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Just asking for a friend how many people would be interested in having a non livescope non 360 crappie tournament, you know standard di/si graphs, maybe a 3 or 4 fish limit, size limit of lake. $40 entry 80% payback. Tell you the name of the lake the Friday at lunch before tournament, drawn from hat. You know for the average weekend warriors like myself.
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When r you thinking bout having itQuote:
Originally Posted by Nosjunkie240
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Which lakes would be in the hat?
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I think Jordan,Harris , Tillery, High rock,badin,tuckertown, maybe randlemen alsoQuote:
Originally Posted by ofishlbizzness
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No certain time right now just wonderingQuote:
Originally Posted by mac crappie
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The only thing I worry about is getting a blanket weigh in permit, because I will not choose lake till the day before, I will have to call nc wildlife to see if they will do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nosjunkie240
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I’m interested as long as I’m in town. I have a LiveScope but could remove the transducer or something.
i would like to see the payback greater than 80%, also id keep it to atleast 5 fish, every crappie tournamentt i know of is 7, the less fish you have, the more emphasis it puts on that one big kicker
the future of crappie fishing is artificial only, might be something to consider aswell, also what kinda rod limit are you thinking of having?
i have a livescope, ain't pulling the ducer but i will certainly just unhook the head unit and leave it in the truck, though i can't say as i have ever won a tournament due to my livescope, i personally think its just an excuse people who don't have one use, its not dynamite, you might can see something you think might be a crappie but that don't mean its gonna bite
on the other hand though there are folks who would really struggle without a livescope, its just another tool
i do like the idea of no prefishing just go have at it blind, you could make it a big deal the evening before like drawing a name out of a hat, i know of a bass club that does that, guys that only get the weekends off really like it
you only need a permit if you have over X amount of boats, i think its over 10 i cannot remember, better call to be sure, and you can always avoid a fee by having the wieghin elsewhere, lots of bait and tackleshops would llike to have a bunch of boats in the parking lot, somebody is gonna wonder in and buy something if nothing but a drink and a pack of nabs, you might even get them to sponsor the tournament
Ok the 3 fish limit came from a tournament that Chris Miller put on at high Rock a few weeks ago I absolutely loved it and seemed like most of the people that fished it did too,something different. As a artificial only not for me and probably not for a lot others either,and as far as livescope as an excuse I would say it is an advantage and people who cannot afford it should not have to be destroyed at every tournament because of it, the last 3 tournaments at high rock have been dominated by livescope, the guys that have won put in the time and are great at using it, it is proven that when you pull up to a brush pile with livescope and you don’t see the quality of fish you need you leave it, with conventional sonar you have to waste time fishing through the little fish to see if any big ones are there.Quote:
Originally Posted by gobbler
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Here kinda Proves that livescope is Dominating the tournament series. Attachment 385972
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I had a livescope and was actually pretty good at using it but sold it to my BIL, but for reasons that might make some laugh or some may relate. I realized one day while fishing with my sons that I had been drifting away from what made fishing (any fishing) special for this old soul..and it was the mystery and ANTICIPATION of things while on the water or in the woods. Let me add that i'm also a weekend warrior with 3 sons (shadows lol) who are always with me when they're not in HS sports. Seeing fish on my sonar and seeing them on livescope were 2 totally different things for us..yeah my kids love their video games during the rare time they're not in the outdoors or chasing girls :) but after a few trips they said the fun of the hit was not knowing when it was coming..the tick, the thump..was like a jump scare to them. Then came the 9" -10" - 11" crappie that was always awesome every time it flopped on the deck became "not bad" or "kinda small". The old saying "to each their own" is as true now as ever, but for this old guy I realized their are some things, like my first lab, that can't ever be replaced no matter the price tag and my hope is that Livescope (as it becomes more widespread and affordable) doesn't rob future generations of fisherman from experiencing some of the special things about being on the water by staring at the screen all day like we were doing. (red tail hawks screaming, beavers swimming, ducks, deer on the shore, squirrels running thru the trees and so many others). God bless everyone.
