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i have this wally marshall 7ft signature rod, i sort of have a feeling it lacks sensitivity due to a bit on the noodle side, i normally run 4lb mono line, i am thinking a braid line might enhance some sensitivity, so i am looking for some suggestions on updating my wife on an a good 4 or 6lb braid line for under the tree.
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I have used https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075V1DRR5 in 10 pound and I like it. Assuming you've never used braid this skinny, it's frustrating in the wind trying to tie knots, etc.
For casting purposes I've only used PowerPro 10/2 hi vis braid ... and had no problems with it. That's a 10# breaking strength & 2lb mono diameter equivalent braid ... and I used it without a leader.
I also learned very quickly not to try and pull a jig free from a snag by wrapping the braid around my hand :bash ... which is why I've always recommended having a wood dowel or some such item to wrap the line around, instead of hand/fingers or even a cork/foam rod handle. It can & will cut into any of these things. I also found out that limp braid that's been cut with a knife or various forms of "cutters" will have strands of the braid fibers poking out of the tag end, making it a bit difficult to put the tag end thru the jig eye (even in calm conditions). That problem was solved by purchasing a pair of Fiskar Child Size Scissors at my local Wallymart. These cut the braid "blunt" across the tag end, making it easier to put thru the jig eyes.
I tried braid on a couple of different rods I had, but didn't like the buzzing sound it made running thru the metal guides. I ended up putting it on a 7' Bionic Blade IM8 rod (that is probably med/hvy in Crappie rod terms). The rod has ceramic inserts in the guides & the buzzing sound is far less than on the metal guide rods. With that rod & the braid, even 40+ft away, a solid hookset is merely a 1ft sweep of the rod while continuing to reel. The reel completing the outfit is a Shimano Spirex 2000.
All braid is not created equal....you have cheap inexpensive braid that is terrible, you have middle of the road priced braid which is better, and you have the High End Braid that Eliminates all the issues of the Cheap and Middle priced Braids.
If you know anything about braid, this is one product that you get what you pay for.
High end braid uses the best Material, most strands, best coatings, no color fade, less stretch, is more resistant, and is stronger and smaller in size....Yes, you can catch fish with cheap braid, you can also catch fish with a cane pole. The Choice is yours.
I only use Daiwa MoreThan12 Braid....you can only get it on Ebay or from Japanese distributors and as a full time braid user, I get what I pay for, and it has zero issues. It is a 12 strand braid that has a permanent silicon coating. It's been on my 5 poles now for 3 years with no loss of performance...I can find it for 60 bucks for 150 yards after looking for a few days.
Daiwa, Seaguar, Kastking, Sunline all have good middle priced Braids for 20 bucks for 150 yards.
"Paulus Just Fishing" used to have the best testing site for fishing line and braid testing....he found that Braids like PowerPro, Spider Wire, Berkley, overstated size and broke at high ratings...and that's what people touted...but in reality PowerPro was twice or three times the size of High End braids, and had cheap coatings, and less overall performance.
The Choice is yours!
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Probably just go with the old tried and true PowerPro line for your first time , its been around forever. I like the KastKing yellow 6 lb. braid now for slip floats. It seems just as good as PowerPro, but much cheaper.Quote:
Originally Posted by chetc
My goto braid is Sufix 832. Been using it for years without any troubles at all.
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Get some 10 lb -4 lb diameter, been useing it for years can get or order from Bass pro. No stretch lots of feel, your milage may differ. Braid URL][/URL]Quote:
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First, if you are wanting sensitivity buy a quality rod. There are a lot of those available for around 100 dollars on up. Like someone said all line whether mono or braid is created equal. Braid has it's place and I fish a lot in salt water with fluorocarbon leaders. It use it so I can downsize my gear to catch Bull reds, cobia and such. Its strong and small in diameter so it casts well. That being said, I much prefer mono in most freshwater situations. Braid is aggravating to fish in the wind. If it's windy your going to be dealing with line wrapping around the tip of that seven foot rod. Anyone who tells you differently has either never fished with braid or in windy conditions. Braid floats so if your fishing with someone not fishing braid and its windy ya'll are going to get crossed up and braid is very hard to untangle. If you are spider rigging in cover braid would be excellent. Fished with strong fluorocarbon leader you could avoid breaking off. It works ok long lining but I seem to get more strikes on mono. I believe if you use a quality rod paired with quality line such as stren, trilene or there are others you will enjoy your fishing more.
