We need to give back

I got mad last night after reading some posts where new crappie fishermen were being dissed for asking questions about tackle and tactics. This was on Facebook which I’m not a fan of and where I’m only a member because some of my sponsors require me to be. I’m no longer a member of those pages. This is what I posted on a site I visit a lot but rarely post on:

I went to 3 different crappie forums I was a member of today and when I logged off, I asked to be removed from each one.

Folks who were new to crappie fishing were trying to ask legitimate questions about tackle and tactics and each time ended up getting shamed by those who didn’t like that so-and-so rod or this or that tactic. It embarrassed me before it chapped my butt.

It seems that many in the crappie community have forgotten that once upon a time, they were a beginner asking many of the same questions but probably had somebody take them under their wing or at least give them honest answers to questions. I seriously doubt any of us had to go thru the BS that is taking over many fishing sites. BTW, one of the sites was one I was a moderator on. I gave up spending my time trying to deal with idiots who never read the terms for membership they agreed to.

I deal with tons of beginners every day on guide trips. People want to know how to do what we do because it looks like fun and they like to eat fish. Many newbies I deal with don’t know which end of the pole points toward the fish but you can bet, at the end of the day, I have taken the time to try to pass along as much info as I could and answer every question they asked. I want them to know why I have my electronics, what they do, and how I use them to be a better fisherman. I’ll show them what equipment I use and how they will use it. If it is a seasoned fisherman, I’ll show them how to go back to their fishing area and catch fish by showing them why I’m fishing a particular area or what about this spot makes it better than another spot.

I’m not in business to give away waypoints and I do keep some cards close to my vest. I have great sponsors who help me a lot but I’m not going to tell anyone those sponsors are the only place they can go for tackle or equipment that might work for them.

We all need to think back about those who helped us learn and where we would be if somebody didn’t take time to answer our questions. We sure didn’t have the forums when Jim Perry or I started. Information now is so much easier to share and quicker to learn if we all work together.

Peace.



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You lost me at Facebook.

Teaching the sport is what it’s all about! Most Social media is pure :puke
im so thankful that Ed and the great Moderators here on C.C for keeping it in line
and C.C has been such a treasure for me because I have met some of the greatest folks in the country and some have became best of friends
and have learned so much from so many because they been willing to help!

Well said, MRD, and needed to be said. I'm not a member of Facebook and have no intention of ever joining. At my age it would be pretty useless, and some of those folks would do nothing but cause aggravation.
Fish On!
Bob

Yes we need to give back and those here on Crappie.com abide by that.

Yes, fakebook is nothing but "mob mentality". Not a good thing at all. It was created by a kid and still has no "adult in the room".

Crappie.com is about giving, and we're led by adults not children. Lets thank our wonderful moderators. And especially "G" as he's still in the hospital and continues to need our prayers for a speedy recovery. Things are looking good for him to be released in the next day or so.

A BIG AMEN. I don't think I would be half as good as I am now if it wasn't for this site.

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So good to hear about “G”. [emoji106]

As far as the other goes it’s called RESPECT, please treat me like you want to be treated.

I’m an old timer (78) been fishing all my life and STILL learning.

Thank you ALL


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Originally Posted by keeferfish

You lost me at Facebook.

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The one and only reason I’m on Facebook is I have some corporate sponsors who have private Facebook pages for Pro Staffers and communicate with us there. I refused to join it for years.


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YES!!!When I found this site I had been treated that way on a couple of Facebook forums. I was scared to ask anything on here. Then I gradually started. I have never had anyone disrespect or make fun of me,to me anyway. Lol. There are a couple in particular that I know I must get on there nerves at times,but they always take the time to answer any questions I have,no matter how simple or stupid they must seem. I’ve had the fortune to fish with both of them and it was game changing experience. I consider them both friends now. And everyone else I’ve reached out to have been the same way. Thanks Slab for such a great site. And thanks everyone else for being great sportsman always ready to help. Just hope I can get good enough one day to pass it forward.


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There is never a stupid question, so ask away. If we don't know something, and don't ask, then it might make us look stupid, lol.

Some time ago I questioned why an inquiry about a particular type of fishing was posted as a poll??? I came off as being snide to some and didn’t mean it that way. Ask your question and you will get what you are asking about. I answered the OP and told him about what he wanted to know. I tell my clients the only dumb question on my boat is one they didn’t ask.


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Well said Mr Dux, unfortunately everything has turned to money, and people don"t have time to mess with the elderly or the young, technology has moved passed so many of us that can"t afford the technology, this site is a good place to go for questions and answers keep it up, you have my respect

I've only been fishing about 2 yrs and there is a ton of stuff I just don't know but often find myself afraid to ask because it appears there are so many people on social media that are confrontational. Those guys on Facebook or social media that have smart aleck replies don't have to worry about getting punched in the mouth.

Again, I'm learning and the past 2 yrs have been a journey buying my own rod/reels, and my first boat 175 Bass Tracker TXW. Cleaned my first crappie 5 months ago and I had to ask someone "how do I clean a fish"! lol. I appreciate this website.

