Darn Those Ticks

My son works for the gas company, as a regulator tech, so he works outside all the time. In the past, he has had ticks get on him, but has been lucky, that he has felt them, before they got attached to him. They are now buying clothes for their workers, to reduce the chance of them being bitten by ticks. My son said last night, that since wearing the pants, he hasn't had any ticks be on him. The pants can be washed 100 times, before the repellent quits working.

Why did I bring this up? Because it seems that every year, it seems that there are more ticks, than the year before. Permethrin Spray, is the repellent, that is being used in the pants he wears. Bank fishing people, and hunters, should think about using something to protect themselves.

insect shield is the name of the company. Tried to bring the link here, but it isn't cooperating. They sell the spray there, and also clothing from children thru adults, with the spray embedded, into the clothes. Linking what they say on site below.

Repel ticks and mosquitoes today with Insect Shield’s line of insect and bug repellent clothing. Insect Shield carries a diverse line of insect repellent clothing for men, women and children. From shirts and pants, hats socks and accessories to maternity and kid’s clothes, Insect Shield has you protected. Insect Shield technology is EPA-Registered to repel insects such as mosquitoes, ticks, ants, flies, chiggers and midges (no-see-ums), including those that can carry Lyme disease, Zika virus, malaria, West Nile virus and other dangerous insect-borne illnesses. The repellency is so tightly bound to the fabric that it lasts through 70 washes (for apparel items). The permethrin-treated clothing and gear is appropriate for use by the entire family with no restrictions for use. Browse our variety of bug repellent work wear and casual lifestyle clothing and gear and help protect yourself, your family and employees from insects that can carry dangerous illnesses.

REI has been selling this type clothing for outdoorsman for years....but it's not cheap. I've used some of their bandanas to wear around my my neck to keep mosquitoes away.....works pretty good.



Regards

I went fishing one afternoon in the 60's, got bit by four ticks. I found them when I took a shower at 9 pm. At 1 am I was in the ER where a young doctor told me I had been bitten by a black widow spider. Treated, I went home. At 7:30 am I was taken to the ER again, this time paralyzed from the neck down; I almost died and would have except for a neurosurgeon who listened to what I was able to say....four ticks bit me!!! I was in ICU for three days and the paralysis gradually subsided. Three people in Memphis that year got tick paralysis, and one of them died. Ticks are bad news.

Used Permethrin for years bow hunting in northern Wisconsin. Season started mid September and the bear ticks were terrible. Do not put on skin only on clothes and let it dry.

Stuff soundS very powerful. I guess the word is be very careful using it. I’ll also say something about it at my RC Flying club. From time to time we have to hit the woods/fields and climb trees to get back errant planes! LOL. Thanks for the tip.
Bob

I've got a SIL that has Lime Disease and he can't stay awake for more than 2 or 3 hours at a time. Caused by a tick bite

Another disease ticks cause is called "Alpha Gal" this disease causes you to have an allergic reaction to mammal meat. Not noticed immediately but several hours after eating you become extremely sick. Ticks are not to be ignored. The dangers they present is quickly evolving, there are numerous studies being done. Check your local health departments to see if any studies in your area. They are always looking for samples to test.

For several years now I've treated my upland hunting clothes with diluted permetherin. I live in Michigan, spend all spring (worst tick season) in the woods with my dogs banding woodcock and all fall hunting grouse & woodcock. I've seen ticks so thick you can watch them crawling up a guys pants as he's walking.

I buy the 8 or 10oz Gordon's Permetherin from TSC. Put 1.5 gallons of water & the entire bottle of permetherin in a bucket, add clothes that you want treated. I do all 9f my outer garments. Wring them out while wearing rubber gloves. Air dry. One treatment lasts the entire spring. I retreat them before fall season as well.

I haven't had a tick on me since starting this. Every hunting companion that hasn't taken my advice has had multiple ticks on them each time we hunt.

Wonder if that stuff works on chiggers, they tore my legs up last week!

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Wonder if that stuff works on chiggers, they tore my legs up last week!

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I don’t know but if you find something that does let me know. I was in misery the last time I had to deal with them about 12 years back. So much so it has kept me out of a lot places I would have normally gone to. I have access to a private 30 acre lake full of 12 inch shell cracker. They quit mowing around the lake and grass and weeds are about thigh high. I won’t even think about going in that because of the chiggers. I hate em.

