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i recently posted about shad type baits, been saying i like the bobby garland shad baits, after a few weeks of fishing them i notice they tear easily and split when i slip them over a barbed jig.. is there a similar bait out there that is a little tougher. i have some crappie magnet brand baits they seem to be more durable but cannot find a shad like the bobby garland one style,
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cut the barb off your jig and super glue on. or use string like Richard Gene the fishing machine does , both work good.
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Check out bobsjigs.com Good stuff ! They don’t near as easy! :twocents
Check out Slab Bandits by a Texas company called Crazy Angler. They are the toughest plastic baits I have tried.
I like the "Double Cross" jig heads offered by Crappie Magnet. They have smaller, side hooks instead of one large one. Seem to hole the softer plastics on well. Available at Grizzly Jig Co..
Most all tied jigs are considerably more durable than plastics. 50 years of experience with both.Sent from my SM-G960U using Crappie.com Fishing mobile appQuote:
Originally Posted by chetc
It's a compromise. The softness adds to the action, you can make them tougher but they make not work as well.
I have no complaints about Slabanator jig bodies. They do seem to be as soft and a bit more durable than some commercial brand plastics I've tried. And yes, I do use them on jigheads with a retainer barb. :twocents
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Originally Posted by ichabod
also as mentioned Bob’s Jigs and Slabanator Jigs are both really good. The toughest and most durable I’ve ever seen are Constant Pursuit though. No matter what though if you use barbs they all will tear. Maybe try a keeper hook instead of barb.
I fish a lot of jigs, both crappie and smallmouth, and prefer a jig without a barb and the softest plastic baits. Glue is your friend. But I've seen the vid by Richard Gene about making weed guards. If you have time this will work fine. I try to use a single wire weed guard on any jig fishing when the need arises. If I have time to make up jigs I'll be fishing.
Cheap unpainted ball head jigs for me for crappie. A good hook file comes in handy too even with a weed guard.
I have on many occasions fished a hand tied chennile and hair or hackle tails the entire day catching at times my limit of crappie on one jig. I couldn't do that with any of the many plastics I own. I have fished a lot of plastics for crappie quite successfully. Not trying to talk down plastics.
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I made a boo-boo. Do want barb on hook just don't want collar with bait keeperQuote:
Originally Posted by Speckalator
collared jig heads will kill even the toughest of plastics really quickly .
limits tackle and constant pursuit make the toughest I have seen but as mentioned less tail action .
a bud I know that makes some baits uses a saltwater formula plastic that is soft and durable .
Yes Limits Tackle is another very good durable bait. Sorry I forgot about them earlier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ketchn
I hit 57 fish with a limits tackle plastic last week ....just a quick fyi
and its going to the water AGAIN in a few :yikes
KABOOM! and we need pics!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ketchn
look at the expectations post , same bait different rod and day
only 24 on that visit on that one of those baits , but i got lucky and got the jig back after a fish broke me off at the spool .
grabbed the line before the fish realized what happened ...:cheers2
Bonehead soft plastics are the toughest I've found and I seem to catch just as many fish as softer plastics. In shad body profile, they are pretty much all I will buy now.
Another good bait that I've had great success with has been the "Beaver Bottom Baits". They are still very soft but don't split and will stay on a jig well, but keep in mind they are not a shad body profile if that's what you're looking for. As far as toughness goes, again my vote goes towards Bonehead.
slabanator shad bodies and trim barb on jig down, then super glue.. Bobs jigs are also great order from both. Super glue works wonders on longevity of jig bodies.
Solution I've posted many times:Quote:
collared jig heads will kill even the toughest of plastics really quickly .
limits tackle and constant pursuit make the toughest I have seen but as mentioned less tail action
1.Either buy no collar jigs or flatten the collar with pliers and cut them off using a wire cutter and then
2.Easily attach a soft plastic grub grip using the following method:
https://i.imgur.com/FpfkbY3.jpg?1
https://i.imgur.com/YfnOlbX.jpg?1
https://i.imgur.com/JySewQV.jpg?1
wrap once tightly:
https://i.imgur.com/BrUYzE3.jpg?1
snip one end close and bend tight with pilers:
https://i.imgur.com/Cy6KDWT.jpg?1
bend wire into an L shape:
https://i.imgur.com/LZxvzBH.jpg?2
swing the tip into the grub, worm or any other soft plastic:
https://i.imgur.com/ol66wyX.jpg?1
The grub grip NEVER limits strikes. Works for any size or style jig.
