I have a kayak but that’s it and no sonar. Any tips?
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I have a kayak but that’s it and no sonar. Any tips?
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Learn to fish a jig. The jig is a “search and destroy” fishing weapon. Fish it slowly and experiment with different depths at each location. If you don’t get hits, move.Quote:
Originally Posted by castingcole
Standing & fallen timber - bridge pillars - docks - and other forms of cover .... plus points, channels, cliff walls, sharp bends, and other forms of structure .... all have a time when the fish will be there.
A waterproof map of that particular lake can be of assistance for general depths & contours ... & when used in conjunction with the visible cover can also help in picking out potential areas.
Learn the "normal" seasonal movements of the fish, but more importantly (??) learn the seasonal movements of the primary baitfish species of that lake. Crappie are not going to be congregated in an area where the baitfish are not !!
What he said
Move quickly and fish slowly. Bridge pillars, shooting docks, and any standing timber should be plenty to get you started.
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Not directly answering your question but see if you can find a copy of this book:
Amazon.com
Lots of good info there on perch, bluegill and our favorite, the crappie. I think you'll find it a good read.
And if you can't swing it, send me your name and address in a PM and I'll mail you my copy for you to read and then to pass on to another guy starting out.
All you gotta do is find one fish
See this video on a $5 Livescope from "Walking on Water"
LIVESCOPE DIY 5.00 WOW - YouTube
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REALLY??????Quote:
Originally Posted by CocoLoco
In my opinion, that violates all aspects of fair and ethical. I'd rather be skunked 10 days in a row than resort to that.
I don’t think I’m a fan of that either. Just doesn’t seem right.
When you really stop and think about sonar and DI in 15 fow your view is really only about 4 feet of the bottom. That is not to say that they can't be great tools... I have 3 on my boat. 2 are low end and older and one is on loan and kinda gifted from a good friend. Learn to judge depth by rod length + number of one foot pulls. Learn to look at slopes of banks and imagine it's depth as it flows back to you. Learn to look for large blowdown trees that appear to slope down at a 45 degree. Odds are they run out 40 feet and span the entire water column. These are gold mines. If you can't find fish of some kind on a tree like that. Go home they ain't biting. When you find fish on that tree figure out how deep the bottom is rod+ 1ft pulls and how deep they are in the water column in relation to the bottom. Ex... Fish are 6ft down in 12 fow. They are relatively close to that on every structure you can see. Move quick but fish slow. When you catch a fish KNOW how deep it was and in what depth of water. That is easier said than done....but it's required to learn how to catch rather than fish. It's harder to do without sonar but it can be done. I can't tell you the number of times my wife or my boat partner says....Why are we fishing here there's nothing on the screen? Well honey we ain't fishing under the boat we fishing right here. That box can't reach "here".
There is more to it if your fishing a watershed body... something with flow. Main thing is fish pretty much always look into the current and/or into the wind...that's the direction there next meal is coming from. Also learn to look for eddys or reverse flow... Those need to be fished. Fish will stack in those because food is coming at them from both directions and they don't have to exhaust energy to stay put.
Hope this helps and dang good question.
Chad
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Throw 2 lines out the back and paddle, or use a trolling motor. It's called long line trolling and it works. Experiment with differing amounts of line let out and different jigs with small split shots
That what i do when i use my canoe with a trolling motor but kinda a pain to do with a kayak or canoe using a paddle but that may just be me.
That is totally illegal in my home state. I wonder what tournament fishers would think of this so called livescoping? Any comments?Quote:
Originally Posted by CocoLoco
That method would not be allowed IMHO for tournament fishing. Having said that, I have used this method before for fun fishing when I want a few fish for dinner and do not have much time. I have seen other anglers use balloons in a similar fashion when fishing for larger species or in deeper water. Like I said though, I would NOT USE the method in a tournament setting.Quote:
Originally Posted by CocoLoco
Mike
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1XGJLCJLnE
To each their own but I'm not going to do it. It's as 6poundtest said violates all aspects of fair and ethical to me.
putting a float on a fish is a well known desperation technique , it is illegal here it Texas .
using a crappie body part is also illegal here and yet another known desperation technique .