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According to the CDC, permethrin does kill chiggers.

How does the clothing do on repel mosquitoes?

no doubt on the mosquitoes question , we are in a bad situation here in dfw with the west nile virus
along with the corona virus and the list keeps on keeping on ....:banghead

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no doubt on the mosquitoes question , we are in a bad situation here in dfw with the west nile virus
along with the corona virus and the list keeps on keeping on ....:banghead

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Have you planted the seeds you got from China?

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no doubt on the mosquitoes question , we are in a bad situation here in dfw with the west nile virus
along with the corona virus and the list keeps on keeping on ....:banghead

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Wow, what a pleasant number of options you have right now. Tough to fish in a bio-hazard suit! :yikes

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Wonder if that stuff works on chiggers, they tore my legs up last week!

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Yes, it does for me, but be sure to treat your socks as well as your pants and shirt. I've been using permetherin since the early 90's and it works. I've watched a tick walk hot footed style on my pants when out turkey hunting. After a short while the tick fell off and stopped moving. My deer lease has chiggers bad, but the permetherin stops them.

If I’m in serious “tick/chigger country”, I wear light colored pants and tuck them into my socks. It looks goofy, but it makes a world of difference.

Spraying clothes with Permethrin adds another layer of defense.

They keep saying that apposum eat a lot of ticks, but around here they are not keeping up, hope they start earning their keep.

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Another disease ticks cause is called "Alpha Gal" this disease causes you to have an allergic reaction to mammal meat. Not noticed immediately but several hours after eating you become extremely sick. Ticks are not to be ignored. The dangers they present is quickly evolving, there are numerous studies being done. Check your local health departments to see if any studies in your area. They are always looking for samples to test.

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Sorry, I think I've double posted this reply.

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Another disease ticks cause is called "Alpha Gal" this disease causes you to have an allergic reaction to mammal meat. Not noticed immediately but several hours after eating you become extremely sick. Ticks are not to be ignored. The dangers they present is quickly evolving, there are numerous studies being done. Check your local health departments to see if any studies in your area. They are always looking for samples to test.

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Yup, I've got the Alpha Gal Allergy (Red Meat Allergy) allegedly from a Lone Star Tick bite. Didn't know I'd been bitten, but a couple hours after eating BBQ beef one day I had a bad reaction. Blood test revealed the allergy. After one year I was able to eat pork again (yes, pork is a red meat = four legged hooved animal). I'm still not able to eat beef or lamb, but my numbers have improved. Ticks are nasty!

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I don’t know but if you find something that does let me know. I was in misery the last time I had to deal with them about 12 years back. So much so it has kept me out of a lot places I would have normally gone to. I have access to a private 30 acre lake full of 12 inch shell cracker. They quit mowing around the lake and grass and weeds are about thigh high. I won’t even think about going in that because of the chiggers. I hate em.

Regards


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Certainly can't say I blame you for that. I'm originally from New England and practically lived in the woods growing up, and never herd of them until I relocated to VA. If they were there, I never heard anyone talk about them. But, boy oh boy, they sure know how to find this transplanted Yankee in a hurry down here.:welcome to the South:bash

Didn't know about it repelling chiggers. Yes permethrin, is supposed to repel mosquitoes too. That company also has socks, that are treated also.

About 30 years ago, a guy from work went deer hunting, and then cleaned it and several other's deer also. Apparently he didn't check himself for ticks after. He got lime disease, and just couldn't handle that it happened. So he got in his car, left home with a shot gun, drove to a secluded spot, and committed suicide. Everyone at work was shocked, and couldn't believe it, at first, because no one knew he had gotten lime disease. Once everyone knew, then they better understood why he did it.

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Stuff soundS very powerful. I guess the word is be very careful using it. I’ll also say something about it at my RC Flying club. From time to time we have to hit the woods/fields and climb trees to get back errant planes! LOL. Thanks for the tip.
Bob

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yep; can be dangerous

it's recommended to take clothes off outside (generally)


if you have a parrot, small animals, etc, can be a real prob

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I don’t know but if you find something that does let me know. I was in misery the last time I had to deal with them about 12 years back. So much so it has kept me out of a lot places I would have normally gone to. I have access to a private 30 acre lake full of 12 inch shell cracker. They quit mowing around the lake and grass and weeds are about thigh high. I won’t even think about going in that because of the chiggers. I hate em.

