Ethical or not ethical is the question ?

it has recently been brought up that it is Un sportsman like to use bait to attract animals with the purpose of a harvest and so in better hopes of wrapping my lil brain around this subject and to better ensure a more "sportsman" like approach to harvesting fish and game for consumption .
I began to wonder this about that , maybe everyone should use a bare hook and or bare jighead to ketch the fish , :dono
baiting is baiting you know .....:Rofl
now the only question I have left about this particular subject is ......does a painted jighead count as bait or not ....
inquiring minds want to know.... rotfl
on a side note ,,,,this may slow my ketch rate down considerably , just saying ....:banghead:Rofl:banghead:Rofl
slow to no KABOOM is the word ....:yikes
p.s. on a side note: this particular jig had a plastic on it and some super slick fish took it off and gave me back a bare jighead , probably trying to tell me how unfair it is was to use bait to ketch them is my thoughts ....just saying rotfl

Maybe they are against using makeup and such to catch a mate also!:Rofl :dono

If baiting is legal in your state, NO PROBLEM!

How many did you catch?LOL

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I actually have caught a fish on a bare jig. No doubt others have too. It wasn't intended that way of course but it happened when a plastic flew off during a cast and the fish hit the bare jig. Don't know what it was thinking.

Corn fed deer taste like corn fed beef!



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I use bare Black jigheads with shiners all the time, I really don't see a problem with it. We can go back to Spear Fishing for our food but with the funky waters here most of the time with no visibility I would resort to Road Kill for food or just starve.

As long as it doesn't result in over harvest it truly doesn't matter the method used to take said game as long as it will be consumed and not wasted. The snapping turtle with the wiggler on it's tongue is now not a ethical hunter /fisher? As far a feeding deer. Food plots and feeding do far more for the herd as a whole than the impact an ethical hunter has

I say as long as it’s legal where your at, fish and hunt how you want to and don’t care what opinions others have.

Differences between legal and fair chase? Might be culture, experience, age? State for sure.

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Well said

Perfect!

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I say as long as it’s legal where your at, fish and hunt how you want to and don’t care what opinions others have.

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That right there is all thats actually necessary to go by.
Then let your own conscience be your guide.

But, if you want to challenge your skills...:biggrin

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I absolutely love it!

I can maybe see what whoever is referring to when it comes to hunting but fishing is a wee bit different. We can’t breath underwater therefor most have something to attract fish to come and bite. But end of day as long as it’s legal don’t sweat the idiots.

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Originally Posted by DrNip

I can maybe see what whoever is referring to when it comes to hunting but fishing is a wee bit different. We can’t breath underwater therefor most have something to attract fish to come and bite. But end of day as long as it’s legal don’t sweat the idiots.

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sure we can , lots of spear fishing folks out there , no bait required , but like stated , if you are not breaking the law and you chose to pursue fish and game in a manner that does not include taking amounts of fish and game that might cause damage to the environment who cares how ya go about it ......just saying

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How many did you catch?LOL

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ZERO on a bare jig , but it got replaced as soon as it came up bare , one might say what a lovely challenge , and to be sure we did a lot of that kind of thing back when, just for grins and giggles , from spider rigging with spiderman combos :yikes to ketchn them with Swedish fish too .....rotfl
p.s. a gold wire bare bream hook will for sure ketch fish pretty well in the right hands , don't even ask me how I know ....:Rofl

Good post. Loved the donkey story.
Bob

Hmm, I saw a video where Hayden Jeffries catches a Crappie on a piece of trash…

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Hmm, I saw a video where Hayden Jeffries catches a Crappie on a piece of trash…

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If that’s the same one I saw, the fish attractant was the best part :)


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Some places chumming is illegal and unethical. Is chumming like baiting? Seems like fly fishermen are held in high regard. Not a bare hook, no live bait. Seems these questions have been around for a long time, eh? In the end, it boils down to is it legal, and does it satisfy YOUR standards. But differing opinions should be considered.

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If that’s the same one I saw, the fish attractant was the best part :)


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We saw the same one. I was thinking his sponsors must be cringing. It’s off the www now.

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Some places chumming is illegal and unethical. Is chumming like baiting? Seems like fly fishermen are held in high regard. Not a bare hook, no live bait. Seems these questions have been around for a long time, eh? In the end, it boils down to is it legal, and does it satisfy YOUR standards. But differing opinions should be considered.

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this ..... if it's legal and it makes you happy go for it ..... let's not forget all those that came before us to make it so .....in some spots around the planet things we banter over are possibly something that could go south in a bad way .....
ketched fish over the years using about anything that was lawful , some of those things are still in my bag of trix and might be employed when deemed needed to ketch .....
used trash myself one fine day on a white bass run , stopped at around 350 something because I was tired and lost count .....
a split shot and a single hook and a pc. of plastic bread wrapper off the bank .....and they were just flat out destroying it !
draws quite a crowd when you sling like that and to be sure lot's of laughs at my "bait" that day ....:Rofl

...one could always use a stick a dynamite.....KABOOM! Merciful and quick.

I knew fellas once who used some old TA-312 military crank telephones to shock fish to the surface in their swamp pond. Those things (phones) sure put off a zap. Fer sur it was illegal….

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I knew fellas once who used some old TA-312 military crank telephones to shock fish to the surface in their swamp pond. Those things (phones) sure put off a zap. Fer sur it was illegal….

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If it was their own pond maybe not , just saying, seen my buds son fill up a 5 gallon bucket with big crappie going over the spillway on their lake using a landing net during a small flood , totally legal on private waters in this state ...:cheers2

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Originally Posted by Spoonminnow

...one could always use a stick a dynamite.....KABOOM! Merciful and quick.

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Years ago my old man did that very thing to take surgeon out of the river. If a brown trout floated up...
Different times, but probably illegal and unethical, eh?

I'm guessing Ketchn was posting this as a joke. But...i think use of an artificial jig would be considered more of a decoy than baiting. The baiting debate for hunting is about using natural food sources to attract the animals. Decoys are generally acceptable.

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I'm guessing Ketchn was posting this as a joke. But...i think use of an artificial jig would be considered more of a decoy than baiting. The baiting debate for hunting is about using natural food sources to attract the animals. Decoys are generally acceptable.

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It was actually , lol , but this , they got em a big professional tournament debate going on in Facebook right now about professional’s minnow use in tournaments.
And in the end it is all about what makes ya happy if it ain’t illegal, some folks just like to take a less traveled road than others :cheers2