going to ordering some 1/32 and 1 /64oz jig heads for crappie, what is a popular hook size.
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going to ordering some 1/32 and 1 /64oz jig heads for crappie, what is a popular hook size.
chet
#6 or #4 are pretty popular. Depends on what your doing with them. Some like larger hooks.
#6 for 1/32
#8 for 1/64
For crappie I would go with a larger hook .
I fish mostly for gills and prefer a smaller hook .
Just recently , I started using a size 6 sickle hook in 1/32. I was afraid it was going to be too big , but it hasn’t been a problem .
I’ve used an 8 sickle in the 1/80 jigheads before , but I’m tying up 1/32’s now , so I can cast them without using a float .
I personally like a number 2 sickle on all my jig heads. I do have a few number 4's
I catch tons of crappie on #8...and #10. Just went yesterday and netted over 100 fish...about 80 crappie...using only a #10 hook.
Regards
10’s, 8’s, and 6’s (size 8 is my sweet spot)
Can’t say I’ve ever seen a 1/64! 1/32 I poured once and used a size 4. I would say a size 4 or 6 for 1/32 and size 6 or 8 for 1/32.
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Best I remember from left to right 1/64 #6, 2 packs of 1/32 #6, 1/16 #4, 1/8 #2 all sickle hooks.
I think one pack of the 1/32 were #4 hook maybe. :dono
I like to have the hook go at least to the back half of the bait where it starts to thin out at the tail section. Body thickness of the bait would also determine how large the hook gap should be. I also want to point of the hook bent out just slight so that the point and barb find their way home more easily.
+1.:hesaid That’s what I use as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by deathb4disco
Bob
Here is picture of a 1/64 with a #6 eagle claw. Notice how the the tip of the hook is almost equal to the eye. Watched an older video from Richard where he talked about this problem and how was working with 4x4 Jig Company to design a better jig. That's the number one reason I alter my molds to accept a #4 hook in all sizes.
I am curious if you guys open your smaller hooks a bit.
I'm afraid if I use anything smaller than a #4 and I don't open them up it has tendency to bury up in the mouth.
Thanks and my apologies to the OP if this feels like a hi-jack Attachment 411201
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1/32,1/16,1/8 I use #2
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Casting I use #6 and #8 on 2 lb line for 1/64 and 1/32, and #4 for 1/16. Trolling I use #4 and #2 for all between 1/32 and 1/8. If they’re mostly white crappie I’m trolling for I’ll bump up a size bigger with no Bad issues.
I have no clue if you watch my YouTube channel or not…but I catch lots of crappie on jig heads with a #10 and #8 hook with no issues at all. It is rare I lose fish doing this. I use them that small as I do not want to miss out on any bluegill that may hit. For years I thought one must use number 2…3….and 4 size hooks to be successful jigging for crappie. Nothing could be further from the truth. I do not boat lift crappie as most do. Due to the rods and very light lines I use that is not possible. I have tried open gaped hooks. What I can tell you from testing them out a lot is you will lose fish with them. These jig heads come from the manufacture with the open gap but it is the same as if you bend the hook up slightly. I gave about 50 dollars worth of them to my son…he reported same results as me…he loses fish. So now they are just sitting on a shelf.Quote:
Originally Posted by catchNgrease
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so here in lies what many don't understand on hook sizes versus jig head weight
the light jig heads need light hooks to perform properly , a number 4 on a 1/32 is basically trash in my tackle bag
in some cases it makes them tail heavy and in others it tears up the micro plastic baits as well .
I got some 1/16 with number 4 hooks recently and they are almost to heavy on the hook size for the jig head .
one thing for certain , the more "real life" it looks in the water , the better it will ketch fish
8 on a 1/64 and 6 on a 1/32 are max ....
like stated 10 works really well on 1/64 and 8 does on 1/32 too ....just saying
Do you adjust the bend of your smaller jigheads?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ketchn
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Good points, guys. Thanks for the tips!
Bob
When it comes to jig hook size, my only reason for chosing one size over another is a lure's body length with hook gap and jig weight always factors taken in comination. Take this example:
https://i.imgur.com/jQwgcGf.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/WV3O1t9.jpg
Too short or too long a hook shank have drawbacks. Fish target the whole lure IMO and a gap that is small above the top of the lure's body loses more fish IMO. Too long a hook makes a lure more fragile where the area joins the tail and rips easily. The hook on the 1/24 oz is a #6 (lt); on the 1/16, a #4 (rt). When it comes to gap, I sometimes widen the gap just a bit with pliers (left photo) for light hits or repeated hits from overly aggressive fish.
