hook/jig turner

I need to make a hook turner for making basically weightless jigs. I tie the material on the hook, then put them in the turner to make the head out of either epoxy or hot glue. I have one I use but I can only do 2 hooks at a time and this works fine for hot glue but for epoxy it sucks mixing tiny amounts correctly and doing 2 at a time. I have seen the big wheels that turn jigs but that won't work, the jig hook has to turn in tight circles to prevent running.

Basically a block with gears that hold alligator clips to hold the hooks, like 8 or more at a time.

I have it designed, just can't find the components. A slow motor or faster one that I can gear down and the gears, oh the gears, have been a pain to find.

Possibly something from rope or cordage industry. Just off the top of my head a chain or timing belt turning the spindles. That should be easier to source the parts, would be scalable, shape could be a little more flexible also

They make a rotating dry rack for hand tied jigs/flies. Possibly this could work?

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I believe he needs something to turn the jigs on there axis so the epoxy will stay in a ball as it dries and not drip off. Same concept as spinning a rod blank to keep the coating level on the wrappings.

2.For a motor, you could use a sewing machine motor and wire in a speed control, like a light dimmer instead of the foot controller.

Might could look into RC cars. They have the small motors and gears drives, etc and might could piece something together without breaking the bank.

Would using UV resin and then using a light to quickly cure to the point where it won't run or drip work?

Like was said, RC servo would keep them rotating while a rod turner would add a circular motion. Not much that's in the inexpensive bin with RC electric stuff but the possibilities are endless.

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Try UV Expoxy. This was made with uv Expoxy and Peak rotory vice.

You could get some of these gears in assorted sizes, a larger central gear mounted on your block with several small ones meshed to it to mount alligator clips to hold hooks......

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Then use one of these to drive the central gear.....

Gear Box DC 12V Reversible High Torque Turbo Worm Reduction Electric Motor 10RPM | eBay

This is just an example, I don't know what final rpm you would want, but you could tune that in with different gear sizes and you can get those reduction motors at almost any RPM.

Those are about the best I have seen for what I am looking for. About 7-12 rpm is about right for keeping the epoxy and hot glue form running off.

I'm gonna contact the seller for ideas on how to do what I need.

A central gear on the motor and then the number I need around the center could work perfect. Just have to get enough room between them to work on each one.

I have looked at the UV gel and for some things it will work great. For others it would get really expensive quick.

That's what I make with the hot glue. Can have a seriously light jig with a big head on it.

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Interesting looking jig

Just FYI Eric Massey jig company on YouTube uses a UV he bought from either Michael’s or Hobby Lobby pretty cheap and then the light off Amazon. Solarez and other big name brands are more expensive. I’m thinking of trying some UV pretty soon myself.

I took a look at the gears and I think they might be a little small for my needs. Perfect gearing but best I could find they are 2-7mm in diameter or there abouts. A little small for my needs. I will check with the seller though to make sure and see if they have any ideas for larger gears.

I will look into other places for the UV Epoxy, if it is lower prices then it could work but I still have to build it up a lot for some of my ties and then cure it. Or do it in layers getting up to 3/8 inch diameter

I think the diameters listed are for the ID. A measurement for the size shaft they fit. That link is also only meant as an example, they come in all kinds of sizes, you can find them on eBay, Aliexpress, alibabba, Banggood, any of those.

Would an injection mold with plastics be cheaper than using glue. Somebody has to have that style mold.

One could be made as well

I would need 100 molds as I do this on many different hooks. Jig hooks, fly hooks, bait hooks, whatever I need for the application.

The largest gear diameter I saw was 44 milimeters, 4 centimeters or about an 1.75 inches. Getting close to big enough so I will look some more.

The best part is finding that motor! The RPMs are perfect, just need to find the gears and do some calculations so I keep the rotation speed at about 7-11 rpm.

I love all the input, gets me thinking in different ways to try and make this happen! Thanks everyone!!

Does anyone have any experience with using the gears and similar motor with plastic and metal options for the gears?

I raced 1/10th scale r/c trucks for a long time. We all used plastic gears on steering units and they held up well in that environment. Steel and alloy gears were in our differentials and transmissions due to load stresses. For what you seem to be doing and it seems would basically be no load situations I would think plastic/neoprene gears would be all you would need.

I too used to race 1/10 scale RC cars and trucks. I think the offerings in the RC world should work just fine.

Sweet! Thank you both, plastic saves a lot of money especially starting out trying to make a working machine.

Plastic is more than strong enough for the mentioned application

Can't wait to see what you come up with. Good luck

I will definitelly post my results here when I make it. Getting some lexan for the structure and getting close to finding the size gears I need.

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Try UV Expoxy. This was made with uv Expoxy and Peak rotory vice.

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That’s a gorgeous jig!!


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I used a microwave oven turntable motor, somewhere between 8 and 16 rpm for my jig head turner, then repurposed it to turn rods while the epoxy on the winding set. Around $10 each when I bought mine and very adaptable.

That's one possible configuration, the middle gear will much larger of course to give some space. The other idea would be the middle gear with 3 gears on each side with small gears in between to get them all to turn the same direction.

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I will see if I can find a microwave turntable motor, had never thought about that as an option, could get one cheap from the local appliance repair place. I also found some rotisserie motors for fairly cheap that could work also.

Skeetbum, did you have to wire the motor anything special or just wire it to plug it in to the socket?

The microwave motor, some small pulleys, and a belt and you would be all set in that configuration

Sorry to be slow responding. Nothing fancy, this is me remember, and it’s shaft has a flat spot to hold a set screw better. I see turners for rod building that are geared together and while I like the concept of getting more done at once I prefer being able to stop a rod,or disc, when it needs attention. Epoxy used in most of what we do except Uv resin has a generous work time but with many guides to meticulously coat I usually run out of time before I run out of epoxy. Adding heat gives some extra time but it is still limited. If I ever set up a multi item setup I would use more motors and switches to isolate them. Low amperage draw makes switching and power supply negligible. Now if I just had the space. Let us know what you come up with.