Can you use livescope as a searching tool also, while running you big motor, of course at a idle speed using your pole in the water to search for crappie. Lots of variables here, so just asking. Anyone do this?
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Can you use livescope as a searching tool also, while running you big motor, of course at a idle speed using your pole in the water to search for crappie. Lots of variables here, so just asking. Anyone do this?
Seems like it would be too fast even at idle to me and I'd be afraid of catching it on something and tearing off the 1K+ ducer!
Even on TM speed 5 or 6, my LS pole vibrates and wants to move back from water pushing it- and I have a very sturdy mount. I wouldn't do it with your main motor at all.
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The cone angle is so narrow that I don't think it would be very effective as a scanning tool.
Short answer is wouldn’t recommend it.
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I sometimes search open water for roaming fish at 60-70 feet.
Ultrex cranked up on 10.
Again let me stress…open water…
Wouldn’t recommend this to many.
Brakes on rear is helpful and mine will be installed soon. Just been lazy.
My transducer is mounted parallel with my trolling motor shaft on a Turret.
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Maybe in perspective mode? And on a real stiff pole.
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I routinely run the trolling motor on max speed with livescope in forward facing and set to look out about 55 ft. I have my partner sweep with it looking for structure or fish. Found alot of single laydowns with fish on them the last couple weeks doing that .
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So it can be done, but not many seem to use it that way.
Does anyone here run in FORWARD viewing mode? I think that is the setting for searching, isn't it?
With my bicycle repair stand that i have my pole in i did tighten it up to test to see how it held with the motor idling just in case & it doesn't move so
I'm sure i could search in forward or perspective mode either one. I always search with side imaging though so never really tried it with livescope but may try it this weekend if i get to go just to see how i like it.
I've done it a few times, just not as a normal matter of course. My LS tdx is mounted on the trolling motor shaft. I believe my boat goes about 2.5mph at idle speed. I have my partner run the big motor at idle, while I scan/sweep with the trolling motor. I usually have the distance set at 40ft out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny Lang
I haven't done it, but I can see where tightening the screw in the foot pedal down to basically hold the position of the tdx to one side could be used to make the LS act as a one sided SV as I idle down a bank or row of boat docks. (note: I do not have a tdx for my Garmin 93sv unit)
That is pretty cool that you have real-world experience using forward mode.Quote:
Originally Posted by zummy
Does the image look like what they show in the advertisements? Like a map of the bottom?
I think it said 135 degrees wide in forward, but what is the angle up and down? 20 degrees, like the regular?
In what kind of depth will it show bottom?
Is it mostly for shallow water?
Very curious. Thanks for sharing.
is this done with your transducer mounted on your trolling motor shaft, or on a pole, if pole what kind.Quote:
Originally Posted by zummy
He says he "has his partner sweep with it looking for structure", so it sounds like it's on a pole, but I am very curious about this too.
I can say from my experience running my Ultrex on 10 you can’t see much at 50-70 ft looking forward.
Only marks. Then slowing way down letting off trolling motor and running forward view back as you approach the marks. Like my previous post. Open water.
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Yeah, when I'm running the TM and searching with the distance setting at 40-50ft out, schools of fish or brushpiles show up as //// or ""'" marks. They get more defined as they get closer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck Adams
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This is the place I bought the mount from. Typically when you first find something you can't necessarily tell immediately what it is but as you close the distance you can tell that it is say a single laydown with fish. If you look at my thread titled "A good morning" you can see a pile we found scanning and the pile of fish that were on it as we closed the distance.
I pulled the page, and those look good. If I can't make something I'm happy with, I might look into getting one. Less time trying to figure out how to make something and more time actually fishing. Thanks for the link.Quote:
Originally Posted by zummy
I may get out this weekend if I can get over the flu. If I do I'll try and remember to shoot some video for you folks.
Chuck Adams - I have to ask what do you have in mind for brakes? Transom mounted Trolling motor?
Tom,Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom 513
That’s affirmative but 2 trolling motors.
Both on stern.. port and starboard
I have everything I need for install.
Just can’t stay off the water long enough to run the wiring to front for on off pedal switch.
Prop wash really spooks the fish from my Ultrex and also when chasing open water fish I will be able to stop or really slow down using the rear motors.
I need all the help I can get.
Lakes I fish are really clear compared to other areas of the USA.
At least that’s my plan!! Lol
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Believe it or not there is a company making a bracket or something that mounts the trolling motors to power poles.
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Crappie Brakes in Batesville, MS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck Adams
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I've seen those on YouTube down south. I guess the poles are good for shallow, the pair of trolling motors for deeper water?
