalis LT 2000s-p from Amazon Japan. This reel is offered in a 4.8/1 retrieve .
It’s all Victor’s fault . :)
It’s been ordered about a week . Hopefully it’ll get here before the holiday .
Victor from I_fish on YouTube does an in depth review of the reel . He disassembles the reel and compares it to the older 2017 version.
Although I don’t agree with him on everything he says , I do find myself in agreement with him on a lot of things .
Such as bigger diameter rod guides on ultralight rods for longer casting distance .
I found this true in my experiments I was doing comparing different rods I own .
Lately I’ve been enjoying fishing my St Croix 6’6” light action rods . They’re rated for 4-8# line , but I’ve found them fine for fishing 2# .
I’ll post my opinion on the reel when it gets here and I’ve had time to properly slime it .

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Originally Posted by gillchaser999

I ordered a Daiwa 23 Legalis LT 2000s-p from Amazon Japan. This reel is offered in a 4.8/1 retrieve .
It’s all Victor’s fault . :)
It’s been ordered about a week . Hopefully it’ll get here before the holiday .
Victor from I_fish on YouTube does an in depth review of the reel . He disassembles the reel and compares it to the older 2017 version.
Although I don’t agree with him on everything he says , I do find myself in agreement with him on a lot of things .
Such as bigger diameter rod guides on ultralight rods for longer casting distance .
I found this true in my experiments I was doing comparing different rods I own .
Lately I’ve been enjoying fishing my St Croix 6’6” light action rods . They’re rated for 4-8# line , but I’ve found them fine for fishing 2# .
I’ll post my opinion on the reel when it gets here and I’ve had time to properly slime it .

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Victor has been beating up on micro guides since he started getting the high end JDM Ajing, and Area trout rods. Me, I love em. Of course I want the most sensitive rods I can get. The closer the guides are to the blank the more sensitive the rod. Be that a JDM rod or US domestic rod. Ajing, Mebaru, and area trout rods are designed for one thing over all others. That is sensitivity. No rods in the US market have inner diameters as small as the rods out of Japan. And they have been getting smaller and smaller since 2012. The smallest I have currently are 1mm id. I guess they could get even smaller but line diameters would have to shrink greatly. My issues are seeing the darn things to get the line through the guide. Seems like it gets worse every few months[emoji23] How small are the guides on your Abu’s?

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Quote “How small are the guides on your Abu’s?”
I measured the stripper guide on the Abu rod and it’s right at 1/2” inside diameter , pretty small IMO. The St Croix rod is around 3/4” . 50% larger .
A 500 reel might match up pretty good , but I feel with a larger reel , line loops would suffer having to squeeze through that small of a guide unless a heavier jig is used .
I use lighter jigs than a lot of folks do . Under 1g . My heavy jigs with 4.65mm Tungsten beads weigh around .8g .
I feel heavier jigs help straighten line loops through smaller guides .
IMO , A lighter weight jig needs larger guides .
Micro guides work best on casting rods where you don’t have line loops .
My most sensitive rods are shorter rods , from 5- 5 1/2’ , but they give up distance unless I go to a heavier jig or weight . That’s why I use them for drop shot fishing .
I’m willing to give up some sensitivity to get casting distance because, fishing from shore , if I don’t reach where the fish are , sensitivity isn’t going to help me catch any fish .

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Originally Posted by gillchaser999

One of the few issues I had with the past models was the slight play in the handles .
The thread in handle should eliminate most of the play , I hope .
When you’re a jig twitcher you like a reel without a lot of play in the handle .

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Gillchaser,

Have you had a chance to check out the amount of play in the handle? Debating on ordering a couple if they don't have the play in the handle when twitching.

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Originally Posted by zekepa

Gillchaser,

Have you had a chance to check out the amount of play in the handle? Debating on ordering a couple if they don't have the play in the handle when twitching.

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I have .
The new 2023 Daiwa Legalis LT 2000s-p is much better than the older models of Legalis LT’s .
The best part is the shallow spool versions from Japan have a handle knob that can be tuned .
It has a screw instead of rivet , so you can remove it and add bearings and shims .
I can’t vouch for the US versions .
Plus the spools for 2023 Legalis will fit the older ones , so I ordered four 1000s shallow spools for my older USA Legalis .
They fit the gold/black and the blue versions .
If only I could find new handles cheap .

