Laughable "pros"

So we have this here local fella , been chasing crappie a while , actually "guides" people for $ and has a fair amount of followers , own youtube channel and comes across as knowledgeable and sharing .
Do know he gets lots of "tips" from the actual local pro fellas on the downlow inside scoop type a thing, to keep him on fish basically is what I can see pretty clearly .
Don't really know him in person , but he is liked in the crappie community locally . Likes to give his 2.1 cents if a novice asks a question on various social media platforms .
So yesterday the question on a crappie page from one who apparently knows very little about crappie ketchn was this ......
"What will this 50 degree drop in temperature in less than 12 hours with this reverse wind and hard frontal push do to the bite "?
yeppers here it comes .....
In what appears to be a very well educated response he goes on to say this about that ....
" No worries it shouldn't change the bite much this fast , the water didn't have time to get colder yet " !
Of course he showed his hand to anyone that does have a clue , but in the end imagine all those that think that actually might be the case .
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KABOOM is the word for sure :Cowboy
p.s. the moral of this story is this , careful with what you think is the truth and who you take advice from on the social media how to ketch a crappie feeds ....
tip of the week ....:highfive

The old man always says believe half of what ya see and none of what ya hear.

Good post! You could highlight from p.s to social media and apply it to everything, eh?

Ah, what are ya going to do, ketch? As you say, be careful of what you hear. BTW, that was a pretty to the point question that guy asked….just wondering if there was a test being given.:dono
Bob

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Originally Posted by MCG1

Good post! You could highlight from p.s to social media and apply it to everything, eh?

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no doubt

Very true! Snopes is an online necessity for most of the emails I get....lol.

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Originally Posted by BobC

Ah, what are ya going to do, ketch? As you say, be careful of what you hear. BTW, that was a pretty to the point question that guy asked….just wondering if there was a test being given.:dono
Bob

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I answered the question as well , of course it was straight to the point on my thoughts and I didn't take a jab at the "pro" , but in the end what a totally clueless answer his was for sure ....:banghead

What exactly will happen to the bite? I still have alot to learn about crappie ketchn. I'm in Southeast Alabama and was planning on going Sunday but the weather is supposed to turn off cold. I'd rather know before I go in this case especially when you getting 10 1/2 miles to the gallon pulling a boat and it's an hour and 15 minute drive to the lake LOL.If It's going to turn off the bite and send the fish into deeper water, might be one of those weekends to do honeydoos.

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Originally Posted by huntersdad

What exactly will happen to the bite? I still have alot to learn about crappie ketchn. I'm in Southeast Alabama and was planning on going Sunday but the weather is supposed to turn off cold. I'd rather know before I go in this case especially when you getting 10 1/2 miles to the gallon pulling a boat and it's an hour and 15 minute drive to the lake LOL.If It's going to turn off the bite and send the fish into deeper water, might be one of those weekends to do honeydoos.

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The bite will almost always slack way up right behind a front. In my area when I have North or North East wind they are harder to catch.
I proved what I already know just yesterday…. Only caught 6 fish ( after cold front ) The day before the front I caught 36 fish Over a 4 hr. Stretch both days.



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theysaid, Crappie.Com is my only “social media”.

Here's the thing. He's not wrong. One thing Livescope and other forward facing/live sonar has shown is they usually DO bite, they just aren't usually where they were yesterday. People fish memories and yesterday's fish. I used to think it would shut them down to, and to a degree, it might/can/does, but more often than not, they're just not where they were yesterday and/or don't want to see the same thing they saw yesterday presented the same way it was "yesterday", before the cold. More often than not, SOMEONE will catch them, and that someone is the one that changed up what they were doing today, from what they were doing before the front.

That is one thing I noticed from Sunday's fishing trip, I looked in the shallow water areas they should have been in due to the water being 66 degrees. I ended up finding them going over the channel right in front of a spillway. The water was 26 ft deep and the crappie were 12-14 feet down.

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I long ago quit trying to figure fronts and such. I use the saying “ If you don’t go you won’t know”.