Poles are to anchor the boat. But with TM attached it’s just easy way to deploy and raise them at the push of a button. But they have some flex to them. But I don’t think you can anchor the boat with the poles with tm installed. Plus the poles going down to stop you is like a stopping you with a stick. It’s going to drag a bit before digging in and then boat will spring back and rock back and forth a bit. So if you could stop right on then spring back and be too far for your pole length. Then you’d have pull them up a bit move forward a bit and re-anchor with them. And then some have the paddles on the poles to help control drift speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by thill
Ones I installed you have to manually lower into water. There’s a stomp switch to turn them on/off.
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Wasnt this the whole idea of perspective mount?
My pole would bent backwards at 5mph. Even at 1.5-2 she is vibrating and moving. You would need to have someone turning the pole as you drive, scanning for marks.
And that is why I used an aluminum pole for my setup. It doesn't bend or move very much at all, at least not at the speeds my trolling motor can attain. The PVC wasn't bad, but this is much better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin22
Of course, a trolling motor mount would probably be best at speed
Not sure I understand the questionQuote:
Originally Posted by Kevin22
Perspective mount allows the transducer to be rotated up and sideways to give you a perspective view.
I personally didn’t care for it but I guess it is up to the user and method of fishing.
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I have an alum 3/4" pole.Quote:
Originally Posted by thill
I almost went that route but then decided that a boat hook pole would be perfect, so I used that. Fits perfectly in the Minn Kota bracket, too. It is much more rigid than the 3/4" pole I have. Besides the larger diameter, I think it's a harder alloy, too. You can't bend that thing, at least not easily.
Finally bought me a piece of 1 inch pvc and a thicker one two go on the outside of it, I think it’s a 1 1/4, put it together and did not like that setup to flimsy, so I went to ace hardware looked there and found a 3/4 inch aluminum pole 8 ft long and the piece of 1 1/4 pvc fit like a glove and rigid, where I fish here in Georgia is open water so no worries there, looks like this is the pole for me very rigid and that’s what I was looking for.
Smart! That sounds like a good combination.
I wasn't thrilled with the 1" PVC either, and also ended up with aluminum. It works very well. Doesn't move even at top trolling motor speed.
thanks thill, I like it lot’s better myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by thill
Thill what battery did you finally come up with, I used to live there in Virginia, in April I retired and lived in Amelia Va, then moved to Georgia, weather is a lot better here, especially for fishing. Oh and none of that white stuff that falls from the sky, is not here. SNOW I hate that stuff, too much work, if you have to leave every morning to go to work before 5am and uphill on your driveway. But still miss Virginia in some ways.
Danny Lang,
Congrats on the retirement and the move to GA! I hope you are really enjoying it. My buddy just moved near Myrtle beach on the NC side and he loves it and has me thinking about it. It's 19 degrees here and 41 there. He says they average 2" of snow per winter, but it rarely sticks.
What I am currently using are (2) 9 AH batteries wired to 24V. Here are the batteries, they are $24 each: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00K8V2Y8W
I might move up to the 20AH version if these ever wear out: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09H1XRPYY/
I'm happy with the setup. They are small and light. I ran livescope for 3 hours and 2 minutes today. Voltage started out at 25.6 volts. I fell asleep, and just went out to recharge. After sitting in 19 degree temps, they just tested at 24.6 volts. Not bad, for being that cold.
It may be my imagination, but the livescope seemed more sensitive and accurate in the 24V configuration. I could see everything, including a 1/16 ounce hair jig. I'm thrilled. Here are some images:
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Those were schools of crappie. I was able to cast to them and watch my jig drop and caught maybe 10 or 12 of them. Not big, mostly around 9", but getting time under my belt was good.
I picked up my nephews at the ramp after school and went back out. Due to time, we just fished the bridge. What was cool is we could see exactly which pilings had fish on them and how deep to fish. They were thrilled to watch their jigs go down, and they both caught a number of fish. They absolutely loved it.
As everyone says, Livescope really is a game changer.
Oh, and I ran the livescope under engine power, at fast idle, and the mount was solid, and I got good images even at that speed. That's how I knew to fish the bridge with the kids. I scanned it as I went by and saw the fish 50' away as I went under the bridge.
If you’re running 24 V configuration why is your monitor only showing 11.9 VQuote:
Originally Posted by thill
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I wondered that same thing, but didn’t want to say it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pondfisher42
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Now that is a VERY curious question!
Wait... I know the answer. The Livescope has its own batteries. The 93SV is on the starting battery. Even so, what's up with 11.9V? I know it's a hot battery and should be reading 12.8V or somewhere around there.
I need to check the electrical connections for tightness and corrosion. Thanks for noticing. I appreciate the heads-up.
Well, I went out to check voltage, and the battery was at 12.0V.
So either my battery is dying or my charging system is having issues. I put a charger on the battery. If it charges properly and holds charge, will need to bring an extra battery and check voltage while the engine is running.
Again, thanks for the sharp eyes.