Livescope Battery Question - Advice Needed

I have been thinking about putting in a separate battery for my Livescope setup. I’ve been exploring buying a Lithium battery strictly for my Livescope. Have any of you guys used a 12v, 20+AH Lithium battery? Also, I’ve read where some people say your unit and the black box should be on the same battery. I would like to know if any of you have had issues powering them off of separate batteries. I have a 10ga wire already run for the black box and I was just wanting to swap it over to the lithium and just leave my unit wired as it is, which is on an accessory circuit coming off of the cranking battery. Any advice you guys can share would be appreciated.

Thanks and Tight Lines,
Richard

These guys at Seelite.com SeeFish 18v Milwaukee adapter – SeeLite are building a adapter for Milwaukee batteries that will run your black box. I have read a bunch about this conversion and everything I have read has been positive. One word of caution I have seen. Lots of similar adapters out there on eBay a lot cheaper but have seen where most of them are not well made and seem to warp in heat plus most I looked at most of wiring is pretty small. And all the reviews I have read on these guys is they build good products and great customer service. They also were coming out with adapter for other tool batteries so you might just give them a call most are using the 18 but it should work off 12 just fine.
Hope this helps.

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These guys are building a adapter for Milwaukee batteries that will run your black box. I have read a bunch about this conversion and everything I have read has been positive. One word of caution I have seen. Lots of similar adapters out there on eBay a lot cheaper but have seen where most of them are not well made and seem to warp in heat plus most I looked at most of wiring is pretty small. And all the reviews I have read on these guys is they build good products and great customer service. They also were coming out with adapter for other tool batteries so you might just give them a call most are using the 18 but it should work off 12 just fine.
Hope this helps.

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Maybe I missed it someplace, bit I hear you talk about ‘these guys’ but I don’t see a link or you don’t say who they are. Did I miss it?

I ran mine on my cranking battery at first. Had to jump my cranking battery off my trolling batteries twice. After that I put my 8610 and my live scope on a 30ah amped lithium battery. But I'm sometimes on the water for 8 hrs and ran my battery down until my unit cut off twice. So I added another 30ah amped lithium battery to it and couldn't be happier. I would have bought the 60ah battery to start with but they were out of stock. Lesson learned.

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Maybe I missed it someplace, bit I hear you talk about ‘these guys’ but I don’t see a link or you don’t say who they are. Did I miss it?

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I also wondered who they were?

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SeeFish 18v Milwaukee adapter – SeeLite

here’s a link to the adapter.

ran my 93 sv uhd and livescope yesterday off a 17 amp-hour Chinese battery that I bought on ebay for 70 bucks. Showed 13.23 volts on my harbor freight multimeter when I got home.Ran my 999off my amped 18ah and it showed 13.56. fished from 7 till 1

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ran my 93 sv uhd and livescope yesterday off a 17 amp-hour Chinese battery that I bought on ebay for 70 bucks. Showed 13.23 volts on my harbor freight multimeter when I got home.Ran my 999off my amped 18ah and it showed 13.56. fished from 7 till 1

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Figure most of the Lithium batteries reguardless of brand are Chinese made. I am still unsure of this type batteries . Sure saves weight but read warning about the Lithium Batteries . Great idea if it works like I hear unless it becomes a safety issue. I run a seperate 12 volt deep cycle battery just for live scope box and 1242 unit but weight is only issue .

I think the LiFePO4 batteries aren't having the problems the older lithium batteries were having. Thinking about going with some miller Tech's for the trolling motor. I just can't figure out how 2 80 amp lithium will outperform 2 115 amp wet cells.

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Maybe I missed it someplace, bit I hear you talk about ‘these guys’ but I don’t see a link or you don’t say who they are. Did I miss it?

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SeeFish 18v Milwaukee adapter – SeeLite

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SeeFish 18v Milwaukee adapter – SeeLite

I don't see the point in the Milwaukee adapter; the tool batteries are very low Ah. I'm just a fishing bum and old-school EE, can you explain why these are used? I surmise that getting 18V instead of 12V to a sonar has some beneficial effect, hard to believe because they all use switching regulators on the power input... maybe PT Barnum was right.

Have not used them myself. But have watched several videos on guys who have installed and are running them. They are saying the can run all day with black box on 18 and they are running the newest 9.0 amp. Say they are getting a little clearer picture. But main advantage is weight savings verses a normal extra battery. And for guys who are buying lithium batters it’s quite a money saver especially if you happen to have a tool or 2 and extra batteries to start with. Don’t shot the messenger I’m just passing on information.

How long would a 35ah battery run both - LS & 93sv units??

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How long would a 35ah battery run both - LS & 93sv units??

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"Supposedly" the LS runs at a "max" of 4.83ah (the 93sv runs at a "max of 1.67ah) so you could get 4-5hrs, maybe. :dono

Many discussions are saying the LS runs at a "normal" draw of ~2ah .... so again it's likely to last a full days fishing on a battery of that size/strength. I believe when they are saying "max" draw, they're referring to max brightness of the backlighting & other settings on "high".

The whole thing boils down to how long the battery can maintain the voltage needed to keep the LS operating. I've seen my buddy's voltage show in the 10's and still be working fine, but we're not sure it was reading correctly. I've only had my LS running for maybe 4-5hrs on two separate occasions, but I wasn't paying any attention to the voltage change because I had it & my 93sv running off its own 68ah battery.

Thanks, crappiepappy.

The question came up= can you leave 93sv on one battery and the black bow on another??

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The question came up= can you leave 93sv on one battery and the black bow on another??

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Yes

Currently running my system on different battery sources.

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I think the LiFePO4 batteries aren't having the problems the older lithium batteries were having. Thinking about going with some miller Tech's for the trolling motor. I just can't figure out how 2 80 amp lithium will outperform 2 115 amp wet cells.

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"I just can't figure out how 2 80 amp lithium will outperform 2 115 amp wet cells. "

So one should only draw down a wet cell to 50% of its charge for the health of the battery (slowly dropping voltage as it goes)... the lithium can be drawn down to say 15% before the instant voltage drop. The effective amp hours on the two 155 wet cells would be 115 at 50% and some lower than 12.* voltage. The Amp hours on the two lithiums would be (.85 x 160) 136 amp hours and the voltage would be higher until abruptly dropping, and you have the lighter weight...
That's my understanding of it....

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That's how I really understand it. But if a 115 ah battery can only deliver 57-58 ah why label it as a 115?