I have an Eagle Ultra Classic and an Eagle Magna Veiw, the ultra is the bigger and more costly unit, does anyone have one of these and how the heck do I find brush piles with them, I am lost, can my depth finders even find brush?
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I have an Eagle Ultra Classic and an Eagle Magna Veiw, the ultra is the bigger and more costly unit, does anyone have one of these and how the heck do I find brush piles with them, I am lost, can my depth finders even find brush?
I'm not familiar with the Eagle products, but you will be able to find brush if it's set up right. I'm sure someone here will be able to help you with your unit.
I have 2 Eagle Ultra III's and a Eagle FishMark 480, a much newer unit and there is a world of difference in the units, the 480 is by far a better unit. The Ultra's are much harder to interpret than the 480 with its greater number of pixels. So much sharper.Quote:
Originally Posted by HillbillyRock
So what your saying is I need newer units,lol. Is there anyway to set the ultra up to find brush? Do you set your sensitvity high or what?
I have two Eagle Fishmark 480's mounted in my boat. I have one on the console and one on the trolling motor. I am will pleased with the units. I think they are excellent buys for the money.
Yeah i geuss it's time to upgrade, how do you see brush piles under the water with a graph???
Yes, you'll be able to find brushpiles and stumps with your units. Your Magna only has 100 vertical pixels and 275 watts. The Ultra Classic has 160 vertical pixels and 600 watts of power. What you won't get is the great resolution and extra power of the newer units, but you should be able to get by fine as long as you keep that in mind.
Things to help include running your sensitivity as high as you can without too much cluttering on the screen, turning off those annoying fish symbols :mad: , and maximizing your depth range. By that I mean try and run in manual so that you can set the bottom depth as close to the actual bottom depth your in. For instance, if you are looking in 15-18' of water, have your unit manually set to the 20' depth screen. In auto your unit might try and switch you over to 40' and when it does that you lose resolution. You'll need the most resolution you can get.
Beyond that, don't worry about seeing fish as much as finding brush. Brush will look like a clump attached to the bottom of your screen, almost like a hump. When you are first trying this it will help if you keep a marker buoy handy. The minute you see what you think is brush toss it overboard. Then go back to the marker and try and sit right over the brush. It should show up well on your depthfinder at that point. Drop your crappie rig down to the bottom and see if you can feel the brush or even hang up. Just do this enough times until you get comfortable with knowing that what your depthfinder shows as brush is actually that. Once you have that confidence, then you can sit off to the side after marking and either troll or cast around the spot, whatever method you prefer.
It will also help if you make sure to run your chart speed at 100%. That will help with update rate between what you see on the screen and what is actually underneath you. But as soon as one of your old units dies, I'd be looking into a Fishmark 320 or a Fishmark 480. :D
-T9
Thanks partner, that was the info i needed right there. The magna on front is starting wig out a little so i will put the ultra on the front and buy me one of those fishmark units for the helm.
Go to www.eaglesonar.com they have lots of information and they even have a tutorial that brings your graph up on your screen and teaches you how to use it
Thanks guys, I used the manual on the ultra and did decent tonight, it really helped show structure.
I've had/used Eagle depthfinders for years. Currently have :
Eagle ID Fishfinder
Eagle Z-5000
Eagle Magna II
(all three of which are no longer usable)
I also have a Lowrance Flasher unit (currently being used on my fishing partners boat).
I don't remember giving more than $150 for any of these units, and more like around $100 for most of them. They have all performed very well, for the purpose I purchased them for ... finding the water depth, and showing bottom contour and cover. I almost always (99.5% of the time) run them in auto mode. This is mainly due to the fact that I don't often fish directly under the boat ... I'm usually casting to cover, away from the boat. But, I do occasionally run across cover, that I didn't know was there, and have found new spots to fish by doing so.
IF/when I purchase a boat, for myself, I would not be hesitant to purchase a Eagle brand, or Lowrance brand, depthfinder for it. Proper placement of the transducer(s), correct angle adjustment to transducer, and placement of the unit itself ... can make even a low $$ depthfinder, a seriously effective tool for locating the structure & cover that fish like to utilize.
Understanding the limits of the unit you're using, the cone angle (and what it can/can't/does show you), and the interpretation of the "picture" being shown on the screen ... takes a little studying, and use time. Study the manual, or tutorials, and don't "expect" the unit to find the fish for you, and you're good to go. Remember ... the unit can only show you what it "sees" within the confines of the cone. And a 20deg cone angle will only show a circular section of the bottom, that's 1/3 as wide as the depth of water you're in (and that's at the widest portion of the cones influence ... ie, the bottom of the cone --- it's showing proportionally less of the water column, the shallower/farther up the water column, towards the transducer, that it's looking at)
When used in conjunction with a good topographical map, most any depthfinder can help put you closer to where the fish should be. But, you've got to understand the fish, its habits and habitat, in order to know where the most likely place to look for them, is .... THEN use the depthfinder to find the depth or cover that they're most likely on/in/around. Where they are, how deep they are, what they're around, and the conditions under which you're fishing ... should dictate what methods & presentations (& even baits) that you are most likely to have success using.
.... luck2ya ... cp :cool:
Wow! that was edjucational.
Look in the archive board and find Jerry Blake's article. It is almost as informitive as fishing with him.
DP
Hey Hillbilly Rock, I have an Eagle Ultra Classic. No problem seeing brush. I'll bet that you are using your's with the fish ID on. Every time that I power mine up I hit the down arrow ,I believe it is, to disable the fish ID feature.
This allows brushpiles to show as clumps of brush and fish to show as arches.
With the fish ID on a lot of brush shows up as several fish symbols. Hope this helps!:)
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Great picks bandit :D yeah we have exactly the same unit, i will try what you are talking about.
I just got a new ''Cuda 242'' made by Eagle. It's great deal for the price .Shows stakebeds well and has built in temp gauge. Has lots of features that used to come with higher priced models. Got it at Academy Sports for 87.63 + tax.:cool:
i thought about picking one of those up too. Bass Pro has them on sale right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by NIMROD
Slabbandit, looks like you have worn out your fishing partner. lol
Yea 1weezer, It doesn't take her long to find a spot to sun. She knows when that trolling motor comes up though it's time to go.:)
remeber this,the more pixeles + more power = greater detail at the bottom.