i am hearing some fisherman say to me about some reels, i asked them how they like this reel and that reel, some say this one is notorious for line twist, is this true or a myth. thinking of the president 20 series. any issues
chet
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i am hearing some fisherman say to me about some reels, i asked them how they like this reel and that reel, some say this one is notorious for line twist, is this true or a myth. thinking of the president 20 series. any issues
chet
Not a myth. Some reels are much better at reducing line twist more than others. I have not had any line twist issues in 8 years. All my reels have 2 bearings in the line roller. Of course when you start looking for reels with twin roller bearings the price goes up. A whole lot of reels don’t even have one line roller bearing...they just have a bushing.Quote:
Originally Posted by chetc
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That 20 has a small spool. Small spools have more coils. I had a few of them over the years. They do coil tremendously with mono. Micro braids may be better but I don’t fish braid for panfish.
if you use mono the smaller the spool the worse the twist and especially so on the cheaper mono lines . as far as one reel being worse than the next i am not sure positive . similar size reels/spools seem to have similar twist issues it seems to me .
age of the line has play in it as well ,older mono will for sure have serious twist if it is on the reel a while and not used .
that's is what i was thinking, that the smaller dia spools are not ideal when it comes to line twist and memory, so i know the larger spool diameters are better, But does anyone make a LIGHT weight reel with larger spool dia. and still a small body. trying to stay max weight around 7 oz
chet
Yeah, their name is “Daiwa”, and the reel is the SS 700.Quote:
Originally Posted by chetc
Pflueger has the Arbor reel. Don't think you can get it smaller then the 30 though. 8.5 oz.
I have 1/2 doz. #20 Presidents and haven't any issues with line twist. However, I use a 2# test braid as my main line. Haven't experienced any line issue in the last 10 - 12 years using this. I agree, the smaller the spool diameter the greater the risk of line twist WITH MONO becomes. Not so much with other lines though.
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wonder if fluorocarbon would have less memory.
chet
I got two and have been happy with them. If you get twist in a boat let out a bunch of line with nothing attached to it and drive your boat around for ten to 15 minutes usually takes the twist out.
we like to take our line memory twist out by ripping fish lips , it takes that line back to limp and straight right fast :Rofl
2lb test Stren Crappie works well on the 20 Pflueger. Yes, there is some twist from time to time but I peel a little off and good to go. The line is cheap enough. Also, I keep the roller bearing well lubricated. I can see where heavier mono would give some problems. On my small stream it works well for me.
Bob
Somethings I have learned. And with these things and a dollar you can't buy a cup of coffee.
1. Good roller bearings matter because they stay heathier longer and allow spool to work properly.
2. Never try to reel while a fish is overcoming your drag. You are twisting the line.
3. The fact that the reel spools at a 90 degree promotes twist. Bait cast reels don't twist. Learn to live with some of it.
4. Don't overfill the reel. It will cause wind knots especially when it is windy. At that point line twist Is the least of your worries.
5. After spooling fresh line tie the line to a tree limb. Loosen the drag. Walk a good distance tighten the drag and stretch the line. Lay the rod down. Go back to the tree and cut the line and just throw the line down. Walk back to rod and start reeling line up using other hand to keep tension so the line lays rather than stacks. DO NOT overpower the drag or it will twist.
7. Repeat this task of stretching and removing twist as needed. I prefer to do it with a cold beverage the night before.
6. Close the bail by hand after each cast and give the line a little tug. This checks to make sure drag is where you want it and it stops slack at the reel... I got this idea from Richard Gene.
7. Memory and twist are separate issues. If memory is a hot button with you fish braid. I personally can't stand to cast it. And all the good mono brands are cheap and easy to get to. And please be responsible and dispose of properly. I spool it out on the ground and it melt it with a hand torch and chunk it away. In the garbage It draws up to the size of nickle.
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Good stuff. Closely related to #2 is to avoid reeling under tension when possible. I see too many people trying to winch fish in with a spinning reel. Pump up the fish with the rod, reel down on slack or much less tension.
Soaking the new spool of mono line in a bucket of water for about a week before spooling it on your reel helps too.
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1. Good roller bearings matter because they stay heathier longer and allow spool to work properly.
2. Never try to reel while a fish is overcoming your drag. You are twisting the line.
3. The fact that the reel spools at a 90 degree promotes twist. Bait cast reels don't twist. Learn to live with some of it.
4. Don't overfill the reel. It will cause wind knots especially when it is windy. At that point line twist Is the least of your worries.
5. After spooling fresh line tie the line to a tree limb. Loosen the drag. Walk a good distance tighten the drag and stretch the line. Lay the rod down. Go back to the tree and cut the line and just throw the line down. Walk back to rod and start reeling line up using other hand to keep tension so the line lays rather than stacks. DO NOT overpower the drag or it will twist.
7. Repeat this task of stretching and removing twist as needed. I prefer to do it with a cold beverage the night before.
6. Close the bail by hand after each cast and give the line a little tug. This checks to make sure drag is where you want it and it stops slack at the reel... I got this idea from Richard Gene.
7. Memory and twist are separate issues. If memory is a hot button with you fish braid. I personally can't stand to cast it. And all the good mono brands are cheap and easy to get to. And please be responsible and dispose of properly. I spool it out on the ground and it melt it with a hand torch and chunk it away. In the garbage It draws up to the size of nickle.
I use the 20 series but prefer the 25 series . Spool on line as it comes off the spool . Close bail by hand . Do not reel when line being stripped . Not a major issue to me . Like Ketchn says catching fish helps . Attachment 386580