I've never seen this before. Some type of birthmark? It's even on his top lip a bit.
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I've never seen this before. Some type of birthmark? It's even on his top lip a bit.
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Black Nose Crappie I'd guess.
Black Nose Crappie: Everything You Need To Know • Panfish Nation
As said…black nose. Started stocking them in Old Hickory about a year or so back. Make the short drive up to Center Hill and you can see just how big black nose get. Center Hill has had them for about 32 years. I think all but one these are black nose…Caught out of Center Hill. Attachment 447352
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I’ve caught a few with the black strip, but I just learned something new about it being a Black nose. Never to old to learn something new.
Hey thanks everybody on the identification.
And this was Old Hickory Lake.
Black nose or also called a magnolia crappie.
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They are handsome little devils
Actually, TB ... a Blacknose Black Crappie is a naturally occurring member of the Crappie family, while a Magnolia Crappie is a lab created hybrid (Blacknose male x White Crappie female). Blacknose are native to over 20 states, and have been stocked in certain waters of many other states. The Magnolia Crappie is only stocked in small waters of the Magnolia State (Mississippi) as a "put & take" resource, considering the fact that the Magnolia Crappie are (for the most part) sterile and won't overpopulate the smaller state & state park waters. ( https://www.mdwfp.com/media/302409/magnolia-crappie.pdf )Quote:
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Blacknose Black Crappie are just a Black Crappie with a color variation (genetics) lending to the black stripe. That stripe can run from the dorsal fin all the way to the underside of the lower lip. And since Blacknose Black Crappie can & do sometimes crossbreed in the wild with White Crappie, there can be instances where that black stripe occasionally does occur on the White Crappie offspring.
That's the way to dial it in for us Sir CrappiePappy. I catch them all the time in our rivers but never considered they were not the MDWFP's fish. Too much other stuff to try to keep straight.
"Rhodesian Crappie Ridgeback"?. My Canine Pun.........
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Wow thanks for sharing that. I enjoy learning new things about these fish. Now I know when I catch one it’s just identified as a black nose.Quote:
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Actually a Magnolia is referring to a hybrid of white and blacknose in which eggs pressured in a lab to create a triploid . Just like they do Grass Carp . Only state I know of doing this is Mississippi the rest just plain hybridsQuote:
Originally Posted by TBass89
Thanks for clearing that up for me. Definitely learned something new tonight.Quote:
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Yeah .... we've been through this discussion several times over the years. Even I was (sadly) misinformed at the beginning, but kept researching until I got more "informed".Quote:
Originally Posted by TBass89
First time I ever encountered one of these critters was several decades ago, down at Watts Bar Res. in East Tenn. It was referred to as a "Arkansas Blacknose" back then, from their discovery in a small section of the White River. But, upon further research, I learned they were discovered in other state's waters well prior to that.
There's still disagreement between biologists as to whether or not the coloration gene is dominant or recessive, not to mention that they really don't know what prompted the coloration or what benefit it provides.
Some biologists have stated that it's no different than a regular Black Crappie, other than the pigmentation stripe, and they don't fight any harder than a regular Black Crappie (of the same size). I'll have to agree to disagree with them on that point, as I've been known to call "it's a Blacknose", prior to seeing the fish, having caught quite a few of them from the waters of Watts Bar Res. Not to mention the fact that they're the only Crappie I've ever hooked that have jumped completely out of the water upon being hooked. I've had that experience at least 3 times, and one even jumped clear over the bow of my buds Tracker TX17 and landed a good 6ft from the boat. And I was using an UL & 4# line, so I know I didn't jerk the fish out from 6ft deep on one side of the boat to 6ft away from the other side of the boat with that equipment. nonono Besides, that fish gave me a "instant slack" type of bite when I was Vertical Casting a blowdown, so I knew I didn't have to do a "breakneck" hookset knowing the fish had the jig in his mouth.
We call them Mohawk crappie, they thump like a whale crappie most of the time.
Like stated earlier originally called Arkansas black nosed back when.
There are several versions of them that have been hybridized
Some naturally and some in labs
There are even a very few we seen that are white crappie with the stripe too , obviously done via Mother Nature and some confusion on who needs to be where when they spawn.
And why some are dark and striped and some are light and striped who knows, seen chocolate stripes and el marko black striped and so forth .
I call it a racing stripe or black nose.
For years all I’ve used is UL gear and 2# test line. Getting into black nose with UL gear is more fun than the law should allow. For decades I’ve lost count of the people who have talked about how they fight harder. I don’t have a final answer on that yet. I have landed, best I remember, around 11 crappie at the 3 pound mark. I think 10 of them were black nose. I have never caught a black crappie in TN over 14.5 inches…..yet I’ve caught a lot of black nose between 15-16 inches. Some of that has to do with the waters I was fishing….black nose being the most abundant crappie in that body of water….Normandy….Dale Hollow….Center Hill. The point is I could say black nose fight harder…and they may do so….but they are just heavy fish. And yes as has been said they will jump. As my late nephew would remark when we got into jumping black nose…they think they are bass…LOL. I found some pics of nice size fish that you can clearly see the stripe running down their back. There is an si unit on that kayak. Yet I did not use it that day. As I was paddling out of a bay I just looked down in the clear waters of Center Hill and saw this huge school of them…you could clearly see the stripe at 6 feet of depth. I stopped and proceed to stick 60 of them. Best I remember all 12-14 inches. Sometimes it’s just better to be lucky. Now a days the hatchery at Normandy raises hundreds of thousands of black nose to stock in TN lakes. What started out 32 years ago as an experiment has become a hugely successful program. Attachment 447374Attachment 447375Attachment 447376
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Had a few of them tail walk like a bass. Certainly not typical crappie behavior
There were some before they started breeding them to stock as hybrid in lakes .Quote:
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The Whites may actually be hybrids of a sort if they carry the black stripeQuote:
Originally Posted by Ketchn
about positive yes , my bud ketched one a few years back , most for sure a white crappie it seemed , but it also had a definitive stripe on it :donoQuote:
Originally Posted by NIMROD
it was cool looking but I never seen another one anywhere else .
i saw some they do for farm ponds here in Texas that are cool too , but cant remember what the cross was or the name
He is just supped up with a racing stripe!
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