Got Some Work To Do

Sometimes, you just need to catch a break. So, A while back I bought this Ebbtide Dyna-Trak 160 and brought it home. Then A battery got stole. I had to move it to a storage site. I wanted to raise the bunks up a bit, as at it's current height the motor skeg rests on the ground when on the trailer and in the vertical position. Well evidently, the lower seal was bad and water was in the lower unit. With momma's heart surgery, I didn't get a chance to check it/drain it before this big freeze. You got it, I now get to replace the lower unit...Now to find one for a 1973 Evinrude 65 HP Triumph...Just need a break. As soon as the weather breaks, I get to start on it...Will keep a running tab on it's progress. Oh yea, Momma dun named it too!!! Make sure you don't confuse the wording, please...My Dam Boat, as in dam on the lake...

I’ll help you search Eric. Hope your Xmas is a blessed one.

Thank you Buckeye. Merry Christmas to you and your family as well. I found the lower unit I need, and the man will hold it till I can get it first of Feb. This lower unit is a Hydro-shift unit, not too common and not cheap either. Will most probably need going through when I get it, before the install. I've been utilizing all the quite time (momma resting/healing), to scour youtube for any and all info I can find...While I'm waiting on the lower unit, I hope to replace the floatation foam and lower floor, go through everything that I can, I want this thing up and going come Missouri's Spring Fling get together in May...Of coarse their will be a couple shake down fishing trips before then...Merry Christmas to you all, Hope it's a good one, and thank you again.

Salvage what you can out of the old one gears etc. What’s the details on that Spring Fling?

Man you sure can’t seem to catch a break. Hope everything works out fine and you’re on the water like planned soon.

Missouri Crappie.Com get together every year at Bucksaw Marina and Campgrounds. First weekend in May. Most everyone reserves a site on loop A. Friday evening is like potluck and Saturday is fishfry...from what I understand. Trying to get to my first one this year. Hopefully I'll have better luck than the last couple years when unfortunately something has came up last minute and I wasn't able to go...Sure praying I make it this year.

I got bit in the butt on a hydro shift a few years ago when I was starting back


Seems I rember somebody welding one up.
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there is a person on iboats who was telling me my motor can be changed to a mechanical shift by buying a late '75- to '88 mechanical shift lower unit, shift linkage, and the block shift lever. but If this has been done, I sure can't find reference to it anywhere...

Well heck, Just got a message from the man with the lower unit. Said someone offered twice what he was going to sell to me for and it's gone, so I'm back at square one. I'll get some money put back and then find me a lower unit...

What broke in your lower unit?

Evidently when I bought it there was water in the oil. before I could get to service it my better half had open heart surgery which delayed servicing it even more. then the weather turned south and freezing. Now II have a crack about 5 inches long on the propeller end extending forward toward the cone. It's an hydro-mechanical unit. no shift rod, electrical wire instead. this can be changed to a mechanical unit by getting a newer lower unit from a three cylinder Evinrude, Johnson, OMC from 1974 through 1988. A shift mechanism has to be installed also so the shift rod will have something to connect to also. Momma is doing better and I don't have to be here all the time now, so When this weather breaks I can start working on the boat. Just need things to fall in order so I can get it done.
Being on Social Security, and Va Disability makes money a little tight, but I am a persistant, hard headed cuss, and this will get fixed. It's just when.

Can it be welded back together? I’m sure there is someone who can do it for some horse tradin.


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It's thin pot metal. It's possible, maybe. But just faster to replace it. I have an old fastwin 18 that a fin broke on. I payed for someone here that was said to be a great welder. Well, I'm not a welder, but that looked like a 2y/o did it. and considering a bearing sleave goes on the inside, I'd just rather replace this part...
I just rewatched a video on this. I was wwwrrrr, not right. It's not bearing surfaces inside as much as on O-ring on the bearing carrier. If it's not perfectly round, then no seal as the O-ring is thin like spaghetti, and heat applied to that pot metal will egg shape it. I had thought of brazzing it myself...

