Half a seed?

Pumpkinseed that is! Yesterday after work I stopped by a little pond across town and fished for a about an hour using but a little split shot and couple flies hope to entice a few takes. Upond arriving I could not believe in just a few days between visits the vegetation had practically overtaken the entire surface but a few pockets of opportunities. Our local ponds was known to have bluegills, green sunfish and redear sunfish stocked long ago but I’ve never caught the latter. With this many species in such small confinement one wonder will there be hybrids to be caught? And I have, including yesterday’s colorful specimen. Total fish caught was 5 green sunfish, 3 little bluegills and the said cross- specie. All online searches point it toward a cross between pumpkinseed and green sunfish. I didn’t know or read there’s Pumpkinseed was introduced to Southern Nevada but have read they were caught in reservoir near Northern Nevada, Reno area. Any suggestions? Cheers!Attachment 435080
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Purty fish!

Nice looking pan. That water looks tough to fish.
Bob

Pretty little critter

Very cool catch, thanks for showing me. I’m mostly uneducated in hybrids.

green to gill is my guess , we have lots of them in these parts , highly variable in coloration , the key to a guess it what lives there in the first place , the assumption by many is the red gill flap makes it a red ear cross , this is not the case , my 27 cents on it ....

Fin shape and color is almost exactly like a green sunfish, and those spots on the side is for sure a pumpkinseed! I think you're right

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Originally Posted by Ketchn

green to gill is my guess , we have lots of them in these parts , highly variable in coloration , the key to a guess it what lives there in the first place , the assumption by many is the red gill flap makes it a red ear cross , this is not the case , my 27 cents on it ....

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I hope you r right Ketchn. Last thing I want is misidentify this fellow. Of course I’m basing it on an article by a supposedly freshwater authority for accuracy sakes.Attachment 435242


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Originally Posted by CTPanfisher

Fin shape and color is almost exactly like a green sunfish, and those spots on the side is for sure a pumpkinseed! I think you're right

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CTP, further search infact showed the pond where this fish was caught does or did hold Pumpkinseed sunfish. Now the challenge at hand is will I ever going to catch the source of origin dubbed by some as The most beautiful of ALL sunfishes!! I can only say the chase is on…lol.


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Originally Posted by LVSpinfisher1

CTP, further search infact showed the pond where this fish was caught does or did hold Pumpkinseed sunfish. Now the challenge at hand is will I ever going to catch the source of origin dubbed by some as The most beautiful of ALL sunfishes!! I can only say the chase is on…lol.


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I've caught 1 pumpkinseed so far, but I've seen so many (both big ones on beds and little 2-4 inch ones, of course, when I had my rod the beds were gone). They're native to my area, and surprisingly, bluegills are not. I've heard they get super aggressive during the spawn, even moreso than bluegills, and almost anything can catch them then. Good luck! Considering this one looks very much like mostly or 50/50 pumpkinseed seeing as the spots are so vibrant, I'd say that it's parent was pure, and you have a good shot.

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once again , that fish you managed looks EXACTLY like the same version we have here that are often misidentified as red ear crosses and for sure are not , without stirring the pot too much , that fish is most probably NOT a pumpkin seed cross .
greens cross with bluegill in these parts on just about every water body and way more so in ponds .
my bet is still green/bluegill cross ...just saying

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once again , that fish you managed looks EXACTLY like the same version we have here that are often misidentified as red ear crosses and for sure are not , without stirring the pot too much , that fish is most probably NOT a pumpkin seed cross .
greens cross with bluegill in these parts on just about every water body and way more so in ponds .
my bet is still green/bluegill cross ...just saying

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You probably right and it really doesn’t matter for they all really just sunfish. I’ve been fishing in these ponds around town for nearly 8 years, Ketchn and never have caught anything remotely resembling a true Pumpkinseed. But I’ve also seen bluegill-x-green that look very bland in coloration so I guess I’m pretty lucky to have caught a very attractive one.


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Originally Posted by LVSpinfisher1

You probably right and it really doesn’t matter for they all really just sunfish. I’ve been fishing in these ponds around town for nearly 8 years, Ketchn and never have caught anything remotely resembling a true Pumpkinseed. But I’ve also seen bluegill-x-green that look very bland in coloration so I guess I’m pretty lucky to have caught a very attractive one.


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My fishing buddy says there’re all brim . LOL !

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You probably right and it really doesn’t matter for they all really just sunfish. I’ve been fishing in these ponds around town for nearly 8 years, Ketchn and never have caught anything remotely resembling a true Pumpkinseed. But I’ve also seen bluegill-x-green that look very bland in coloration so I guess I’m pretty lucky to have caught a very attractive one.


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if it looks really bland it might be pure green , they sometimes have about zero going on in the color dept.
we have places that they say certain fish have been stocked and they seem to be totally nonexistent.
hybridized green/bluegills always seem to sport good coloration, btw

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if it looks really bland it might be pure green , they sometimes have about zero going on in the color dept.
we have places that they say certain fish have been stocked and they seem to be totally nonexistent.
hybridized green/bluegills always seem to sport good coloration, btw

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Good to know there’s hybrids to be found here in this neck of the woods. I read that they hard to occur naturally in the wild in many parts of the country unless introduced or stocked by wildlife management. Thanks again, I’m constantly learning more about sunfish species.


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