Wouldn't fish without them:
https://i.imgur.com/NGvDxoF.jpg?1
In fact I caught 49 fish (4 species) yesterday using only soft plastics and the grub grip with bass as small as 2-3"!
https://i.imgur.com/C6LciJX.jpg
Collars destroy soft plastic or if enough fish are caught the grub constantly slides back down the hook making the grub useless.
Doubt anyone on this forum has ever tried it even though I proven over the years that grubs can be used over and over for far more fish caught than not using it. It take little time and effort to make. A buddy I fish with uses Crappie Magnet Grubs with the gripper and caught over 30 fish on one single grub before the tail fell off!
I will second this. Bonehead bodies are tough as nails but they really need to work on expanding their color selectionsQuote:
Originally Posted by Srongchoo
I tried spoonminnow's method and didn't care for it. Part of it was probably my inexperience with attaching the wire.
I like Richard Gene's method. I use upholstery thread (uncoated) instead of dental floss (the dental floss seems like a bad idea due to the wax coating). I run the end of the thread through the eye so I can keep it gripped and wrap down the shank most of the way to the bend, then run it back up. This puts both ends of the thread up near the head. A small drop of super glue holds the thread ends near the head. I do several jig heads this way. Snip the ends once the glue has taken hold. Then thread your baits on. Once the bait is straight, I pull it down, put superglue on the rest of the thread on the shank, and push the bait back to the top. Superglue will bond it within a few seconds.
I put the thread down so far and superglue it all the way because those danged bluegill will abuse that bait. If you glue just up toward the head, they'll rip the body further down.
The downside to this method is that changing baits means changing hooks. Playing with superglue on the water isn't as much fun as it sounds.
I am bias i only use my jigs (slabanator jigs). This may sound far fetched but i have went fishing 3 or 4 days in a row using the exact same jigs and caught over 100 fish on them. That is pushing with 4 poles. The jigs splitting when you put them on is more than likely where they have mot been dual injected and from using very soft plastic. The same thing can happen if you use to hard plastic.....this is the very reason i started dual injecting my shad type baits...
have you tried limits tackle or constant pursuit plastics ? i have used alot of bonehead plastics and they are good baits but i am pretty sure not tougher than the 2 i mentionedQuote:
Originally Posted by Srongchoo
I have not. I’ll have to look into themQuote:
Originally Posted by Ketchn
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Crappie Monster makes some good tough baits,.I been using there Uppercuts and they really hold up well plus they catch fish.I saw on there website that they make a shad style bait as well,I never tried it but if its like the Uppercut then it will be durable.
I got some Chinese baby’s shad type, a little tougher but Plastic smell pretty bad, crappie max is also tougher but all in all BG baby shad is the best.
Try my way of rigging, I tested them for the past 300-400 crappies, it last at least 15-20 crappie, last night I only used one BG baby shad for at least 30 crappie. I like this better than super glue for easiness of changing plastic.
Small company I’ve had a lot of success with is Pourhouse Custom baits. Excellent selection on these tough baits too. I’m partial to the Nervous Wrecks series.
Seems to be a face book only vendor? Or am I missing an accessible web page other than facebook?Quote:
Originally Posted by chaunc
is that shrink tube with a spacer of some kind on the shankQuote:
Originally Posted by Just_Bass
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Look up constant pursuit Outfitters:problem solved.
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Yeah shrink tube, I add a piece of wire to make shrink tube tighter but not necessary.Quote:
Originally Posted by chetc
I also prefer collarless jigs, and often use a tiny dab of gel superglue to hold the plastic to the head. I have also started using the R. Gene thread wrapping idea, using heavy thread instead of dental floss. Since I have a jig vise, it is easy to wrap several jigs before a fishing trip. The Locktite brand superglue gel in their mess-free bottle is easier to apply in the boat without gluing your fingers than those fiddly little tubes.