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It's thin pot metal. It's possible, maybe. But just faster to replace it. I have an old fastwin 18 that a fin broke on. I payed for someone here that was said to be a great welder. Well, I'm not a welder, but that looked like a 2y/o did it. and considering a bearing sleave goes on the inside, I'd just rather replace this part...
I just rewatched a video on this. I was wwwrrrr, not right. It's not bearing surfaces inside as much as on O-ring on the bearing carrier. If it's not perfectly round, then no seal as the O-ring is thin like spaghetti, and heat applied to that pot metal will egg shape it. I had thought of brazzing it myself...

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That's what I was thinking, you could weld it back together, but getting it straight and round would be next to impossible.

Alternatively, if all else fails, you may be able to get a new housing and swap the guts from yours into it. Would likely require reshimming though.

I won't know what shape the internals are in until I get some warmer weather so I can get the lower unit off. It's in an outside slot at a secure storage slot, covered. None available large enough to put boat and trailer in. Outside temp is 11 with a wind chill of 1 degree. Too cold for me. My old joints don't handle the cold like they used too!!!
Seeing's how I haven't been able to drain the lower unit, I don't know how much water was in it, nor how long the water was in there. Won't know for a while.

Yea to make it right probably need some machining on the inside to true up the surfaces.


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Yea to make it right probably need some machining on the inside to true up the surfaces.


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And with the cost of machining here, it will probably be cheaper to get a good used lower unit. I found some on fleabay. Lower end they'er $200, and up from there. I did find a place that deals in used outboard parts on a facebook page, that said he had a good unit, had been inspected tested, pressure tested, and he would ship it for $465...It's just will he have it when I get the cash...I think even though it's more money, I shouldn't have to go through it.

I got over to the storage unit today for a couple minute's. Seeing how we've had a couple semi warm days since it snowed, then the wind tried to relocate Springfield into the next county, I thought I would go and check on it. I found a small amount of water on top of the tarp I covered it with. Got rid of that, then pulled the engine cover to check a coupl of things.1 was to check the shift mechanism, 2 pull the plugs, and three drain the lower unit. I also wanted to pull the plugs and look at them.
Well, I did get the shift mechanism looked at. It's been converted to a mechanical shift lower already...see pic. However, the rest had to wait for a bit as momma called, and I had to run home to help her. I did, however, notice what I believe is the juice from a coil dripped down on the cover on the motor side. Not good. Soon, I'll need to be taking the flywheel off to get to that. I got the tools and catch pan for the oil in the back of the jeep, so I got it when I get back over their again.
First pic is the shift mechanism. Looks totally mechanical to me. And the others is the drip...Attachment 445763Attachment 445764Attachment 445765

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One thing that is going to help me out immensely is I went on line and found an Evinrude repair and service manual for this outboard. It's a printable PDF file of almost 500 pages. So it looks like I need to get me some ink, a reem of copy paper, some document protectors, and a couple three ring binders. This way I'll have something to direct me when working on the boat...

That will come in handy. You’ll get it figured out and running again.

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That will come in handy. You’ll get it figured out and running again.

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Thank you for the vote of confidence...LOL

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One thing that is going to help me out immensely is I went on line and found an Evinrude repair and service manual for this outboard. It's a printable PDF file of almost 500 pages. So it looks like I need to get me some ink, a reem of copy paper, some document protectors, and a couple three ring binders. This way I'll have something to direct me when working on the boat...

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I save them on my phone or iPad/computer. And just print relevant pages. Also you can search the digital copy for words/phrases and find the page number then look up in your “book”(bu see).


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I'm too hard on phones. I usually break them at least once a year. I have it saved to my computer, and hopefully soon to a hard drive/ flash drive, but print works better for me. I'm not real good with these electronic devices to start with, truth be told. So I'll print it out, put it in document protectors and I'll have it.

my brother in law had the same problem. frozen and busted lower unit. he found a shop that welded the case back together . said it looked like brand new and worked fine.

Welded automotive transmissions back together. No reason a lower unit can't be done as well.

There’s places that can weld,rebuild and paint them and they will look brand new.

There’s places that can weld,rebuild and paint them and they will look brand new.