Hunting and fishing forums are essentially my social media. No pro here, but I would help anyone out and take you fishing. In addition to this forum, I enjoy reading this other forum...primarily a bass fishing forum. They have weekly tournaments, which is great. But what really gets me....it is VERY RARE that anyone will tell you what lure(s) worked. Are they afraid someone else will catch a fish. I don't want your waypoints. Anyway...

I have a few pages on Fakebook myself , but much like here ,there is a zero tolerance for ugly comments on mine .
crappie are often times difficult fish to ketch and even more so for beginners , the one thing that really chaps me is some of the " young professional crappie folks " that have a total disrespect for other crappie anglers .
one in particular joined a bunch of less than what they think they are crappie wanna be folks in calling me names on a well known page on fakebook .
And he is by no means the first one on that list , one who travels and EVEN gives seminars on crappie fishing is the same EXACT kind of you know what and used to do the same thing on another forum !
this type of behavior is why I created my own pages on fakebook .
it isnt only the beginners getting disrespected out there for sure .
this type of thing along with a general disrespect for others in this world makes it a rough path to travel some days .
helping others ketch fish is what is high on my list of things to do and even more so if they want to put forth effort to ketch them .
now mind you this , I am NOT in it for money or sponsors and or fame or glory , its just what makes my heart happy ....
ask me anything about ketchn crappie and i will do my best to give you a straight answer .but .....
of course when my bud asked the other day on fakebook what lake ,,,,I went with the american native name on that particular lake ....
its lake "gofindyourownspot " :Rofl
and yes as always in the end and forever and ever ....
KABOOM is still the word :highfive

A site’s reputation can be easily drawn, after even a cursory examination of what is considered tolerable. Everything social needs moderation. That process is what drives the entire system. Visit a needlepoint forum and take a look at what the ladies do. Man you want to talk about ugly.....man they are rough. Nasty.

If you see someone asking, and you are far far too bored to offer them some help, just click away. No need to jab at them. Just move along and someone else will likely come by that isn’t anywhere near as bored.

Mr Dux- I am afraid that quitting those boards as you did will only serve to make them worse. Likely you aren’t the only one leaving.

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Originally Posted by Micanopy

A site’s reputation can be easily drawn, after even a cursory examination of what is considered tolerable. Everything social needs moderation. That process is what drives the entire system. Visit a needlepoint forum and take a look at what the ladies do. Man you want to talk about ugly.....man they are rough. Nasty.

If you see someone asking, and you are far far too bored to offer them some help, just click away. No need to jab at them. Just move along and someone else will likely come by that isn’t anywhere near as bored.

Mr Dux- I am afraid that quitting those boards as you did will only serve to make them worse. Likely you aren’t the only one leaving.

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my friend you need to look real shallow , a jig and a float in 3 to 5 foot of water , in your neck of the woods the fish are on beds doing it . just a quick fyi bro ....
KABOOM is the word

I'm not sure if I'm a better fisherman because of this site but I do know that I'm a better man. Thanks Slab for the site and thanks to Super "G" for all he does and prayers go up for a full and speedy recovery.
PPG

I have crappie fished my whole life and due to work schedule normally by myself. I’m retired now and after joining this site, I realize how inefficient and ineffective my fishing efforts were. I’ve learned a lot here and have always been treated with respect. I hope as I apply the techniques I’ve have been shown here, one day soon I’ll be able to show others these techniques

This is a good thread - thanks MRD for getting it started. I have learned years worth of tips for a fraction of the time!
Bob

There have been a couple or so, years ago, that thought they knew more than the rest of us here. Glad that they are gone, and the rest of us respect each other enough to listen to others approach and techniques. No pro here, and don't have the high end electronics, just a $100.00 fish finder. It serves the purpose for me and not out there to catch a limit, just to enjoy the time spent in God's creation.

I have fished all my life mainly ponds and creeks and the last 5-years for crappie on few lakes after buying my first aluminum boat for $4,900.00 and was uptown in my opinion now able to fish lakes, joined cc in 2019 and it's remarkable the knowledge I have gained from the good folks on this site and it don't have to be the latest technology, just plain and simple knowing what to look for and why, even with a cheap finder. See some of these same folks at the boat ramps and cleaning stations and they are always willing to share knowledge anywhere and anytime including MRD at the ramp and cleaning station at Sportsmans. Anyway, even though I am still a rookie and always will be, it is amazing what I'm asked about crappie fishing from my buddies when we get together due to I usually catch some fish. I try to live right even though it's hard sometimes, and believe in giving even though it hurts sometimes. Would rather the person fishing with me catch a fish than me, watching them light up and then get a little cocky, well that's more fun than me catching. I have never been a facebooker or belonged to any other social media site and NEVER will ..... "Drama to the max". Just wanted to express my sincere gratitude to all the good cc members and folks behind the scenes for this enjoyable and above all, clean fishing forum site!