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They are pumping water into Horseshoe. At this moment 6 pumps at 5000 gpm and fixing to put 4 more online soon. Maybe by the end of the month water level will be looking fine.
AG&F would not give me the ok to put attractors in the lake; they sent me to COE and they would not say yes or no. They gave me a phone number to some man that is ahead of housing association at Horseshoe.
I bet that I'll have to give the coordinates to them if he says yes.
Rusty, just put them out and if someone says something, just tell them you mentioned it to some of the guys and none of them said that you couldn't.
Alot easier to ask forgiveness than permission.. :D
Don't ask and don't tell. Don't own up to nothing unless your caught and then play dumb.:D What can they do but tell you to stop? Here a permit is required on COE but few ever bother with one.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by bobberwatcher
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Originally Posted by fishingpox
What are they pumping out of to fill the lake?
They dug wells. There is a write-up in the Commerical Appeal about it. Here's the link. I haven't been going to Horseshoe until this year but we did really well over there. Here's the link...
http://www.commercialappeal.com/mca/...569304,00.html
Thats good that they are doing that. As far as the wells pumping 5000 gpm, I dont know about that. Maybe they are, but that is alot of water for a well to pump.
5000 gpm not at all hard to imagine to me. I have rebuilt and rewound so many pumps in my life, it's scary. The biggest pump motor I have wound was 10k hp, at a chemical plant in memphis. Just 4160 volts. It was a verticle like the one in that newspaper article. We had to build scaffolds inside it to wind it. In that article, the Bonds fellow was the one COE referred me to. Launches will probably go up to 10 dollars, maybe that will keep some of the lice off the lake.
Well this is my 3rd or 4th week with no fishing, I'm getting antsy.
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Originally Posted by winghunting
That's all great news. Hopefully when the lake gets back to full pool and settles down, the fishing will like it was several years ago---especially in December!
It may be putting out 5000 gpm. The well in the article looks to be a 60, but may be a 80 hp electric motor. I am sure it is a shallow well, probably set around 90-100 ft. Looks to be a line shaft, column well and probably has a 3 stage pump on it. I just have never seen one pump that much water in my part of the world, but it maybe there.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishingpox
Not sure where you're from winghunting, but Horeshoe is next to the Mississippi Rivier.
I have been there a time or two. Remindes me of a story, me and a buddy were catfishing on Horseshoe one night and the fish weren't biting. We could see the lights of the casino's going back and forth. Well, we decided screw it and loaded the boat up and headed to the Casino's. Well, we thought we had only been there 3-4 hours, and we strolled out of the casinos and the sun was up. It was a long ride home.Quote:
Originally Posted by Polebender
Back to the wells.....I am not saying that they are not pumping 5000 gpm. I am sure it is possible. My best friend owns a well drilling company and I worked for him for 3-4 years while in college. I have drilled and pulled and worked on more wells than I ever care to remember. Even to this day, he still calls me when he needs some help and I go out and drill/pull wells with him. I have been worked on deep and shallow wells, relifts, you name it I probably worked on it or have seen it. I just have never seen one pump 5000 gpm. I am not saying its not possible, I would just have to see it and measure and calculate it for myself to really believe it.
Good luck to you fellows, when at full pool again, hollar at us Yankees up North and we'll make a drive down! I read that article sounds like a VERY good deal for all the locals and visitors too! MM
I think they ment 5000gph. Does that make sense?
:D The article said when all 10 are pumping they can pump 72 million gallons of water per day (24 hour period)...that means each pump could realistically pump about 4-5,000 gallons per minute! To equate GPM take 5,000 gallons times 60 (for the amount of minutes in an hour) you get 300,000 gallons per hour, take 300,000 time 24 (for the amount of hours in a day) you get 7,200,000 gallons per day. Then take that number and times by 10 (for the amount of pumps pumping an equal amount of water) and you get the 72 million gallons per day they speak of in the article.....that should clear it up for everyone, haha~! MinnowMan :D
I talked to Mr. Bonds this morning. He said the pipes are 16 inches in diameter. Or 16 inch wells. Does that help? They were 150 feet down. How big the impellars are I have no idea. Motors are 75 hp @1800 RPM. He said they would be back to full pool by winter. The cost of running the motors were 30k per month and did not want to run short of money. So they are taking their time. I'm beginning to think like you now, that sure is alot of water.
About the crappie habitat, he said be my guest to put all you want in there. Just make sure everything is environmentally safe.
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Originally Posted by winghunting
Pox just an fyi that CEB has finaly burried his head in the books in preperation for his Med exams or I'm sure he would have responded to this thread with glee.
By the way who is paying the 30k per month for this venture, and do you know if the water is comming from the Mississippi river or an aquifer?
ceb. The Man's name is Pat Bonds he is the driving force behind getting the money so the wells could be drilled. His number is 870-339-3127. It is my understanding they are gowing to have ten well pumping by mid summer.
From what I understand is that they passed some sort of a tax for the landowners on Horseshoe and thats whats footing the bill. The water is coming from the Alluvial Aquifer, because those are shallow wells, which is replenished over time by the river.Quote:
Originally Posted by gooch
If its 30K a month for all the wells, thats not too bad. I know some farmers that have deep wells that spend a grand a day per well to run them. At least they went with electric. Right now you can save money running an electric well opposed to diesel.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishingpox
Thats good that they will let you put out stuff for habitat. It could make for some good fishing later on down the road.
What county is Horseshoe Lake in. I'd like to look it up county map book. Sounds like a real good lake when it is full.
I just had a look at the Peace River in Florida and it appears to be down about 16 feet. Man those folks really need to look hard at how many folks they are hooking on to water that ain't there. My mom and brother live there and they say they are really hurting for water. Like the old saw, "Water, water, everywhere, but not a drop to drink". Its all salt or sulphur.
CEB must be wearing them out somewhere. He has not responded to a post named after him??
DP
It's in Crittenden County, outside of Hughes.
Ha...when I say the name of this thread and the number of posts on it...I thought that y'all might be planning a lynchin' for ol' ceb...:D
Good to know that y'all aren't gettin' rid of me, but even better to finally hear the news about Horseshoe filling up. Although I actually didn't mind the low water levels as long as someone would have built a new ramp. All that's happening in my mind is that they are just puttin' more water in there and providing more fishable habitat for those danged crappie to hide-out in. They might be a little harder to find now...:rolleyes:
And about the sinking of cover in the lake...Horseshoe isn't private...just the land around it...so they can't say anything about you puttin' stuff in it...and I'd laugh if someone told me to give 'em the coordinates just to be able to sink it...
Thanks for giving me the heads up, Pox. I guess it will be about filled up by the time I get back over there to fish it...:(