There are a bunch of ways to ketch crappie without a graph and alot of them are ethical and legal .
i stand on the bank more than half the time i ketch crappie and dont use a graph when i do it .
look for structure/cover visible above the water line and fish it SLOWLY ...patience is often the key.
anything stationery in water at any depth might hold crappie anytime of the year .
very steep banks are often a good place to search as well .
if you are dipping jigs SCENT on them is a must .
also use the ask questions method , not direct ones .....just general questions .
good / great crappie anglers often wont tell much ....
play dumb and they might possibly tell you something good in doubts you will be able to do it or find it .
i simply love the clueless card myself , works wonders on the they think are intelligent folks ....
be sure to use some less than proper grammar to seal the deal as well ..................................:Rofl
and YES < KABOOM iz da wurd mi frenz :crazy:
ok cool, I almost only fish jigs right now anyway so that is good. Thanks for th einformation
awesome will have to try that thank you
than fro the infomatshun
wow this is genius tahnk you. Not sure if I am going to do it but thank you for the informtaion! I'm not tourdament fisher so that shouldnt be an issue - thank you!
trust me on this sir , some of the really great crappie anglers out there do not fish in crappie tournaments .
this much is factual and the hardcore really good non professional crappie anglers you might cross paths with are often tight lipped .
lots of them dont talk much from what i have seen ....just saying :Rofl
Well, I have never put a float or balloon on a fish but I have only seen livescope on youtube. Please don't jump down my throat but, what is the difference in looking at a fish on a screen and lowering a jig down to him vs following a float or balloon around trying to keep up with a school of fish?
To me it's morals and sportsmanship. Its sort of like would you rather hunt animals by actively hunting and searching for them with binoculars or by wounding one and then following it back to den or wherever to kill the others? I do not know if this is legal in my state, I do not care. This is not how I choose to fish. Part of fishing I enjoy is the hunt for them then catching not shooting fish in a barrel. :twocents
While I would not fish using a ballon or cork attached to a line since it is illegal here I don't see your comparasion between hunting and fishing. In many areas hunters bait an area with corn or other feed or a salt lick to pull the deer to them. I don't see much difference in this practice than attaching a line to a crappie to find the location of other crappie.
The animal you hunt has no say in it's death since you shoot it from a distance.
A fish doesn't get caugth until it opens its mouth and takes the bait.
Nor do I see much difference in attaching a line to a fish to find their location or using a fish finder to find their location, other than the first method is illegal in the states i have fished.. Both are aftifical means to locate the fish. I have never attached a line to find the location of fish but I have used fish finders from the day I was able to afford to buy one.
In my case, it crosses a line that is near impossible to define but morals and sportsmanship is the general idea. We each have drawn a line of what constitutes fair chase of fish and game. Tying a float to a fish crosses my line and I won't do it; I'm actually disgusted by the very thought of it. Using technology to put me in the general area where the fish are doesn't cross my line.Quote:
Originally Posted by jay the baptist
The way I see it is the question of Are you fishing to eat or are you fishing for sport? Some folks actually would like to eat a fish once in awhile rather then hunt them and release,,,same with deer hunting,,,,I'm not interested in eating horns,,, just some deer meat,,
What is the book and author ?
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This thread is so derailed. nonono
Clowns use balloons. Certainly not a Fisherman. Using game fish for bait.... Avoid me on the waterQuote:
Originally Posted by SuperDave336
It's certainly a slim moral line between scents and lights to attract fish, fish finders, live view radars, fish cams to actually see them under water, and hooking one and following the bobber.
Is dropping a buoy where I first catch a fish immoral, or can I only use GPS to find that exact location again to be 'moral'?
One could argue the difference is money...
The exact line of morality is usually a touch different between each of us....but we all should be obeying the local laws.
Don't like the law, lobby to get it changed or move somewhere that you agree with is my view.
Either fish visable cover or look out in open water. Drop a bouy when you catch one and circle that area
I hook little fishies to corks all the time to help me find fish. When I feel him shaking with fear I know I'm getting close to them. BANGSHEAD.
Another good tip I would offer is keep a journal of fish caught, depth, water temperature and location that sort of thing. I would also say it is equally important to keep the dates when you strikeout. I am constantly referring to it each year and building it.
14 NOVEMBER 2019, 03:54 PM
Flint Creek
Caught close to 30 quality fish at Lurleen and the tree before Charlie's bank water was 48 and clear. Dropping barometer mostly minnows light weight pendulum.
This is one from last year that I am headed back to tommorow. It'll be a little different because water should still be in the mid to high 50's.
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Pretty good idea. Not sure or not if I like it. Doesn’t seem much different than livescope to me. Prob will never use either
Dude,,, Texas guys use helicopters for hog hunting ...
I have always wanted to launch a drone spider rigging to look for bait fish.
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Looks like I'm late to this party.
However, buy a Hot Spots Lake map. Read it and fish the recommended areas.
Fish the creek channels near shore, trees, and weed edges.