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I would like to get input from y'all one on some 1lb line. I am a monofilament guy by nature but am not opposed to fluorocarbon. I am not a big fan of braid. I always just seem to have issues with it, and with some of my solid tip rods, it scares me a bit. You just seem to hear stories of broken rod tips a bunch when speaking of braid and ultralight rods.
Why 1#?
You can get some super thin 2-3# line — Varivas, for example.
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Originally Posted by gunwhatgun
Several high quality lines in the range you are looking for at Varivas America. Here is a 1.2# test nylon with a diameter of 0.074mm. AREA Super Trout Master Limited SVG NYLON - VARIVAS They have other lines in that range in fluorocarbon....ester lines also. Not sure if you are familiar with Varivas lines but when it says 1.2 pound break strength, that is what it breaks at....unlike US market lines.
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I am with Disco...curious as to why 1# test line. I dabbled with that a couple years back and it was just not practical. Hooking into 15 inch KY bass....15 inch Smallies. Too many break offs even with some 9 inch bluegill sometimes. I currently have one reel spooled with the Blue Moon FC in a 1.5# test and it works out OK....providing a challenge but also a realistic chance of getting larger fish landed.
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I honestly just like 1lb line. I got hooked on it back in my creek wading days, it made for a lot fewer missed strikes, and it made for a good time on a decent sized fish. I tried some Gamma Ice last year and did not care for it. It had a tendency to coil up like a ribbon after a good fight and some strain was put on it.
It seems most 1lb-er line revolves around ice fishing. Got these off eBay, seems only place that carries them now:Quote:
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I’m wondering if you really had 1# line or if that was just what was printed on the label. Most lines sold in the USA notoriously “overtest” in line strength. For example, every “2-pound” line I know of that’s sold in the US is at least a 3-pound line.Quote:
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Originally Posted by LVSpinfisher1
Hard to read label, but that looks like .105mm. That could be 1# line, but I’m pretty sure Alphahawk has posted about stronger mono with a similar diameter.
Side note: most line discussions need diameter as well as breaking strain to make sure we’re comparing apples to apples.
The Varivas SVG line I linked to is the thinnest nylon mono I’ve seen. The 0.104mm is rated at 2.5# test. I would use it but the thin diameter and being clear means I can’t see it. I know a few who fish this line and love it. One of the biggest eye openers for me this past couple of years has been the use of JDM lines…particularly Varivas. They are simply a premium product helping me with casting and sensitivity. Here is the chart I have used but each year it seems the Japanese line manufactures are making the lines smaller in diameter with greater breaking strength. The standard for a number of years on 2# test mono has been a diameter of around 0.128mm or so. But that number has really shrunk the last few years.
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Yes, DBD it's as you stated: 0.105mm in diameter. I've also tested its strength (no officially) and its over 1 lb but lest than 2lb, meaning it will swing a 16 oz bottle of water (more like 17oz) but not 2 bottles.
Alphahawk, I'm fortunate enough to have near sight vision (i can read up to 3 inches in front of me), but fishing 1lb is just something I do it just for kicks for these local specialties don't get much bigger than a few ounces, yes including once in a while 10 to 14inch carps. And they are mostly strung on a custom made 3 footer rod of broken blanks.
I use Maxima Ultragreen in 1 lb when I fish for trout in clear streams. Line diameter is .003 inch or .008 mm. It performed very well and I believe I got more hook ups using it compared to the 2 lb. Only issue was when I was landing the trout without a net I had a few break offs when they started shaking their head as I was trying to grab the jig to twist the hook out.
Honestly when it comes to line I believe at one time we worried about visibility by the fish, the thinner the better (marketing ploy or science?), so anglers were sent scurrying across multiple manufacturers to find what worked. Then there's time where anglers can't see the line because they were so thin, so we began to see lime green, orange, purple, or just crazy color....that I believe it's marketing to get more lines in the water. Now i use finer line for its castability and of course give the poor little fish a chance of winning its fight for survival or else all these 1 to 3lb max UL rods are pointless. Lets face it we not talking bass anglers in competition where guys on $50K boat swinging 20lb braid (more like 60lb mono) and yank the poor largemouths as fast as one can to set them world record, we talking fighting 1/2 to 2 pound crappies that just want to get away. Losing fish sometimes has its merit! It means the fish won to fight another day. My 2 cents.
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Originally Posted by LVSpinfisher1
If it weren't for Hi-Vis lines I would have to give up UL angling. A couple of years back Trout Magnet was supplying a premier crappie guide of the south with all the free SOS line he wanted. He loved the line but had to quit using it...he couldn't see it...LOL.
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I've been using the 1.2# Varivas for ice fishing. 30" Ul rods, inexpensive reels. It works great, inside a shanty. Sitting on the ice in the open it does have disadvantages. Not just because it is so thin, and hard to see, but because the line is made accurate to the test weight which means if your reel freezes up, the drag doesn't work, and line breakage becomes an issue. The knots hold well, and I'm looking forward to trying this line this spring on open water. So far, the fish have been small and the line hasn't really been challenged but I expect it will perform well.
I’m in the same boat as you. I have to have hi viz, and on the water I fish the bright green color does not seem to have any effect on the bite whatsoever.Quote:
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Bob
Randy you right I forget I’m near sighted. Anything beyond my rod tip I can’t tell if it’s green or maroon..lol, but I see your point. Some folks do benefit from colored lines. Cheers!Quote:
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I’m fortunate that I can still see most lines to tie knots, with my glasses, and sometimes with a word or two I can’t print cuz it just ain’t easy anymore. Dark lines disappear in shadows when cast, and the Nanofil that I love and hate is white and I can see it just fine. I’m kicking the idea of some JDM braid one day soon, pe i believe, but I need a bit more research before that happens. I had two spools of 1lb Nanofil and never opened the package and sold them again. Never got brave enough to spool it up.
Skeet, you won't miss much by selling off your 1lb stash. The going consensus on the board as we speak are #2lb line anyway, with line diameter getting smaller and smaller its a good thing. I'm also with you on the fence on the JDM braid, but if its anything like American braid i'll pass for now. I used to get my fingers cut up real bad years ago chasing striped bass and pier fishing with braids.Quote:
Originally Posted by skeetbum
Two pound does the trick for me. Right now I am using Gamma which tests about 4+ something which is certainly strong enough for my usual water. JDM 3 lb is about perfect and I have used that. I’m going to buy more of that this year, hi viz.Quote:
Originally Posted by LVSpinfisher1
Bob
Anything mono under 4 can’t handle me , just saying .....:Rofl
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A better argument might be all the slingin and flinging!:Rofl His equipment live a tough life!:RoflQuote:
Originally Posted by DockShootinJack
Bob
I have trouble not breaking 4 lbs line on the rare occasion I fish mono.Quote:
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That's the reason we remarry younger. We need help tying the knots..lol..Quote:
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That statement will get me in trouble this evening. As soon as I repeat it to the wife.:RoflQuote:
Originally Posted by catchNgrease
Bob, the two pound Stren crappie I use fits the way I fish for mono, and I don’t break it often. Don’t know the diameter but I’m sure it breaks over it’s stated weight. Got a 5lb1oz tilapia on it two years ago. None of the mono I have tried, and the list is long, have cast anything close to what I need with jigs under a 1/32. I also have some 2 lb Sufix nanobraid that does the best of any of the domestic braids I’ve tried. Good knots and much better abrasion resistance. I haven’t been cut by this but I imagine it would be brutal as strong and small as it is. I’ve been cut by the heavier braid and its unforgiving. I still keep a rod or two with mono, problem is remembering what test is on which rod. I don’t use them often enough.