New casting distance champ

My thoughts were rods with a big Fuji style stripper guide would give line the least amount of resistance. But I also thought a shorter rod with big guides would be a long caster .
Fewer guides , less resistance.
This afternoon I strung up an older model 7’ Daiwa Procyon ULF rod with 2# Floroclear on a Daiwa Fuego LT 1000d and tied on a 1/64 Trout Magnet jig and TM body .
Measured distance was 64’+ . And it did it several times.
I’ve got a couple other seven footers with Fuji ceramic guides that need to try .
I think 64’ with a 1/64 ounce jig is unbelievable, imagine what a 1/32 jig will do . I may have to try , but I’m running out of open driveway space . I may have to trim a few limbs hanging over the driveway.

Getting it done

Pretty impressive

Some years ago I entered a distance casting competition in North Cacalackie. Hairy legged men standing around on a turf farm, seeing who could cast a sinker the furthest. My 5 ounce sinker went 705 feet.

I think your cast is amazing.

North Cacalackie? What an interesting name….in Florida?
Bob

Way to go. That makes my 46 foot efforts with my three rods seem miniscule. I guess I need to practice more. I still have plenty of driveway left.

And out theories get blown up yet again. I’ve been going to the salt for a couple of weeks and casting with those size plugs has me spoiled. That’s a long cast.

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Originally Posted by gillchaser999

My thoughts were rods with a big Fuji style stripper guide would give line the least amount of resistance. But I also thought a shorter rod with big guides would be a long caster .
Fewer guides , less resistance.
This afternoon I strung up an older model 7’ Daiwa Procyon ULF rod with 2# Floroclear on a Daiwa Fuego LT 1000d and tied on a 1/64 Trout Magnet jig and TM body .
Measured distance was 64’+ . And it did it several times.
I’ve got a couple other seven footers with Fuji ceramic guides that need to try .
I think 64’ with a 1/64 ounce jig is unbelievable, imagine what a 1/32 jig will do . I may have to try , but I’m running out of open driveway space . I may have to trim a few limbs hanging over the driveway.

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Those are great results but without testing different types of lines and line diameters your test on guide comparison is still incomplete. Different types of guides, numbers of guides and guide layouts are used for different types of line. The variables are just too many to draw conclusions from your test.

Braided lines vary greatly but its generally regarded among rod builders micro guides benefit braided line and increase casting distance when compared to larger guides. Better explained here:

What You Need to Know About Rod Guides - On The Water

Generally among rod builders including Fuji it's accepted micro guides increase casting distance when using braided lines since braided line doesn't have memory issues just as I posted earlier.

I tested a couple rods last winter with X9 6lb braid and 1/32 oz jighead. I misplaced my notes but do recall my 7ft 1" YB TZ/Nano rod with micro guides was easily outcasting an Okuma 8ft Pro Guide rod with larger guides with the same jighead, reel and line. I used a green foam knee pad (pictured in the distance) to mark the landing spot so the laser rangefinder could obtain a reading.

I have used PLine Floroclear 4lb in the past but gave it up long ago in favor of braid.
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MtnFisher, I’ve tried braid and never found one I liked . I tried Power Pro, Daiwa J-braid X-8, Daiwa J-Braid X-8 Grand , and a couple KastKing braids that were supposed to be their best . Didn’t care for any of them . Wasted about $100 .
As far as Floroclear I have 2, 3, and 4# . I like the casting distance and challenge of using the 2# Floroclear.
Most folks are afraid of losing a fish on light line . I’m not . I haven’t had one break me off yet . I’ve had them wrap me up on snags and bury in moss resulting in my losing a fish . And had a couple of knots fail . That’s just part of the game I choose to play .
By using the same line on every rod and reel combo I test , it keeps everything on an even challenge.
If I were to switch to braid , I’d have to use the same reel with every rod I tested to get accurate findings .
I’m glad others are exploring and experimenting with their equipment and posting what they find . I think and hope this helps others in choosing the tackle they want use to chase whatever fish they’re after .
I’d like to see your results if you can find them .

Chaser, I wish we were closer so I could put my rods in your hands. May not change your mind but I’d be interested in those results.

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Originally Posted by skeetbum

Chaser, I wish we were closer so I could put my rods in your hands. May not change your mind but I’d be interested in those results.

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I think I’m fairly open minded about trying new tackle .
I like results and you don’t know until you try .
I played around with a few 6’6” St Croix light action rods this morning. I liked everyone of them.
I’m beginning to think guides maybe one of the most important factors in getting the most out of a rod .
All of the rods I cast today have big stripper guides with aluminum oxide inserts .
I was using 1000 and 2000 size reels today . I need to check out these rods with my Soare 500 reels .

Tried three 6’6” light action SC rods this afternoon , one with a Shimano Soare BB 500spg , one with a Sahara 500, and one with a Nasci 500 . All with 2#
Distance for all three was close to the bigger reels by 2-3’ . But the overall weight was less and the rods felt like an extension of my arm .
The only way to get the weight down with bigger reels is to spend more money .
How much is 2-3’ of distance worth ? :)

For 2-3’….. not much difference to me, and definitely not worth a lot of $$$$. :twocents

If a reel does what I need it to do reliably with no hiccups then 2-3 feet is not worth a bunch of money. I've never found any ultra light rod and reel to feel particularly heavy and arm wearing. Now I know there is ultra light gear that feels like you're holding a cloud in your hand. But I can be happy with decent quality gear at a more normal weight.

I agree with y’all. That small a gain isn’t worth much.

Interesting results, I would have guessed the distance difference to be greater. Shows how little I know!

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Originally Posted by peshtigost

Interesting results, I would have guessed the distance difference to be greater. Shows how little I know!

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You would think it’d make a bigger difference.
I got out there today with my five footers , mostly with 1000 and a couple of 2000 size reels . Casting the same 1/64 trout magnet and body , there wasn’t much difference in distance . The short rods were doing it .
I still think a lot of it has to do with the guides and the 2# line .

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Originally Posted by gillchaser999

You would think it’d make a bigger difference.
I got out there today with my five footers , mostly with 1000 and a couple of 2000 size reels . Casting the same 1/64 trout magnet and body , there wasn’t much difference in distance . The short rods were doing it .
I still think a lot of it has to do with the guides and the 2# line .

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You mean you were getting 60+ feet? Low 40s is about all I have gotten for a 1/64 oz. I def would like 60+!