It seems like i miss alot of good bites sometimes . does the distance from hook to split shots affect the hook set? iI try and have mine around 8 inchs up from the hook. LMK thanks
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It seems like i miss alot of good bites sometimes . does the distance from hook to split shots affect the hook set? iI try and have mine around 8 inchs up from the hook. LMK thanks
The best minnow guys I ever seen have the split shot within an inch or so of the hook ,not sure since I never use minnows
If it's 8 inches from the hook that allows the fish to lift up 8 inches before it flattens the cork. But if you seeing the bite I guess it's going under. Maybe try going to a jighead. It is possible you have too much slack in your line. Maybe try a longer rod that helps with the slack or be diligent with keeping contact with the bobber.
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Slack in line causes issues when fishing deep . Fish will blow the bait out and you better be watching the line . I can see a similarity of a strike if the fish is already swimming away with the bait . Creates a curve at the weight . I would also try a jig or put weight close to the hook . CatchNgrease and Ketchn are spot on . jmo
i almost always use a 10ft jiggen rod and have used 12footers i like to do a side sweeping hookset that works well most of the time but somedays i have a tuff time and wonder if its my setup?
In a couple of inches of hook set the fish is either caught or not.
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Use a cork that will fall over with a "lift" bite. Catch rate will at least double. I like the little orange styrofoam round bobbers with the yellow spring loaded plastic stem. Used with a 1/16 oz. jig head they will pop up a little and the bright yellow stem will lay over indicating a lift bite. Set the hook now! Important not to use any sinkers with this rig. Jighead and bobber only.
I read thru the Sages posts before commenting as I teach my crew to let the cork go completely under, where the fish is swimming off, then set the hook fishing live shiners. If you pull while the cork is going under you miss 2/3rds of the fish with the hook. The video I recently posted shows the Outdoor Writer pulling the hooks on Crappie numerous times as he tries to set the hook too soon. Wait just a little bit, let the fish go with live bait.
P.S. my split is 6-8 inches from my hook always. If I don't want a frisky shiner I lightly thump it in the head before hooking. You would not believe the big fish you catch using a "Thumped" shiner.
Last time I used minners, over half of them were 1" long and the others were 2.5" long. Both worked equally well. Then we got close to the last of them & started having to use dead ones ... and to my surprise, they worked just as well. I say "surprise", but I should have known they'd work, because I've used dead Shad & Silversides cut in half and caught Crappie on them just as fast as on live ones.Quote:
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News flash . A frozen cricket will catch fish as good as a live one . Never throw them in the water to end a trip . Put the in a Styrofoam cup with nothing but air and freeze .Quote:
Originally Posted by CrappiePappy
Not sure what setup is normal used. I recently found this with a heavier weight down to swivel and it has helped hookups. Attachment 436234
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much smaller float , large floats offer to much resistance and fish "feel" the pressure as they try to take it down .
light biting fish will be spitting it out as you see the bite and hence the miss ,,,,,for sure my friend .
I was wondering, can you cast very far with those jigging rods?Quote:
Originally Posted by impdog
Thanks
Closer to hook the more the sinker can help getting unhung.
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I use Mr Crappie's 2.5in slip float with BPS #7 oval split. The balance is so perfect a frisky shiner can almost pull it down. Here we can not down size on either as the decaying vegetation sludge accumulates on the line. A lighter weight will not pull the line thru the float line guide. So a larger float is needed to maintain the balance. Another thing, no hardware, no slip weights, no swivels etc. I put a green bead and rubber bobber stop below the float but above the weight. It helps to keep the float on the line when the weight or hooks causes the line to break.
do you put the bobber stop above or below the bead?(under the float)
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Originally Posted by rojoguio
It would go below in rojoguio’s example I believe
I use 2 per pole, one above the Mr Crappie float (no Bead needed Mr Crappie Slip Floats have a insert in the top), then the float, then a green bead (I won't use any other color OCD), another Bobber Stopper (mostly buy the small size Eagle Claw ones), then the weight, lastly a Octopus Red Hook #4 mostly. If I'm swinging under tree limbs I slide the bottom bead and stopper close to the weight so the length of the entire rig is short, makes it easier to swing under something (or cast). Otherwise the bottom stopper is 12-18 inches above the weight.
I prefer my lead weights to be 12"-15" from the minnow. I like a lively minnow. I want the minnow to swim around and attract the fish. The bobber should be neutrally buoyant. Thus the fish will move teh bobber around. All that action will draw in fish.
Couple of things.
If the line if going slack, your fishing too deep. You should be fishing above the fish so they pull it down.
If you have slack between your bobber and the rod tip, you waste too much time reeling in line before setting the hook, possible missing the bite.
Last thing, set the hook and maintain a tight line. Fish can shake a lure on a slack line.
Hanr3, has good advice. I didn't mention that I hold my line in my opposite hand to keep the line slack out.
I place an extra bobber stop below the float in hopes that if I break off the float stays on the line. And if I need to fish it fixed I just sandwich the float....but I keep bobbers as a last ditch effort to catch fish....
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I like that idea. Slip float, bead, another bobber stop, lead weight. I use light wire hooks and prefer to snap them off, or straighten them out. However, sometimes I break off above the weight and loose the bobber too. I usually spend the time retrieving the bobber as I leave that spot.Quote:
Originally Posted by rojoguio
Here are pictures of my rig. Also is a picture from yesterday's box. I read elsewhere how tough the fishing was yesterday but this rig with my black back shiners put enough tacos in my box to practice taco making from all the guys' posts in Cooking Crappie.
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Awesomeness
If you don't use the bead the bobber stopper sticks inside the float stick. I just like Wally Marshall and use most of his products. They work. The Alligators here are attracted to the colors though.
I made a mistake on the BPS XPS Clam Shot size and can't edit this post anymore. I need to correct the size is #4 - 1/10oz. I apologize for any problems this may have caused.Quote:
Originally Posted by rojoguio
no problem
I use as small of a slip bobber I can get away with and I do no want any weight between the bobber and the hook. I use a 1/16 live bait jig head I buy from Chuck and Deb. I like the slip floats from crappie magnet. I used the dog ear bobber stops and I place a little rubber bobber stop between the float and the jig head so I can get float back if I break off. This method detects bites much better and I don't have to worry about a minnow swimming in brush like the do when you use a split shot or egg sinker 6 or more inches from the hook.
Hey SB ... i think I know what your talking about on that type of slip float ... is this it??Quote:
Originally Posted by slabbandit
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