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Threw a Rebel Crickhopper for the first time this evening. I was fishing it topwater style and this little guy nailed it. I think it's a green sunfish, but I'e never caught one of these before, so I'm not sure. Lay some knowledge on me!
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Goggle eye is my vote
That is a warmouth.
green sunfish, aka goggle eye
Goggle eye. War mouth have red eyes usually … but I know lots of folks around here call war mouth a red eyed gogg.
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There are so many subtle variations with both species and each individual fish that it’s hard to determine at times.Sent from my iPhone using Crappie.com
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It has red eyes on my screen, not sure if that is showing up on everyone else's devices. Really dark red eyes, no blue on cheeks, no red or orange on fins, no blue specks down the sides, and no white outlining of the black gillplate flapper.. Definitely not a green sunfish and looks everything like a warmouth. Really cool fish, even with the paleness in this particular fish.
It is a warmouth (Lepomis gulosus). Which common name is Goggle Eye, but several people also call the green sunfish a goggle eye so that is where all the confusion lies and why we cannot use common names to ID fish usually.
Congrats on the fish, they arent everywhere and are on the bucket list for many people.
They both cool looking fishes! Especially your catch, Smitty, with the red around the fins.Quote:
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The Warmouth around here have 3 stripes on their Gill plates . Like has already been said there are subtle variations and no doubt a regional difference too maybe. Looks like he was fun regardless. If he’s a hybrid he’ll be tough to call.
I think the old timers hollered Goggle Eye on anything that was not a Bluegill or a cracker. Wither way looks like it was a scrappy fighter
Very interesting colors on that one photo. Nice catch.
Bob
fish one likely a pure warmouth
fish 2 some kinda hybrid , probably green/warmouth
our warmouth are much more tiger looking and a bit lighter in most spots
but I have seen a few darker fish with less definitive markings as well .
this is a young warmouth , but i have seen some similar in coloration to the first fish in the same spot before as well
just did a bit of reading on warmouth , seems they can hybridize across the board !
one information source said largemouth , black crappie and all the other sunfish species can hybridize with them !
and NONE mentioned blue streaks in the gill plates as a feature of identification on a the pure warmouth .
the red dot on the rear dorsal fin that is commonly seen in the spring indicates its a male fish.
as well a bright red eyes during the spawn ....said they reached spawn capability at 3 to 4 inches long
and 3 spines on the anal fin says it isn't a rock bass :highfive
Interesting fish to say the least.
Thanks for the info from all. I've never seen or caught one of these in this geographic location. I need to do some research to see how common they are in these parts.
The Green Sunfish in middle Tennessee have a goldish kind of fin boundary i do not see in this fish but my vote is Greenie!
Attachment 405590 Those are some pretty fish. The Warmouth I'm used to catching are a welcome catch but are not too pretty..
the larger fish here often get really dark in some spots and in others they stay all tiger looking like the little fish in the image I posted , in some spots they get a purplish hue to them also .
the variance on coloration on them is often times quite different , my wife caught ones years ago that was huge and just almost solid gold with about zero markings on it .
pretty neat fish for sure , wish there were larger numbers of them here , but we don't see many in any one spot and if you ketch 2 in the same day that is pretty unusual here .
in my reading on them it says they are loners in the sunfish world for the most part .
No idea what it is,
however I learned something snd really enjoyed the post!
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I would guess a Warmouth, Goggle eye Or Hybrid Beautiful fish pic!
just call it a sunfish and enjoy the experience with it!
You can call me ray, or rj or rjj but you don't has to call me johnson!
a "perch" is just a perch as they say in these parts :RoflQuote:
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