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i am looking to start fly fishing and since fathers day with coming up, i am looking at getting a new fly rod.
can anyone help with rod weight, lenght ?
line weight? or any other helped info ?
any rod and reel brands ?
i have been looking at bass pro shop at there combos not sure which one to get. i will mostly be bass ,bream fishing
thank for any info or suggestion:)
A 9' 5wt is a good compromise for bass/bream.
I have a Bass Pro Hobbs Creek outfit that's very nice. They sometimes have them on sale for less than $100 (that includes rod, reel and line.)
I'd also take a look at the Temple Forks Outfitters (TFO) Signature series. It's a great rod with a lifetime warranty for $99. Add an inexpensive reel and line, and you're all set. TFO also has a starter outfit. I think it's called the NXT kit.
The best tip I can give you is this: spend an hour or so with a good casting instructor. That will save you a lot of frustration. Casting videos can be good, but nothing beats good, one-on-one instruction. I recently had a casting "tune up" with a local instructor --VERY helpful.
Cameron - I fish bass, bream and trout with a fly rod. I don't have much money tied up in the rod and reel. It's a 6wt Hobbs Creek combo from Bass Pro. For me it's perfect and I find it casts as well as Sage rods costing hundreds of dollars. Good luck. Nothing more fun.
You might want to read this link and its following article links:
Fly Fishing 101
well here is what I am thinking!;)
i am looking at an okauma reel and maybe a 8'6" fast tip pole maybe
6 wt.
If you had a choice of 5wt. or 6 wt. which one? I would like to also caoght some big bass maybe. 3 or 5 pounds. bream too. would love to eat some:)
also what about line weight forward, fotating? looking for something to help cast too?
thanks guys for any info. that father day gift will bw speaciols:D
jr.;)
well here is what I am thinking!;)
i am looking at an okauma reel and maybe a 8'6" fast tip pole maybe
6 wt.
If you had a choice of 5wt. or 6 wt. which one? I would like to also caoght some big bass maybe. 3 or 5 pounds. bream too. would love to eat some:)
also what about line weight forward, fotating? looking for something to help cast too?
thanks guys for any info. that father day gift will be great:D
jr.;)
What's your budget on this little venture? Knowing that would help suggest some good outfits.
With a 6wt, you'd be able to toss bigger flies. But remember -- just because a rod says "6wt" on it, doesn't mean it won't cast other line sizes. A 5wt will cast a 6wt line and vice versa. That's why many rods are rated as "5/6" or "7/8".
I'm more of a bluegill guy, so I'd go with a 5wt. And if at all possible, cast the rod before you buy it.
If you buy a combo, it'll come with a weight forward, floating line. That's pretty standard.
I use 6wt rod, love love love it, started with floating, now I have 2 reels, one with floating, one sinking, there is nothing more fun than hooking the unexpected bass! You'll never be bored.
Here is the main warm water outfit I use as an example. The rod is an EagleClaw Black Eagle full flex or parabolic fiberglass two-piece in an eight foot 5/6wt. The reel is an Okuma Sierra or 5/6S. I use a WF-5-F or weight forward 5 weight floating line for my main line. I think all of my fly lines are Scientific Anglers. You do not have to get the same outfit as mine but I was able to get the entire outfit with a spare spool for the reel and a WF-5-S (weight forward 5 weight sinking line) type I (slow sink) sinking line with 15 or 20lb. test Dacron backing and 6lb. test fluorocarbon leader tippet material (for the sinking line leader) all for around $120 to $130. I use 8lb. test mono leader material for the butt section of my leaders and I use standard 6lb. test Berkley mono tippet material for my floating line. Best of luck.
Hi Cameron Jr.,
For a compromise bass/bream rod, think a 6 wt. will work best for you. It would be light enough to be comfortable while casting the lighter foam spider and cricket bugs for bream, yet just heavy enough to handle medium poppers for bass. I would definitely stick with a 9’ rod. As for a reasonably priced production rod, I really like the Cabela’s FT series. They are very light and have a nice crisp action. Good luck
anyone used those dogwood cayon combos out of bass pro
This was an almost brand new sneaky pete when I set out this morning. I did not take my camera, because it was drizzly off an on. Bream were attacking, one really nice bass, and 3 ring perch. Then I noticed I was missing hits, helps to have a hook!
