How quick fish will leave out when getting close when trying to livescope fish? They seem to be wild on Cumberland. :dono
Printable View
How quick fish will leave out when getting close when trying to livescope fish? They seem to be wild on Cumberland. :dono
I don't have live scope, I use Mega live. I was vertical jigging today in 8 ft of water and they didn't seem to care. That was with the trolling motor in spot lock also.
Sent from my SM-S215DL using Tapatalk
Interesting
I think it has to do with the frequency of the sonar beams with Garmin. I've heard other people mention this as well. For my use with mega live I don't seem to have the issue
Sent from my SM-S215DL using Tapatalk
So I believe it is the trolling motor. I witnessed this with fish on a very clear lake last spring. I was sight fishing giant schools of crappie and bluegills out deep along a weed line, and if I just let the boat drift over them I could fish right on top of them without any issues. If I even touched that trolling motor once, every fish within a good 10-15 yards of me instantly jumped and swam in every direction away from the boat for a little ways.
My buddy, slabeye, has seen that quite often at Cumberland .... sometimes not being able to get any closer to them than 20ft or more. And that's all he does is Livescope fish, even when fishing out of his buddy's boat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Les Young
I haven't fished Cumberland in some time, but on Taylorsville & Green I've been all over top of them with the trolling motor and they haven't shied away from it or my Livescope. I've even tied off to a tree at Taylorsville and fished another tree, not 10ft away, and kept the Livescope trained on that tree ... and still caught fish.
Only difference I can think of is the Cumberland Crappie slabeye & his buddy are catching are mostly Black Crappie. :dono
Pappy thanks. I’m glad I’m not the only one who’s noticed this. I’d be thinking it was just me not knowing what I’m doing.Which I don’t. :biggrin
I noticed the crappie running as well. I got a livescope just recently and have learned that I was scaring fish off structure and probably not catching as meany as I could have going stealth or pitching to them. I used to roll right up above the structure and start fishing, I always caught fish but I definitely catch more staying back. Now I hang back and cast to them and then move up closer. Fish say at 20ft deep don’t seem to mind but fish at 10ft definitely seem to spook off my boat if I come in to fast or loud.
Sent from my iPhone using Crappie.com
I would think this will get worse as the fish are pressured and targeted more
I’d say you’re right about that. Funny thing is they say on lakes like Green & Taylor you can get right over top of them & the crappie on both of them definitely have a lot of pressure on them.Quote:
Originally Posted by DockShootinJack
Maybe the fish get conditioned to more boat traffic and boats…they get used to the boats so not as scared?
I fish all the same brush piles I found when I only had side scan but can now see the fish in them better and see the brush from further away to see what they are doing or if they run as I approach. I noticed water chop and depth are a big factor on whether the fish notice I am there and run or can’t tell I am there.
Might also just be conditions or what kind of mood they are in? I do know that I must have scared a lot of fish in the past when I did t know I was doing it.
Sent from my iPhone using Crappie.com
When water is calm my TM will scare off crappie down to about 12' and about 10-15' before I get to them. Tactic i use when calm is to stop 20'+ and cast to them. With some chop they do not seem to be bothered and I can get on top of them. My LS is not spooking them. My water on Lake Conroe is not heavy stained in sections I fish.
:ThumbsUp
One of the lakes I fish Crappie in the spring once Ice out happens they spook easily with a boat as summer goes on and more boats come out they don`t seem to mind. Just walking on the ice will move Crappies as I have noticed using Mega 360 on the ice, then it seems to depend on conditions. it has to be dead quiet under that ice, especially with a good snow cover so any sound can affect them...
IMHO .... there's just too many things that can spook fish to blame it all on TM noise or LS pings. Fish can see, feel, & sense things in their world that can set them off ... even when our boat, TM, shadow, pings, wave slap, or dropped item vibrations aren't even present.
I also think that fish can get accustomed to such noises, and absent other factors don't always react negatively. I've seen people ram a pontoon into a standing tree, big motor running, then tie up to that tree and fling out half a dozen or more bobber/minner rigs and proceed to catch fish. I've seen cases where kids are swimming in front of a private dock, while the adults are fishing around it and catching fish. On more than one occasion I've had the TM & Depth Finder running in <5fow and caught Bass & Crappie within 5ft of the boat. I've trolled for Hybrid Stripers & Crappie, while boats were running in both directions by me, pulling skiers & tubers, just boat riding, or blasting down the lake to the next honey hole ... and caught fish.
Maybe they have been spooking all along, difference now is u can see them
Could just be the climate and the fish. Sunday, I located a brush pile in about 8 feet of water just outside of the marina at the end of a no wake zone right were everyone likes to lay the hammer down and get on plane. I spotlocked and vertically jigged some crappie with my mega live and they did not seem to care. Maybe there just used to getting propwash in there faces. Lucky for me it was early and no one else was coming by at the time.
Sent from my SM-S215DL using Tapatalk
I jumped on the Mega Live bandwagon in November and have spent a lot and I mean a lot of time on the water learning about the live view approach to fishing. I’ve caught bigger fish with this addition and love targeting those bigger marks and not chasing numbers.
Here is my .02 and what I’ve noticed since I’ve installed this upgrade.
I can target those schools of 10” fish all day long around brush piles and structure with no issues.
If the fish are deeper than 15’ I can vertical jig right over the top of them and only spook them with TM.
If a large and really good mark is scanned forward of the transducer at the 30-35’ distance, I can cast to them with no spooking.
If a large fish is marked within the 25’ distance and they are open water suspended, they will move away or drop to the bottom 7 out of 10 times. I’ve noticed this multiple times on my trips and have played with the sensitivity to turn down the signal strength. It did not make any noticeable difference.
If a large slab is nosed up on a tree, I can cast to them if the tree is between me and the fish.
If the fish is on the side, it will relocated to the back of the tree to get out of the ping of the transducer or has simply dropped off the tree and leave or drop to the bottom.
Now, I’m not bashing this brand and just simply stating my opinion. But it has been so noticeable that I’m currently installing the Garmin LS and it’s not what I wanted to do since all three of my graphs are Humminbird Helix.
You are probably right. I got Garmin Livescope earlier in the year. I did some long lining with the transducer facing forward. I noticed fish would dive to the bottom when I got somewhere between about 10 to 20 ft of them. I just assumed it probably was happening before as they hear or see the boat and trolling motor. I did not think about the LS affecting them, but I guess it is possible. I can't think of any way to know since you need the LS to see them.Quote:
Originally Posted by brush pile
Find them with your Livescope and watch them from afar as a buddy without Livescope goes towards them.Quote:
Originally Posted by MidHillbilly
Sent from my SM-T500 using Crappie.com Fishing mobile app