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Just got a new boat. So, new to this fishing gig.
I am trying to come up with some electronics for the boat. Obviously Live scope. After that total confusion!!!
I will be crappie and striper fishing.
I would like a way to save way points and navigate to them, along with the normal sonar? stuff.
Here is what I was thinking?
Echomap UHD 93sv (w/transducer)for the bow/livescope
Echomap UHD 93sv for the console w/transducer
To much?? Missing?
and of course Thanks
The 93s are very good units, but the guys with enough bucks claim the bigger screens are better for LS. I have two 93s on the bow, one for LS one for down image, a quirk of mine like the reassurance of the sonar to verify what I have seen LS. Had a bird 998 up there it quit missed it so replaced with a 93. Have not tried the SI on the Garmin, have a old HB 1197 at the console that is my go too navigation and SI unit, linked to a HB798 that is map only on the bow. I have never had much success with SI on the trolling motor, but that is my deficiency. A good TM with spot lock is great also, I am running a ULTREX, but hear good things about the Garmin, some folks really like the TM linked to the electronics I have personally never figured out how to make it work, likely my lack of knowledge, been thinking of hiring a guide to see how they use it. Which may be a good idea for you, to see equipment in action. Last, keep reading, do not be afraid to play with your settings, spent a full day never fished just messed with settings, you can always put them back. Different conditions require different settings, sun, water clarity etc. have my bow units mounted high so constantly adjusting, depth, how far front etc. tight lines and best of luck
one more thing, see lots of folks have battery issues running LS, many over look that the black box is a constant drain, the manual says to disconnect between use, wired mine to 20v dewalt tool batteries that I pull at the end of the day. Lots of info on here Ricky is a HB wizard in this forum.
And welcome to Crappie.com you are in a Great place for help.
FWIW .... I have the 93sv mounted on the bow (no tdx) ... Livescope use only. I have a Hook 7 mounted on the bow, which is basically used for maps/gps waypoints.
I opted for the "no tdx" deal because I wanted the whole 9" screen to be for LS & nothing else. Using split screens on my 5" & 7" screens, in the past, showed me that I wanted the whole screen to be showing only the one option. Plus I already had the Hook 7 mounted up there and didn't want to remove it. I can use it for maps/DI/2d or split screen options if needed. (both tdx's are mounted on trolling motor)
And yes to "griz's" point about amperage draw of the LS/93sv system (up to 4a/hr @ max settings) may require a separate battery. I have a 68 amp hour AGM battery just for the LS/93sv system.
Bought my 93sv (w/o tdx) & LS system from Brian@BBGmarine for $2200 back a couple years ago. Not sure what the going price on them is now, but I do know he gives discounts to Crappie.com members. I'd call or PM him after getting some quotes from other sources, just to see if he beats their prices.
Welcome to CDC from North Carolina. I run two Humminbird Helix 7 units on the console, and a Helix 10 on the bow, with a Minn Kota Ultrex 80# thrust, all networked together so that I can mark waypoints, change trolling motor courses, or set Spotlock from anywhere in the boat, which is really nice. I do not have LiveScope and have been resisting getting one for several years, because I don't think I'm (at all) interested in staring at any screen while I'm fishing (that's just me). You have definitely come to the right place to get answers and suggestions that I'm sure will do much to get you on the right track and/or help you cut through all of the confusion and the quite formidable learning curves.
Thanks for all of the input.
I am in the process of making a list to run 8ga wire to the front. Do you recommend an on off switch for the live scope?
You won't be able to connect the 2 93 units together with a network cable and also connect the livescope without a network hub. The larger Echomap units have 2 network ports so you can connect a livescope and network to other units without needing a hub.
definitely the black box, as it will drain even when not in use.Quote:
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In the Manual there is a section Connecting to a Garmin Device to share User Information. it mentions a data sharing cable. I looked it up by part number, It in not an Ethernet cable.
Am I not understanding something?
Look at the manual closely, the 93s do not have the data sharing while hooking up livescope, BUT can hook the two small wires to make them share. I did not bother as they are right against each other, and using my birds for maps.... the Garmin maps appear superior.... but poor people have poor wasy.Quote:
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The setup you mentioned sounds pretty good. You can share waypoints and tx images including LS with the echomap plus units if you get a network hub. I have a 93, 73 and LS networked with a Netgear 5 port hub that I got off of Amazon for around $20. Garmin sells a waterproof version. I mounted my cheapo version under the console where it's out of the weather. I used standard network cables from Amazon also.
Garmin recommends a cutoff switch for the LS.
I run everything except the Terrova off of the starting battery.
That's what I know.
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I ran a dedicated battery for my 93SV and GLS10 (black box). Used these switches and plate then mounted them at the bow. Ran 10 AWG wire to the switches (~6ft), then used the factory power cable to terminate the units to the switches.
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So, when I pick my trolling motor up out of the water, I need to have a switch mounted close to turn the black box off? If that is correct, I am have trouble finding a 12v relay to handle the load with 8ga wire. If all of this is correct? anyone have any idea where to find such a relay?
no sir, when you hit the power off button it will give you to option to shut down or rest it, no relay needed when in use just over night etc.Quote:
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Leave the unit on while using the boat. The toggle switch is to keep the GLS10 box from drawing current while not in use, I.e when you’re off the water.Quote:
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Ok picked up the boat today. Something came up that I need some help with.
I purchase 2 93sv units one with transducer and one without for the LS. I am told that I need the big transducer mounted on the transom, for the console mounted 93sv. I was told that this transducer does a lot more than what I need on the trolling motor.
So what I need help with is the garmin part number of the transducer that works with a 93sv mounted on the trolling motor.
Hope this is not to confusing.
Not at all confusing, first depends on TM, brand, model etc. I do not use SI on TM, but do have the adaptor to use the sonar off my Ultrex, into my 93sv. I run two units just because I like to verify sonar against LS... waste of time but makes me feel better. The LS does it all, but easy enough to use adaptor and split screen if wanted. Some guys, (smarter than myself) use the SI on the TM, kinda like a 360.
Sorry for leaving out some info. I am going to make another mount for my live scope transducer, probably out of pvc like some on youtube. What I am looking for is information on a transducer to mount to the bottom of my minn kota trolling motor for when I am using my 93sv without live scope. It was mentioned that I would not use some of the features of the 93sv on the bow? Like I would on the console mounted unit?
IF you mount a garmin transducer on the bottom of your trolling motor it should function the same as the one on the console. Again, depending on TM that can be easy or that can be hard. There are lots of you tube videos and great information on here. My Ultrex has a built in universal which gives me sonar for just the cost of a adapter. It serves my needs. Do not really need SI and DI with the livescope.
OK I have my live scope mounted under my console and a cat 5 network cable ran up front to the 93 and all I get is a blinking red light blinking "trying to connect"
Is the 93 turned on?
Figured it out. Network tester said a 20ft piece of cable was good, but for some reason would not work. Ran a temporary piece across the floor of the boat panoptics came right up on the 93.
I have got my 93s linked thru the hub. I can see my LS on either unit, or at the same time. However I cannot get my waypoints to work like that???