Thanks for the info gill. I ordered a pair of the LT 2000 reels. I I previously bought shallow spools for the older Legalis. If the Spool from the 23 fits the older models, I'm hoping the older shallow spools will fit the 23 model.

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Originally Posted by zekepa

Thanks for the info gill. I ordered a pair of the LT 2000 reels. I I previously bought shallow spools for the older Legalis. If the Spool from the 23 fits the older models, I'm hoping the older shallow spools will fit the 23 model.

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They should work.

The only one of the group that spools won’t interchange is the Fuego Lt and that’s because it has a bearing under the spool . I was going to pull the bearing and use a Legalis shallow spool , but changed my mind when the 23 Legalis spools went up after I bought them .

Zekepa, check out i_fish video about the 2023 Legalis .
Victor tears his down and tells the differences between the old and new Legalis LT’s .
2023 LEGALIS LT: The Undisputed Budget King Got Even Better! - YouTube

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Originally Posted by gillchaser999

I ordered a Daiwa 2023 Legalis LT 1000s today fro Digitaka .
Is the newest model Legalis from Daiwa .
Comes with new Airdrive rotor and newly designed Airdrive bail , a thinner tubular bail.
The handle screws directly into the drive gears instead of a through handle shaft .
Should make it a smoother tighter handle with less wiggle and play .
Holds 120 meters of 2# test line .
As quick as Digitaka are , I should have it one day next week .
It has a 5.2/1 gear ratio , wish it were a little slower , but 5.2/1 should be too fast for jig tossing .
I’ve seen a picture and it’s a great looking black and gold reel .
Will review when I get it and hopefully get it properly slimed .

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I’ve read good things on the Legalis. Looks like a very nice reel. I’ve been impressed with Daiwa’s stuff.


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Got a chance to try the 23 Legalis out today. The past couple of days have been warm for this time of year, enough that the ice came off my pond.

I didn't want to take the time to spool line onto the reel, so I just put one of the spare spools for the older legalis on it.

Rigged up a .5 size 8 jig hook with a Mille colored trout magnet, walked across the yard to the pond. Messed around for about a half hour, twitching the trout magnet. Managed to catch somewhere between 5 to 10 bluegill/sunfish.

Temps were slightly below 40 today with some wind, enough to put a bow in the mono line I was using making the twitching a little tough to feel the bite.

I fished the reel enough to figure out that I couldn't feel the play in the handle while twitching like I could on the older Legalis reel. I had played around with checking for play when I first got the reels, I could feel some play when holding the spool and moving the handle, not as much as the older Legalis but some.

I'm pleasantly surprised that when actually fishing/twitching I didn't notice the play. It won't be replacing my presso reel, but for the $75 I paid, I think you would be hard pressed to find a better feeling shallow spool reel.

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Originally Posted by zekepa

Got a chance to try the 23 Legalis out today. The past couple of days have been warm for this time of year, enough that the ice came off my pond.

I didn't want to take the time to spool line onto the reel, so I just put one of the spare spools for the older legalis on it.

Rigged up a .5 size 8 jig hook with a Mille colored trout magnet, walked across the yard to the pond. Messed around for about a half hour, twitching the trout magnet. Managed to catch somewhere between 5 to 10 bluegill/sunfish.

Temps were slightly below 40 today with some wind, enough to put a bow in the mono line I was using making the twitching a little tough to feel the bite.

I fished the reel enough to figure out that I couldn't feel the play in the handle while twitching like I could on the older Legalis reel. I had played around with checking for play when I first got the reels, I could feel some play when holding the spool and moving the handle, not as much as the older Legalis but some.

I'm pleasantly surprised that when actually fishing/twitching I didn't notice the play. It won't be replacing my presso reel, but for the $75 I paid, I think you would be hard pressed to find a better feeling shallow spool reel.

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I agree .
I think Daiwa is trying .

You’re teasing me again chaser.I’m weak when it comes to good gear and I just bought my 4th Sahara 3000 for my salty stuff. They do well for the money. I have a 7’ light action rod from academy that is very nice and I think I want a 2000 or 2500 for it. I’ve got several that I’ve swapped onto it. Right now a President 25 is on it but I’m not happy with it. It casts fine but I do t think it’s enough reel for the coast. I’ll probably do some homework and look into a reel for it in February.