Man that is awesome and I also agree with you on everything you just said, I have 2 sons and they absolutely love the waiting for that next bite because you never know what it could be , from what I see from livescope fishermen they never ever take their eyes off of the screen, so in my mind when do they ever time to talk to their fishing buddies and cut up or like me have some very good talks with my children while we are easing around waiting on that next bite man thank you for posting this.Quote:
Originally Posted by vfarmint
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What about the 80% payback? Where is the 20% going, a livescope fund? Lol
Who you think is going to have to buy the scales and spend the time finding a place to weigh in and get permits and lose 1.5hrs of fishing time getting stuff setup to do the weigh in and who is going to buy the kids prizes and the other prizes that I would give away. That would be ME ,so for the first tournament the payout would be 80% if I have anymore tournaments then the payout would go to 100% , so I would say to you if you have a problem with that then go spend $160 to fish at other tournaments and throw away your money.Quote:
Originally Posted by gobbler
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Maybe do just like we did in the old days, just go fishing and do a fish fry at the end.
Why does everything have to be a competition nowadays?
That sounds good too , but I don’t eat fish lol maybe I could cook me and my boys hamburgers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nater
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Originally Posted by Nosjunkie240
i have told you how to avoid permit fees, and i m sure if you contacted monks crappie or ed at southern crappie rods they would be more than happy to donate a few items for the youth, i also have a set of postal scales that i have used before in tournaments, they wiegh to the thousanth of an ounce that i would be happy to lend
but to tell me im throwing my money away when i enter a tournament reminds me alot of my exwife, i fish tournaments to learn and get better and help support the growth of crappie fishing, some days you do well some days you don't thats fishing, nobody i mean nobody is winning everyday, we all have bad days, you talk about those fellas winning back to back because of livescope, i can recall this past may a tournament on that same lake where that livescope sure didn't help them, you will have times when you have figured something out and you are flat on them, then you will have those days where you scratch your head, years back it was the one rod guys complaining about the multi pole fisherman, then it was the guys complaining they didn't have side imaging and now its livescope, i personally fish tournaments to learn and get better
my first tournament i ever fished was on fishing creek in sc with the now defunct southern crappie association, there were 52 boats and we finished 26th, it was an eye opening experience, but i used that to grow positively, no bitterly its really all about perspective and how you are gonna deal with circumstances, you can learn and get better or you can make excuses and become stagnate
i think the real niche that needs to be filled if you are truly looking to start a few tournaments for the right reasons would be an adult youth league, that would be fun, and it would help the sport to truly grow
but untill then excuse me , i need to get my stuff ready to ride down to greenwood this week to go throw my money away
Thanks for your input, everyone has an opinion, but for you to make the comment you did about using the money for live scope fund was not called for. I was simply trying to make a tournament for the average joes that don’t get to fish 3 days a week and show up knowing exactly where the fish are, I put in as much time as I can raising a family and working 9-10 hrs a day and I fish as hard as anybody, I have some great ideas for children and I might try to get some stuff donated , but that comment should have never been said, I know you don’t know me, but if you did you would know that I would never try to rip anyone off.Quote:
Originally Posted by gobbler
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I see no problem with anyone running a tournament with the goal of making money. What's wrong with that? You know the rules when you sign up. If you don't like the payout, don't fish it.
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Why don't you ask for help in planning! Gobbler can help for free. Look how money you just saved! :twocents
I agree with what your saying about the live scope and 360, I wanted to fish some of the Yadkin river trail series, but I don’t stand a chance without the equipment that those guys have. The last 2 tournament results posted on here reflect what I’m saying, first three places for cash are livescope fishermen. Nothing wrong with it, I just don’t have the funds to invest in the equipment.
Don't let electronics stop you! I fish with a 5" Hummingbird 598. Did just as well as Gobbler at Highrock and I believe said he has Livescope. I plan on fishing both Yadkin and Fish the Carolinas. In my mind even if you place well (Which I have a few times) there is ALWAYS something to learn!
