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What are you fellows using for livescoping, I use mono, but yesterday I tried braid and it really helped me to feel the light bites, I was catching a lot more crappie than I usually catch. Could feel them better. But now what I was trying was 20 pound braid, what pound test are y’all using and line diameter.+Cross+
You can see braid on livescope too. I’ve tried braid but I keep returning to mono. Just what I prefer
superdave I am hear to tell you it really changed my style of fishing it made my bait really slow down and kept the bait in front of the crappie nose longer, got lots more bits than I normally get. I usually fish with 4 rods all setup a little different I am gonna buy another spool of braid but I want other’s opinion about what pound test to buy.Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperDave336
for bite detection it's hard to beat braid
Braid gives you a fraction of a second more advance time to feel /see the bite and react. Braid is sometimes easier to see on LS too, but not always. Jig or split shot usually shows up equal on both. :twocents
I currently have 10# & 15# braid (with dia equivalent to 2# & 4# mono) rigged on two of my rods. I think it helps when crappie are lightly hitting the bait.
I use braid when fishing deeper than 5ft and when fishing heavy cover (so I can get my jig back). The deeper you fish the more braid shines for bite detection. I use 10lb braid on my spinning reels.
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For years used braid hi-vis for everything, casting, flipping, dipping and livescoping. Recently went to mono and I feel like I get way more bites. Even tested it side by side. Haven’t had and floro I been happy with yet on a spinning reel, to much line twist.
Braid has also been very frustrating livescoping the way we rig. Jig on bottom with two heavy weights above to get down to fish fast. Reason it tangles like crazy and no hope of it coming out just get out the scissors.
With all that said I do use heavy mono and can most of the time see it on the screen. Big Game Trilene 15 lb test and can normally rip it off snags and straighten the hook just like braid.
Sorry if this post was too long! rotfl
Braid is great if you are confused about what is a bite and what isn’t
You get your jig back after you run off all the fish as well
And it tangles like spider webs for no apparent reason all the time
And cuts fingers like a knife too …
The good news is while you fight them braid issues , me be ketchn :Rofl
AND some of the lighter braids break off easier than 6 lb mono …
As far as easier to see , remember this , solid is solid and diameter gives line visibility, not what it’s made of , sonar reflects off surfaces no matter the materials it’s made of , lead ain’t better than steel , plastic isn’t better than wood and neither is braid versus mono …
No matter who says otherwise….:yikes
Carry on …:Rofl
15lb braid to a 10lb mono leader in real clear water. In heavy stained to muddy water I don't use a leader.
Fished braid on my jig rods from the time fireline came out. I fished mono on trolling and nightstalk rods. I went to scoping and did braid with a flouro leader on 10-16ft rods. Scoping is pretty much all I do with the exception of a spring trolling trip with dad a time or two. Those rods still have mono. Fluoro on the long rods took away to tip tangles, and even after years of using braid, I can't tell a difference in bite detection. Some folks claim they can, but I can't. That said, I've got two 10ft rods I cast with, and I'm tempted to try mono on one of them, but the fluoro is working just fine.
I’m old skool…mono guy here! 6 or 8 lb depending on rod. Stren is my preferred brand
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Stren clear blue 6 lb. mono is VERY good line :highfiveQuote:
Originally Posted by Slab Apprentice
Stren clear blue 8 lb.. mono is also VERY good line :highfiveQuote:
Originally Posted by Slab Apprentice
Will have to try the clear blue! I’ve always defaulted to low viz greenQuote:
Originally Posted by Ketchn
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Braid and nothing but braid for three reasons:
1. casting distance of 1/64 oz + plastic lure
2. strike detection at the longest casting distance
3. better hook sets no matter the distance or size fish using small gap hooks
8# test braid (KastKing) / 4# diameter super strong when it come so getting unsnagged even if it meas straightening the hook
Today's examples using 1/64 and 1/32 jigs, casting distance 40':
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I judge line not only by the largest fish the line prevents breakoffs fighting, but the smallest fish the line can get a good hookset.
It worked well using spincast and spinning reels. Many fish were caught pitching lures to pad pockets and in open water.
Braid does it all.
I just bought a spool of 6# mono for one of my casting rods to replace the 8# braid. I love the sensitivity of braid but the line twist and wrapping around the rod tip is frustrating. All of my single pole rods have braid, but I may try fluorocarbon.