The hook size used with the 1/32 oz below is a #6:
https://i.imgur.com/BhoBjMF.jpg
The hook should come out 1/2 to 3/4 of the way from the body. Rarely do I need a tiny #8 hook for most of the lures I cast even with 1/32 or 1/64 oz jigs. This 3" stick bait still only required a #4 hook with a 1/24 oz.jig:
https://i.imgur.com/qPSvEwd.jpg?1
Jig head weight is dependent on how slow the retrieve regardless lure body length. I prefer a #2 hook when fish are biting plastic worms or sticks such as a 5" G.Y. Kut tail worm (lt) and worm (rt):
https://i.imgur.com/kZFDzdY.jpg?1https://i.imgur.com/41s4lZ3.jpg
Note: both jigs weights were 1/24 oz./ hook sizes #4 to allow the best lure action for this type of lure.
Hook size is never an issue when it comes to strike deterrence IMO whereas lure length and thickness are key coupled with hook gap and length. Many of my catches include 3" fish taken on 3" lures and #6 hooks.
https://i.imgur.com/Lqg3L89.jpg
Again, opinions vary based on experience as seen in the above replies, but my average catches range form 40-80 fish outings which include 3" - 15" pan fish and up to 2.5 lb bass using a multitude of soft plastic designs, jig head weights and hook sizes - nothing set in stone.
I don’t open the gap on any hook I use. I feel that while it may help to get the fish a little better it also ups the snag ratio. My 1/32 ball head (which weighs 1/43 with a #8 hook) with an inch and a quarter body slides over most obstacles without a snag. Yes, it isn’t foolproof but it has been noticeably better than any others I have used. As Alphahawk said, the smaller hooks haven’t been a negative issue for me either. Too tight a drag will pull them loose but properly used I land some surprising fish with them.
I really never adjust hook bends unless I have somehow bent one out a bit to much .Quote:
Originally Posted by catchNgrease
some of the really light wire hooks bend easily and the smaller hooks bend pretty easily as well .
no doubt , still remember a 33 inch long 12 lb blue on a number 10 cricket hook ....Quote:
Originally Posted by skeetbum
buried in it's big whisker , man oh man was that a bigtime battle ....
finished that fight with a long rifle 22 bullet between it's beady little eyes ....
blues eat well in that size range and to be sure my nanny sure was happy when I got back home in the ole Willys from a few miles out in the way back yonder ....good times ....:highfive
Those bigger Blue's have some fight in them
What is your youtube channel?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alphahawk
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Looks more like a #4 hook especially if used with those small lures.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lloakley930
When it comes to increasing the gap very slightly I do it for short hitters and when using a crappie spin. The 45 degree hook point angle to the surface occurs as I set the hook no matter the distance to the fish. The high rod tip at over 45 degrees to the surface allows the hook point to penetrate upwards to the top of the fish's mouth or lip, keeps the hook embedded and rarely allows deep throated hooksets. Of course there's no need to adjust the gap for very aggressive fish as were caught yesterday. Perch and crappy in open water before the major storm, hit jigs with #6 and #4 adjusted to plastic lure size.
The 45 degree rule applies to all hooksets.
Note: the only way one would set the hook with the point being horizontal to the bottom is a side arm hookset which few do. As far as snags, no hook gap is immune from them especially thick pad stems, tree branches and stumps. Fortunately most of my casting & catching is in open water over depth-change/ dependent struture.
When it comes to a natural appearence, most lures rarely have one, and because fish can't think, they aren't fooled one way or another regardless jig and hook size. They simply react.....
I’ve been using 1/32 and 1/64 unpainted heads with number 6 and 8 sickle hooks. I’ll use a net on anything around a pound tho. 4 pound slime line hi vis is a must have with jigs this small.Quote:
Originally Posted by chetc
Note: the only way one would set the hook with the point being horizontal to the bottom is a side arm hookset which few do.
This explains why alot of your fish are hooked up wrong and almost appear snagged.
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???
Never knew there was a wrong way to hook a fish that stays hooked. Just say'n. But there are ways not to set the hook and sidearm is one of them.
Very true!Quote:
Originally Posted by Spoonminnow
Bob
So what are your favorite colors Dave? lolQuote:
Originally Posted by SuperDave336
Im about to the point i could use just one, pink.
I use them all. Personally my favorite color is bright green but I think fish like chartreuse better. I actually use a lot of blues and grays now. Pink hasn't worked as good for me but could be I don't give it a long enough try.
Might be different places with different conditions?Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperDave336
I pretty much go to the same place every time, mainly because im usually the only one there, to small for the Bass guys to air out the big rigs, has no dock and the ramp is bad.
Pink and monkey milk usually gets it done, and when it stops i just go home. lol
I use sidearm hook sets all the time. :dono
Been catching a lot of trout this week with a sidearm hook set.
For panfish using small jig hooks?!Quote:
Originally Posted by deathb4disco
Them too. Been catching gills and catfish along with the trout, all on a #6 or #8 hook.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spoonminnow
...and a sidearm hook set. I'm talking rod horizontal to the surface.Quote:
all on a #6 or #8 hook
So am I.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spoonminnow