Regards


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Originally Posted by Alphahawk

I long ago quit trying to figure fronts and such. I use the saying “ If you don’t go you won’t know”.

Regards


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Lot of truth to that statement

Yep, haven’t caught one yet sitting on the couch. [emoji3][emoji106]


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Yep, haven’t caught one yet sitting on the couch. [emoji3][emoji106]


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Apparently, you've been using the wrong couch...Attachment 421097

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Originally Posted by Alphahawk

I long ago quit trying to figure fronts and such. I use the saying “ If you don’t go you won’t know”.

Regards


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:hesaid Yes, fish and learn.
Bob

I just do like Richard Gene the Fishing Machine and “go fishing when I can cause it’s good fer me!”…lol. Wooo

I'm sure it will effect some stages of fish more than others. Pretty sure I won't be there to know....brrr...but I'm pretty sure I'm going to keep eating....rofl

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I'm going to do my best to give it a shot this weekend. If I don't get a chance this weekend it may be a while because I have to have shoulder surgery and have to figure out a way to bait my hook and take a fish off one handed.

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Originally Posted by huntersdad

I'm going to do my best to give it a shot this weekend. If I don't get a chance this weekend it may be a while because I have to have shoulder surgery and have to figure out a way to bait my hook and take a fish off one handed.

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It is supposed to snow here Friday :banghead

Texas Ice fishing

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Originally Posted by Ketchn

It is supposed to snow here Friday :banghead

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Here in Missouri as well...Around 4" expected here in Springfield, More the further north on goes...

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Originally Posted by Ketchn

So we have this here local fella , been chasing crappie a while , actually "guides" people for $ and has a fair amount of followers , own youtube channel and comes across as knowledgeable and sharing .
Do know he gets lots of "tips" from the actual local pro fellas on the downlow inside scoop type a thing, to keep him on fish basically is what I can see pretty clearly .
Don't really know him in person , but he is liked in the crappie community locally . Likes to give his 2.1 cents if a novice asks a question on various social media platforms .
So yesterday the question on a crappie page from one who apparently knows very little about crappie ketchn was this ......
"What will this 50 degree drop in temperature in less than 12 hours with this reverse wind and hard frontal push do to the bite "?
yeppers here it comes .....
In what appears to be a very well educated response he goes on to say this about that ....
" No worries it shouldn't change the bite much this fast , the water didn't have time to get colder yet " !
Of course he showed his hand to anyone that does have a clue , but in the end imagine all those that think that actually might be the case .
:banghead:banghead:banghead
:Rofl:Rofl:Rofl:Rofl:Rofl:Rofl:Rofl
KABOOM is the word for sure :Cowboy
p.s. the moral of this story is this , careful with what you think is the truth and who you take advice from on the social media how to ketch a crappie feeds ....
tip of the week ....:highfive

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I used to think it could shut down the bite , It may push them down but put it in their face and still bite pretty good here .:ThumbsUp

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Originally Posted by NIMROD

I used to think it could shut down the bite , It may push them down but put it in their face and still bite pretty good here .:ThumbsUp

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I thought that a few hundred times myself , but to this day I found it ain't likely most of the time :Rofl
case in point was my injury visit at 2 honey holes , thought may as well try as I passed by , the bite was good "BEFORE" it came in .....
alas , only a bass , now mind you this my friend , they probably would bite if I knew where they went or had a rig to go find them , but in this case it wasn't meant to be .
we all know they eat constantly , but hard fronts tend to scatter early spring fish regularly and make it difficult to get on em more often than not .:highfive
it really comes down to this , advice and what the odds might be to find them stacked up and biting , a typical novice has little chance to hammer w/o the right advice .:highfive

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Originally Posted by NIMROD

I used to think it could shut down the bite , It may push them down but put it in their face and still bite pretty good here .:ThumbsUp

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EXACTLY...they didn't shut down, they just moved or changed their tolerance on how they want it

Snow here on Saturday and 13 degrees here Sunday morning

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Originally Posted by TreednNC

Here's the thing. He's not wrong. One thing Livescope and other forward facing/live sonar has shown is they usually DO bite, they just aren't usually where they were yesterday. People fish memories and yesterday's fish. I used to think it would shut them down to, and to a degree, it might/can/does, but more often than not, they're just not where they were yesterday and/or don't want to see the same thing they saw yesterday presented the same way it was "yesterday", before the cold. More often than not, SOMEONE will catch them, and that someone is the one that changed up what they were doing today, from what they were doing before the front.