Exactly. Glad you could use my misfortune as inspiration lol, if you come to santee find me at the wieghin and let me know who you are and say hey, should be some real pigs brought in down there
I have the older panoptix. You can still compete with guys with 10k in electronics. I fish a lot of bass tournaments and watch people get intimidated by big graphs and all the tech. And then you see guys roll up in a jon boat with two rods and a sack of fish. It’s all useful if you spend a lot of time learning how to utilize the tech but trying to avoid fishing against it it futile. In two years the stuff we have now going to be obsolete and something new is going to come out and change fishing again. Just my two cents.
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Originally Posted by gobbler
It’s funny how people think when you got livescope you win every tourney. Livescope can help locate them just like 2d can help
Locate bait. Just like side imaging can locate structure. You still got to catch them. If your not in an area where big fish are it don’t matter anyway. We have spent hundreds of hours looking at the livescope screen per the past two years and I can honestly say you may catch 25 percent of the big tournament fish you actually see. I support a non livescope tourney as much an an artificial only tourney as well. I don’t care if it’s a no electronics tourney. Anyone that knows me knows I just love to fish have fun and want anyone on the fence thinking about fishing a tournament to join in. The friendships I’ve made well outweighs any winning ls to me. 100 percent honest
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Would really love to join you all out there someday for one of your clashes. To make it really "fair" why not leave all electronics in the parking lot? Just my opinion, don't let me slow ya down.
I was actually pretty good at using it but sold it to my BIL, but for reasons that might make some laugh or some may relate. I realized one day while fishing with my sons that I had been drifting away from what made fishing (any fishing) special for this old soul..and it was the mystery and ANTICIPATION of things while on the water or in the woods. Let me add that i'm also a weekend warrior with 3 sons (shadows lol) who are always with me when they're not in HS sports. Seeing fish on my sonar and seeing them on livescope were 2 totally different things for us..yeah my kids love their video games during the rare time they're not in the outdoors or chasing girls but after a few trips they said the fun of the hit was not knowing when it was coming..the tick, the thump..was like a jump scare to them. Then came the 9" -10" - 11" crappie that was always awesome every time it flopped on the deck became "not bad" or "kinda small". The old saying "to each their own" is as true now as ever, but for this old guy I realized their are some things, like my first lab, that can't ever be replaced no matter the price tag and my hope is that Livescope (as it becomes more widespread and affordable) doesn't rob future generations of fisherman from experiencing some of the special things about being on the water by staring at the screen all day like we were doing. (red tail hawks screaming, beavers swimming, ducks, deer on the shore, squirrels running thru the trees and so many others). God bless everyone.
Your post is true nationwide on the vast majority of crappie tournaments..irrefutable fact. But there’s always a chance to do well but would but would require a lot of past fishing history on the particular lake.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrappieTuttle
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How bout a single pole tourney?
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[QUOTE=Wylie;4093054]How bout a single pole tourney?
Not many of the non Livescope crowd wants to hear that, lol
[QUOTE=Roy;4093180]I know. I gotta be a jokester lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Wylie
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I like it! I’ll never forget last year I was out and about on a Saturday fishin alone in March. I have an older Garmin striker. You can get em way under 100 nowadays. All I needed was speed for longlining and that thing takes care of it. Then, all my dock shooting is based on me and myself not no technology. And that day for fun I weighed 7 fish myself that woulda beat out a tournament ppl was having on same lake. Woulda won by 2 lbs. Luck? Skill? I dunno. More fun the less tech is all I’m sayin lolQuote:
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To each their own is all I can say. Some love to sit in the shade on the bank and fish. Whatever floats your boat.
I have a full Network of Garmin electronics..(2) 122sv sets, 56UHD transducer & Livescope all Networked together. I honestly enjoy the 2D/SI/DI better than the Livescope. More time to look around as 1 poster said. I will say that Roy & Genec are the best I have seen at putting big crappie in the boat.. I will get another first hand look at their technique next week using Livescope & I know I will enjoy watching them do their thing.:fish
I would be interested in a non-live scope tournament. Just schedule after mid-February please. I am trying to rehab from this rotator cuff surgery.
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