I could use some feedback on the knot You use for jigs vs hooks.
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I could use some feedback on the knot You use for jigs vs hooks.
For jigs, the lefty Kreh no slip loop knot. Hangs up much less and better action. For a tight connection I use a knot I robbed from the pro Jason Quinn in a commercial. Don’t know the name of it but it just plain doesn’t slip with either mono or braid. I call it the old man knot cuz I can tie it without my glasses on. I’ll do some research and see if I can find out more.
How to Tie the Easiest and Fastest Fishing Knot Ever! The Speed Knot!
Look for this title on YouTube, this is the knot.
With my old eyes and fumble fingers, I also use the Kreh Non Slip mono knot. An excellent knot and strong - pay attention to the number of wraps around the main line determined by the line strength. My other go to is the Palomar, another very high knot strength, easy to tie. I recently had that knot break on me (a very rare occurrence) and in all fairness it was my fault because I had successfully pulled a jig out of some very bad cover, and had freed my jig from some rock bottoms. I should have retied it but was lazy - my bad. For line to line (such as replacing line tippet) I have been using a double surgeons because it is so easy to tie and a strong knot. You only need to learn a few. How to tie a loop knot, attach a hook to line, and a reliable line to line knot. Practice and be able to tie them well.
Bob
The classic Snell is all I use for my hooks. I use the Kingsling knot for my jigs but I think I'll look into the Lefty Kreigh knot.
The Kreh Non Slip is a good one to have in your arsenal, REH. There are a few nice animated you tubes showing the construction of the knot. I think Lefty had it in the 97% or so strength, so if you think about the true test of the line you’re using Vs pans, crappie and the typical smallie, the knot should not fail. As always be careful as you draw any knot up tight. If it slips in any way, it will fail you.
Bob
I use the Orvis (Becker) knot. I read about it years ago in a fly fishing book. The author was testing various knots for strength. The Orvis knot was his favorite. (He also liked the Trilene and Pitzen knots, but I think Orvis is much easier to tie than either of those.)
If it’s strong enough for bonefish, it’s strong enough for anything I’ll catch.
The Orvis Knot | The Becker Knot | A Better Knot for Bonefish
I don’t think I have tried the Orvis knot, but have used the pitzen. It is a good knot and high break strength but again I can’t tie everything that was so easy years ago...Heck, I still use a Double Turle when attaching dry flies. Many have criticized the knot as weak, and I do know There are stronger ones, but it has been really rare when one failed me. If running a fly or bait requires it to run straight and true and not cock off to side or another for a fussy eater it will do the job.
Bob
We all have our favorites, and to be sure that is probably determined mostly by how we manage as we form the knot. The best knot can and will fail if fashioned up incorrectly. I suggest trying several of the ones mentioned, and maybe a few others, and see which suit your abilities. I mean all of our knots can and will hold fine, if formed correctly, so it really comes down to personal preference and skill set.
Knots are designed for specific purposes, and while one knot might be great for this purpose, trying to get it to work in another may leave it weakened. Read a little about each to determine usefulness. Deep sea knots differ from fly fishing knots for example.
They tell me spitting on the material keeps it from “burning”. I do not seem to suffer from this phenom, but do spit occasionally. It is when the knot has coils and needs to slide that I get spitty. Usually though I get by using my burnt up lines. LOL. Now spitting can and will get a knot to cinch down tighter. Of that there can be no doubt. So spit if it gives you something of value, such as slippery for tightening.
Also materials differ and certainly knot differently. Flouro differs from mono in how it accepts knottings. Try to read some about this and then relate it to the materials you use.
My offering is the Davy Knot. It however is very picky about how it is formed and is easily mistied. This leads to failures obviously. Some throw an extra pass on it and that helps, especially if the original was slightly misformed. LOL. I use it because fly fishermen have been using really light weight mono materials for decades and know which knots tend to fail. They like the Davy, which is actually called something else somewhere else on the planet. I like it because it is quick, simple and compact. It is my choice for fastening to swivels and clips and such.
I would also mention that many fly fishermen use the Cinch Knot, for all the reasons mentioned.
Improved Clinch knot for hooks and non slip loop knot (Kreh) for jigs.
I will say that I used the clinch and improved clinch and, for me, it was a knot that moved a small amount when put to a hard task. That said, I had to leave a noticeable tag for it to stay put. This and my ocd didn’t get along and I went to the speed knot I posted about earlier. I now get no knot problems or lost baits and a pigs tail on the end of the line.
I've tried some of the popular loop knots out there, and they're all tedious compared to the double surgeon loop.Quote:
Originally Posted by PIE GUY
I tend to agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Techno2000
Youve got to consider the type of fish also when watching all those very good videos.
I mean a tarpon is one thing and a Crappie is a whole different thing.
I need to be able to tie a knot on a boat, in a hurry, without looking for my glasses first.
The Richard Gene version on the loop knot which is in fact a Surgeons knot works for me.
Thank you all for your input. I mostly use the improved clinch knot on jig head and hook. Fish mostly 6lb mono with ultra lite gear for all panfish and SMB.
I see a lot using loop knots on their jig heads and will give it a shot.
Pie, you’ll find that there’s more action and less hang ups with the loop. Well worth the learning curve.
loop know only for panfish on jigs and hooks as well for me
nothing ties faster or easier or presents the bait better
not sure how someone could say its difficult to tie
watch my first ever video on how to tie it on youtube
its a 30 seconds max with old eyes knot that will outperform the rest by a country mile
AND no i didnt get paid to say that it either :Rofl
Hey Ketch, I think you’re using the non slip mono? Inquiring mind and all that...
Bob
FWIW, this is the aforementioned speed knot...
How to Tie the Easiest and Fastest Fishing Knot Ever! The Speed Knot! - YouTube
I use the surgeons knot on jig heads. I also use the surgeon knot on aberdeen ...to finish the knot I simply cinch it down on the shank just below the eye.
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