Hey, Spoony .... if KastKing braid is 8/4, you should try PowerPro. I use the 10/2 version, but started with their 8/1 version.
Have ued Power Pro, like it, but I'm too cheap. LOL (One of the rods I used yesterday has been repaired 3x !) :yikes
that 8 is strong stuff , not sure what it breaks at , but it should hold up to about everything freshwater pretty well ....Quote:
Originally Posted by Slab Apprentice
I fish 8# mono a lot now especially if I'm fishing brush or structure. I won some BnM rods that came with 8# already spooled and loved fishing structure with it so switched. I don't fish as heavy a line if casting or open water.
I use 8 and 10 mono in some spots , if I think the fish are going to run large and or some "other" kind of fish are likely in the mix ....Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperDave336
Today I tried to fish with braid in 10-15 mph winds and that’s almost impossible, the wind caught the line out of the water and would not let the jig sink enough for the strike, so I am eating a little crow here, but I am gonna change some of my rods back from braid back to mono. But with that said braid is much better when there is no breeze blowing and you want your jig to go as slow as possible, braid is the ticket to me.:twocents
I run 4lb braid to about a 8-10 foot 4lb fluoro leader. Just like a longer leader as it seems to not hit the guides as much.
If the rod repairs were due to the braid .... back off an extra 1/3 on the drag or learn to sweep the rod (rather than jerking it). :twocentsQuote:
Originally Posted by Spoonminnow
Stepping or falling on rods is what breaks them - not braid. My drag is just right along with rod flex to fight larger fish. Thanks for the suggestion.Quote:
If the rod repairs were due to the braid .... back off an extra 1/3 on the drag or learn to sweep the rod (rather than jerking it).
I really like braid for the sensitivity. BUT...I feel like i spend WAY more time untangling wind knots. I've gone back to mono for vertical jigging.
I allow 2' of line below the top guide to the lure. Side arm casts also help.
Of course the best way is to use heavier jigs or lures 1/8oz of heavier and/or cast with the wind.
A few more reasons I dislike plastic line:
1. more line twist than braid when using spinners
2. the line bows toward the water when using light lures on a slow retrieve = slack and less light strike sensitivity
3. line memory creates line coils which limit casting distance of light lures
4. get stuck in spincast reels every 4th cast
5. larger knots than braid when tied on to light jigs/lures which reduces lure action. This is due to a larger line-test diameter.
I've ran the gambit and fluoro is where it's at for me.
The biggest drawback for me with braid was tip tangles on my long rods.
It definitely does.. with 8 I can almost always straighten the hook and rebend it out of a brush pile. Honestly, probably my preferred line. Still catch a lot of fish and have even caught big striper!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ketchn
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Some folks say straight braid wont matter, and a lot of times it doesn't but I've done side by side comparisons on finicky, hot, clear water black crappie and there are absolutely times where it matters.
6 lbFire Line crystal lately with a short fluoro or mono leader to keep lure tangle down on casting rods, 6-10 braid on all the line counter crank rods. Was long line cranking last weekend 100-120 feet and can feel the slightest little piece of weed messing with the lures action...a couple of hard rod snaps will clear it 85% of the time.
For old guys like me comparing mono to braid is like comparing a carburetor to EFI..lol
For casting I still like 6lb. mono. For fishing timber with a 15 ft pole I like 12 lb mono.
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Most of my fishing is over brushpiles 16 to 20 ft. I have settled on Sufix 832 braid 20 lb test, with a 2 ft leader of mono. I use a bead and swivel to
keep the grandkids from reeling the fish all the way to the tip :). The bead/swivel shows up on live scope well, One of my presentations is
to put the jig down in the pile , with only the bead/swivel showing above the pile.
your mileage may vary
MO
30lb hi vis yellow braid on my jig rods....I don't have livescope....I catch just as many if not more fish than my buddies with live.
way to go Ryan, just shows you don’t have to have the expensive equipment to catch fish, time on the water means everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyanJ
Good for you but when they get efficient with the LS hold on to your hat. :cheers2Quote:
Originally Posted by RyanJ
I was a 15 lb his-vis braid guy with a 1/8 oz jig as diehard as you can be until I seen with my own eyes (looking) at the livescope what can actually be done! :yikes
keefer fish I am right there with you with livescope, I am still learning but I can go and catch a mess of fish with it. You know all don’t believe or can afford it, so I give that young man without it a thumbs up.+Cross+Quote:
Originally Posted by keeferfish