You gotta laugh at some of this...like all the other misinformation floating around the interweb and social media!lol
*Not all braid floats...braid made with Gore's Polytetrafluoroethylene fibers sink like flourocarbon line...there's several brands of sinking braid. Others braids sink when their coatings being to wear off...remember my first post about cheap braid.
*Almost all wind knots or braid wrapping around the tip are caused by fishermen, and fishermen not knowing how to use braid.
But again, your better braid has coatings to reduce limpness and they dont wear off quickly. You can also purchase rod tips that will not allow any line to wrap the tip.
I fish in the wind all the time for Walleye/Saugeye and have zero issues.
An end to “tip wraps” with braided super-lines…
Did not mean to offend the braid rep. But the truth will stand when the world burns down! I do not use cheap braid, rods, reels or any other equipment. Fortunately, thank the Lord, I do not have to! I also have extensive experience in Fresh and salt water and most consider me to be a competent angler. I am only sharing my experiences and meant no offence. Personally I could care less what you or anybody else chooses to fish with! It is your time and Your money but as I said different lines are better in different situations and thats my story and I'm sticking to it. Have a blessed and Merry Christmas and the Happiest New Year!Quote:
Originally Posted by INTIMIDATOR
just curious, i will probably end up getting another rod, but would cutting 6 or 8 inches of my current wally Marshall 7ft signature rod make the tip area feel a bit stiffer and possibly gain some sensitivity.
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It would probably make you sick at your stomach. The 6 or 8 inches at the tip is the most important for sensitivity. Unless of course, you approach this from the other end....
I have several wally marshall rods I use for long lining and when taking clients. They are good rods. Made by Lews. You can buy a 5'6" or 6' for about 40 bucks. I bought mine so if someone dropped one out or one got jerked out I would not be out a lot of money. I also put rod floats on them. I wandertoo much. Point is they are economical yet enjoyable you might want to try one. Like BroKenneth said you cut the tip off your other one you will ruin it
No offense taken whatsoever....since I only fish with braid and in the wind, I figure I'd just clear up normal fallacies!Quote:
Originally Posted by footballcoach
Same to you...Have a Merry Christmas and Blessed New Year!
Noodle rod doesn’t indicate sensitivity of the rod, neither expensive rod in a hand of uneducated would feel like broom stick.
Braid, again not all equal but most of them have the same characteristic, zero stretch, thinner diameter and float, unless you get special type braid with Gore leader to make is sink faster or 20 stand that a filler spool as expensive as a good rod or reel. Would braid improve sensitivity, yes but when you have tension at all time. A little slack, a big bowl underwater or wind that blow it left and right and you won’t feel a dang thing.
For not too expensive I recommend 6- 8lb Sufix 832, 8 stands soft and quiet, soft but not too soft to get a tip wrap every cast. It cut through water better than same diameter Power Pro so not creat big bowl under water.
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Originally Posted by footballcoach
ROD FLOATS, i wished i did that about 2 months ago, my first trip on my Kayak, i was fishing with a 2 week old baitcasting outfit, like 200 bucks, when i went to put the rod and reel in the rod holder in the kayak in back of me, i thought it was in there but it was in the large open area behind the rod holder, a few min later i was paddling and thought i heard a splash, and presto, it was GONE, was sick the rest of the day, rod floats or tethering from here on out.
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