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Originally Posted by NIMROD

I used to think it could shut down the bite , It may push them down but put it in their face and still bite pretty good here .:ThumbsUp

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Bingo x2.

Don’t know about y’all, but,,,if it snowed on me first thing in the morning, I hardly want to eat anything,, Brrrrrrr. Just give me some coffee!

I may not shut the fish down. But it is likely going to shut me down

Caught 125 Sunday 14 today they were buried. And I looked really good.

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Caught 125 Sunday 14 today they were buried. And I looked really good.

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this is the actual truth , those that say some kind of technology changes the fish habits are just trying to convince the world that fish behavior has been altered somehow thru the intro of advanced equipment .
been out there many times post front and seen it in person with lots of different technology including forward facing sonar , you will never find the magic silver bullet to kill the post front were wolf .....:Rofl:Rofl

Theyncan be hard to find at times.

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Originally Posted by Ketchn

this is the actual truth , those that say some kind of technology changes the fish habits are just trying to convince the world that fish behavior has been altered somehow thru the intro of advanced equipment .
been out there many times post front and seen it in person with lots of different technology including forward facing sonar , you will never find the magic silver bullet to kill the post front were wolf .....:Rofl:Rofl

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:help weird. Tell those post front fish that I had to catch in a different location, different color jig, or different location that they don't count then since they're not part of the actual truth :dono

So you're saying that the other's like NIMROD, DrNip, and myself that have found fishing doesn't suck as bad as we used to think it did after a front, before we got the tech to assist in refining things, aren't seeing the truth? The fish that we catch, that we likely did have to work harder to relocate, and figure out the new pattern on, are fake truths and not real truths? Got it :Rofl

It really doesn’t matter. People are entitled to their own opinions. I’ve had tough days fishing pre and post front as well as blue bird sky and just about every other excuse I can think of why I couldn’t catch them. Should’ve got minnows too! Just go fish.

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Originally Posted by DrNip

It really doesn’t matter. People are entitled to their own opinions. I’ve had tough days fishing pre and post front as well as blue bird sky and just about every other excuse I can think of why I couldn’t catch them. Should’ve got minnows too! Just go fish.

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you are so correct , it really doesn't matter and it is just one of those things , seen days myself where others were hammering and I wasn't .
the cause is typically due to you are not on cooperative fish and then of course there is that thing where about none of them are cooperative as well .
no worries , it bother me none one way or the other if someone takes my advice or not . the ways I ketch crappie are often quite different than the "tried and true " methods that more serious crappie anglers adhere too ...:highfive

One thing is for sure and that is that crappie eating habits change by the conditions,sometimes by the hour.Yesterdays trip had several schools of crappie go under my prehistoric electronics and to get one to take a jig was very difficult and nearly inpersevible when one did put it in thier months. Then less than an hour later one knocked two feet of slack in the line on a hit that had to come from several feet away.

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crappie are very unpredictable and they can be there in herds and totally refuse to cooperate on any level .
I once "chummed" them passer by fish you speak of , worked pretty well , every time a school passed I diced up some shad beside the boat ,the chum would hold them just long enough to ketch 1 or 2 before they moved again.
they were patrolling a dam and would show up for a minute or so and then move on following the bait shoals.
of course I was running old school electronics , but it wasn't tough to see what was going on and we were struggling to get bit .
we had cast netted some shad and they EVEN refused them ,but a jig in the chum slick worked out quite well ....:highfive