Starting to wonder why I have other rods!
I was useing this with about 4 ft of 4lb leader & sinking line.
The Hobbs Creek is a significant step up in quality without paying a lot more. In addition to my own experience, I've heard a lot of good comments on the HC combos. I've only heard one comment on the Dogwood Canyon, and it was negative.Quote:
Originally Posted by cameron jr.
Incidentally, if you buy the outfit at a BP store, check out the internet price beforehand. I just came back from the Atlanta BPS, and the HC combos were $110-120. But online, they're $90-100. The store will give you the internet price if you tell them. Sorry, but I didn't check the Dogwood Canyon prices.
i am getting t he hoobs creek 9foot pole 6 weight. I want to try some bigger poppers for the larger bream. hope to also get one of those electic filleting knifes so i can get some practice in.
thanks for all the info and insight
jr.
I use a good 9' rod,, about 6 wt.It works perfect, especially with floating poppers or black ants. Good luck bro!
There are as many questions on fly fishing than the meaning of life. It's lucky is not so hard. I would try a good fly shop first. Remember a few things,you don't need a $1000 rod and reel to enjoy the sport,most likely would not even know the the difference between a $100 rod and $800 rod. The reel is there to hold the line in 99% of the cases,unless you are planning to land a 50# fish on 3# tippet put the most of your money in the rod and line. Also don't think you need a fast tip which is all the rage,a slower tip action is much more forgiving if your just getting started.I have rods from Orvis,Fenwick,LL Bean.St.Croix,Sage,Cabelas,etc. all have good points and bad.One last thing almost all high end rods are the same blank just more goodies than the lower priced blanks. Enjoy
Go to Ebay and find a Sage DS2 4,5, or 6 weight. Get the Okuma with WF 6 line and you will be good to go. I love these DS 2 rods and you can probably pick one up for about $125. Great Rods with plenty of back bone and the 6 W will throw some large size stuff. I over line mine with 7 W line and it helps some.
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I think you made a very good choice for a middle of the road outfit. It might be a good idea to get a spare spool for your reel. One could be loaded with a cheaper level line to use when bream fishing and the other loaded with a nice weight forward or bug taper line to use when throwing the heavier bass flies. Later you can add to your arsenal with a nice little 4 wt. for straight bream fishing and then maybe an 8 wt. for throwing the big 1/0 poppers at lunker bass. Your fly fishing journey has just begun. Hang on
Our local bass pro hear in FL does a fly fishing class once a month, check out yours to see if thay can help.
I've been having great luck with big fat sassy bream on itty bitty stuff, so don't feel like big fish only go for big bugs. Same for bass, boy is that a surprise when you're expecting something else :)
Enjoy!
I use and 8' 4wt. I can catch the average 1-2# bass as well as all the gills and specks I want. A 4wt will cast everything but a big popper or hair bug. If you really want to have some fun, get a 1 or 2 wt and become surprised at what you can catch on those...
www.byrdultrafly.com for some info on the 1-2 wt fly fishing rods.
Tie a bead head nymph of some sort or a sinking black ant a couple of feet off the back of your popper and see how much your catch rate improves. I typically probably in the area of 3:1 off the dropper. The last time I fished it I didn't have a single topwater strike but they were tearing up the dropper.
As far as the outfit. A 5 or 6 would be good for bass and bream. You may have problems with really big bass bugs but other than that you should be good. Temple Fork Outfitters offer a good quality rod for less than $100. I've used one of the $40 Okumas and can't complain. Ross Worldwide is also now offering a reel in that price range but it has the drag of the normal Ross reels so it'd probably be a better choice.
I don't know where you're located but http://www.southeastflyfishingforum.com/forum/
is a good flyfishing site and you could look for input from those folks. The board sponsor is a nice guy and has good prices in his store.
Ok, the Ross Flystart which you are speaking of, has a terrible drag. I had one freespool on me right off the fly shop's shelf when I had it tightened down to feel the drag resistance. The Orvis Clearwater is not a bad reel in that price range, has a decent drag, as well as a lifetime warranty, all for $39.00.Quote:
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