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I have always used braid or mono depending on the situation. I have been thinking about trying fluorocarbon but the readings about it describe a worse memory problem than mono. True or false? If I use it it won't be for leaders. It will be full spool.
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If you're putting it on a level wind type reel ... it could be OK. If you're putting it on a spinning type reel .... ehhhh, maybe not so OK. I don't use it, and have never used it, so I'm basing my statements on having spooled a friends spinning reel with it & it would NOT stay on the spool. :Doh: Even at only 3/4 full, as soon as you opened the bail there were at least 8-10 wraps that would jump off the spool (on a full spool it was ~3x's that many wraps jumping off). I can't remember if it was 6# or 8# test, but it was put on a reel in the 20/2000 series size. It was removed & replaced with mono, right then & there.
I've also heard that it's not particularly "abrasion resistant" ... but, it's been so long since I've read anything about it that that may no longer be the case in many instances. :dono
That's exactly what I needed to hear. No fluorocarbon for me. Thanks CP [emoji3]
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I'm now using it on my linecounter reels(K9 12-14 pound test Hi-Viz) and absolutely love it. It is stronger than my previous 12 pound mono but much smaller diameter.
You might hear stories about how so-n-so was catching fish with fc while others did not. I’m telling you that there could be a thousand reasons why, but invisibility will not be one of them. If fc was invisible due to it’s proprietary molecular structure, then 400 lb test would also be invisible. Do you think 400 lb test fc is invisible ?
Best way to limit visibility is to reduce line diameter.
There are other factors involved, like stiffness, rate of sinking, etc. Sounds like spooling up with fc is out for you, but to discount fc in the form of just leaders would serve you poorly. Experiment because the material definitely behaves differently than those others you already use.
BTW- cheap fc is also different than expensive fc, but no one knows which you need. Good luck.
With all due respect: Some of the newer fluorocarbon lines are quite supple and easy to work with even on spinning reels. One of my favorites (although) a good bit more expensive is Sunline Sniper and Shooter brands and is a bit smaller diameter too. I like to use fluoro on any applications that require deep or mid-depth presentations. I get good castability, sensitivity, and strength with no complaints that I can think of whatsoever.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrappiePappy
I’ve fished quite a few Japanese FC lines in 2 and 3 pound test. I do this to help me keep a 1.5 gram jig head down when fishing deep water…meaning 15-25 feet deep. It also gives me great sensitivity. All of the lines I used were very supple and soft…they are also pretty pricey. Until a few years back the lines I used were all clear… but now I can’t see any clear lines at all so I switched to Sunline FC Sniper BMS Azayaka…..which is made up of 4 hi-vis colors. It’s pretty good stuff.
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I ran 2 spools of 10 lb berkley flouro before and during the spawn because it was tougher and on clearance for 2 bucks a spool .
Was really good "fishing" line for sure , no real memory issues and tough stuff , never used anymore as it was pricey when not on sale .
not sure if that qualifies as knowing much about it , but a local crappie angler i know ,makes some of the best custom handmade rods you have ever seen just for crappie and is considered the guru of guru crappie guys uses cheap flouro on his set ups .
told me to stick with cheap if i went that route so it was easy to find at the local whatever sporting goods retailers .
Flouro certainly has it's advantages, but I don't see them as all that preferable for crappie. I do use it as a leader for my heavier walleye jigging setups.
It's very tough, with minimal stretch, and far more abrasion and UV resistant than mono. Those same qualities make it hard to handle in a spinning setup. I read somewhere that it was invented as a leader line, which it does work really well for.
I've also had trouble with knots holding on lighter lb test flouros.
it works REALLY good on long range hook sets with a nice stiff rod ,really sticks fish well WAY out there :highfive
I have used P-Line Fluorclear 4 lb test for about 5 years , the biggest problem is knots . best I have found is a 7 wrap clinch knot well lubed . Have landed some very large fish with it , I am sold on it.
Let me muddy the waters a little now. On a spinning reel... would co-polymer be a better choice to fight memory?
I tried the fluoro once, on a spinning reel.
No bueno.
Now I use it for leaders on my braid.
Can’t help on the copolymer, out of my wheel house.
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I use copolymer line (Vicious Panfish 6#) and it will still maintain some coil memory, if left unused for a period. So I take it outside, tie it off to the AC frame, then walk off about 50-60ft while letting the line out ... then close the bail and pull the line fairly taught & hold it for like 10sec's, let it go slack for a few sec's & then repeat the stretching procedure. Then I lay the rod down, go cut the line loose, go back to the rod and reel the line back on thru finger/thumb pressure while the line drags thru the grass. That does 2 things : takes much of the coil memory out of the line & the twists that have occurred from previous use.Quote:
Originally Posted by silverside
I should do that more often, since I don't get to go fishing all that often, but I do try and remember to do it before I do go & it's been a couple of weeks since the last use.
Search on YouTube- Shaw Grigsby flourocarbon knot- and he shows an easy one that holds well. Fact is that FC does require special attention to the knot.
I have probably caught 10,000 crappie on either straight fluorocarbon or braid to fluorocarbon leader from 4-12lb, mainly Seagar Red Label or Sunline Sniper. Never used anything but palomar or Uni knots and never had a knot slip. It doesn’t require anything special and is superior to mono/copolymer for a lot of applications.Quote:
Originally Posted by Micanopy
I use 6 and 8# vanish and Yozuri fluro on my canepoles and tie hooks using the uniknot. I used to fish in the Gulf of Mexico mostly for Grouper, used lots of Seaguar 80# floro leaders with uniknots. There may be a better/stronger knot but I have been using the uniknot for more than 40 years so I'm used to using it. I have never used fluro as the main line on a fishing reel, just leaders.
Have heard positive reports from guys using K9.
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