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Does the DFWL have any solution to the volume of short fish at Green River? I understand you got to have small ones to grow to be big ones. However, looks like they have a stunted situation on their hands. 1 keeper out of every 10 caught? Not good odds. Really getting to be a sad situation in my opinion.
I feel the same way about Taylorsville. I can catch 9.5 - 9.75 fish all the time. 10's are hard to find. For me anyways lol.
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The overall size of fish to me is down from years pass but I still catch more keeper size fish than dinks on most days. I also think the patterns has changed since white bass started coming back and with all the fish pressure it has.
Maybe the fish are smarter than you think. They know the size limit and when they get near that they eat less so they don't go over that limit. Eat less live longer! :Rofl
The lakes are so overfished a fish doesn't have a chance to live very long once big enough.
Can’t comment on Green…but I can only hope that everyone understands that taylorsville is full of nothing but short fish. I have been fortunate enough to find the only 15 keepers in the lake on most days that I go. Even more strange…when I decide to take my dad we find the only 30. Dunno..
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Quite right, BCO ... when the size limit was 9" it was no trouble to catch 50:1 throwbacks to keepers. BUT, limits of keepers were hauled out of the lake every day. I think even I might have done it a time or two. :yikesQuote:
Originally Posted by BCO
One of the very reasons I gave up using minners was due to the overwhelming number of throwbacks caught. With jigs, well you just chuck'em back into the lake & keep on casting if they don't measure up.
I think a lot of people are too "bank oriented" ... and I confess that I've been guilty of being that way, too. I've also been guilty of making a "milk run" over the same stretches of banks way too often. I'm going to try and break that mindset & explore other areas of the lake more often.
If you and 2 buddies, the last 45….?Quote:
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Probably not man..my buddies aren’t so good at the crappie thing. LolQuote:
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If they'd do like i do they wouldn't hurt the population much. I don't catch many & take even fewer than that home. :Rofl Seriously though I haven't took a fish home in a few months now. I will keep a few when the spawns over but not that many then & i love fresh fish.Quote:
Originally Posted by JCCLARK
Lol!!Quote:
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I may voice something unpopular but here goes anyway. I was met in the parking lot at Holmes Bend, by a Game Warden doing creel surveys. They asked me what I had caught, numbers, sizes, etc. They also wanted input on the fish attractors installed, and my thoughts on what would improve the fishery at Green River Lake. My thoughts was increase the size limit from 9 inches to 10 inches and reduce the creek limits from 20 to 15. That’s my opinion and I know people will disagree. It’s ok to agree to disagree.
They did that on Taylorsville ... and you still catch mostly non-keeper sized fish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dock Shooter
As far as "fish attractors" in Green .... most of the ones I have marked (by manually writing them down off the KDFWR website & manually inputting them into my depth finder) are long gone. The "brushpiles" that have been placed by anglers or Ma Nature are still holding up and usually holding fish.
Just to be honest about the attractors .... I'm referring to the ones between Butler Creek & Holmes Bend. I've fished the ones around the State Campground & Emerald Isle Marina, but that was MANY years ago and I haven't been back there recently, so I don't know what their condition is these days.
Green definitely needs some help of some kind. The fish there are pretty thin.
I quit fishing green river for this very reason. Maybe it's just me, but I rarely catch a quality fish in that lake. I'd rather go to Herrington and catch 6 good ones than drive to green and catch 60 dinks. Just my opinion.
I have fished green since I was 5 years old. When I was a child there was no size limit on the fish and creel limit was 60 per person. If the fish was big enough to bite the hook it got kept. We would bring home 120 fish every trip. When I was in my 20's there was a 9" size limit and 30 per person creel limit. We would have to caught 100 fish to have 10 keepers on most days. Now i am 52 years old and for the pass several years if we catch 100 fish 60 or more fish are keeper size fish on most days. I ask my dad a while back about the size of the fish when I was a kid to now and he says the fish are a lot bigger now (as a whole) than they were then. The lake goes in cycles you will have 4 or 5 good years and the fishing will go down for 4 or 5 years. Think of all the floods we have had 3,4,5 years ago and what it did to the spawn. Those fish would have been keeper size fish now.
Depends on what lake's fish you're comparing them to, Les. They certainly don't measure equally with Cumberland fish of the same size, and no one expects them to IMHO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Les Young
I also think that if the KDFWR were to raise the size limit on Green to 10" keeper size ... it wouldn't take long before you'd hear grumbling about so many 9.75" fish, yada yada yada. (same scenario we've heard about Taylorsville)
If we keep raising the size limit and/or lowering the creel limit ... it won't be long before it won't be worth the effort or expense to even go fishing at our state lakes. :twocents
Pappy I wasn't comparing them to cumberland fish i was just making a general statement about how thin a 9" keeper is on green. Seems like when they get 10+ they start bulking up a little. They sure ain't thin because of a lack of food because greens sure not in short supply when it comes to shad for sure. Most of it maybe be because of a higher density of fish per acre compared to other lakes so less chance of getting fat like the other lakes fish.
My RV is set up at The Tackle Box Camp Ground near the state park at Green year round. I fish Green a lot. Also fish Taylorsville as it only about 40 minutes compared to the hour and half to Green. I will have to say that the quality of the keeper fish at Taylorsville appear to me to be thicker and just look healthier than the keepers at Green. Just my observation. There are good ones at Green too, and I have caught them but I am talking about overall.
I have been fishing Green the last 5-6 years with success(half a limit is a good trip to me). I have always caught a lot shorts to keepers during this time. I missed the early part of this spring due to work and boat issues. I will say that there are a lot more boats now sitting over KDFWR piles than I have ever witnessed when I do get to go and a lot of shorts. Since the Covid year, fishing pressure has definitely increased, in my opinion. The word got out.
I fish Green for numbers not big fish. I fished it 9 days in April and limited out each day (many days by noon). About 10% of my keepers were below 10 in and most of them were 91/2-93/4. I threw back about 500 shorts. I didn’t catch any over 14 but most were 11-12 in. and very healthy. Talked to couple of fisherman complaining about all short fish. I asked how deep they was fishing. Between 3-6 ft. The water temperature was 68 so that is what you would expect. I slow troll spider riggings and was catching fish between 10-12 ft in about 15-20 fow. Recommend that he fish deeper. Seen him about 2 hours later and ask how things were going and he said much better. I go to Ky Lake for big fish and people there complain about small fish. Me and my buddy fished 3 1/2 days and had 60 nice size fish (3 over 15 in and most 13-14). I have caught some big fish out of Green but not on a constant basis. I think if the size limit was raised to 10 in that over a few years you would start seeing bigger fish come out of Green. Just one old man’s opinion.
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