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I’m learning more about repelling critters from this thread than I ever have, and I’ve been in the woods my entire life. I can offer a treatment for chiggers that works for me. First understand that chiggers live off the ground which is why we pick them up walking through weeds. Next is to roll up pants legs and sleeves and spray with high deet content spray along with around your collar. That takes care of the vast majority for me. Should you get into them, and I’ve had over 200 bites on two occasions, understand that they have planted a young one in you that must be killed. The first time had me in the yard at 2 am buck naked rubbing myself down with a gasoline rag, because the recommended kerosene wasn’t available. It worked but still itched til the bites themselves healed. Untreated they go on for close to a week and make a person miserable. I recently also tried a treatment from years back,Absorbine linament. An older family friend got into no see ums and used this for arthritis pain and such. The area he treated subsided by the next day and the others went for much longer before they left him alone. I used this on some no see ums a while back and the burning itch was gone in about 36 hours and the few chiggers I get give me almost no discomfort after treating. The smell is tough but the results are good for me and worth a try for you. About $8 for the stuff, worth every cent.

Never tried it myself but an old boss of mine, raised near Astor, grew up with a cotton string around wrists, ankles and waist that had been soaked in kerosene. His mom always insisted on this when he was young. He got older and said”I don’t need that!” Got chewed up hunting once and never doubted mom again. Hope some of this helps someone.

Got RMSF several years ago, never got my energy level back up to the point it was. I quit any activity while they are out thick or I am real careful of where I walk and use plenty of bug spray. No more turkey hunting or spring squirrel , also no more bow hunting, I wear them out during muzzle loader season though

Permethrin also works on garden pests too.
When I was a kid, there was a product called Chigger Chaser. It worked, found out it is mostly sulfur powder. Sulfur powder still works on chiggers.

I must be lucky. I've spent the majority of my lifetime outside, all over the world. Been bitten by most things and have yet make a trip to the ER for it. Also seen those who are highly allergic go into shock and we had to get them medical treatment immediately, chopper life flight. Thanks for the info. I doubt I'll use it, however I will stash the info in the back of my mind in case someone I know does need it.

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Before you get too self confident study up on the body's response you continued allergens being introduced, and hope that someone around you can help in the event you have a sudden reaction.

Got a nephew that eats no red meat . Pretty much limited to chicken , fish, turkey , and sea food as far as meat is concerned .He can not go to any restaurant or fast food place that fries even french fries in the same grease as red meat . Has had this for two years now .

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Got a nephew that eats no red meat . Pretty much limited to chicken , fish, turkey , and sea food as far as meat is concerned .He can not go to any restaurant or fast food place that fries even french fries in the same grease as red meat . Has had this for two years now .

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In dealing with my red meat allergy, I have also found that gelatin which is in many foods as a thickening agent is a product of red meat and has to be avoided as well. Reading every label is a pain in the butt, but it is better than having a bad reaction. I went the first year only eating seafood and poultry (some can't eat dairy, but I was able to.) This allergy seems to go away for some people over time, as it did for me with pork. Unfortunately I'm still not able to eat beef or lamb, but my blood test numbers are getting better. Can't wait for my next big juicy burger! Stay well and tight lines to all.

Back years ago around 1999 or 2000 I was working on an assembly line with a guy and noticed he hadn't been to work in days. I asked where Lynn was and they told me he got bit by a
tick and caught Lyme's and was struggling to get back healthy. Next thing I knew he was on short term disability....then he was on long term disability. He never came back. Lyme's caused him to develop rhemotoid athritis. He was not an outdoorsman at all. He caught it mowing his yard.

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From my experience in SEMO and S IL....permethrin does great on ticks...less so for chiggers and zero for skeeters. 100% Deet for the last two . Pro tip....Deet will eat the finish completely off your favorite squirrel rifle !!

I feel very fortunate that I've never contracted Lyme's as I've pulled a bunch of Ticks off me over the years. I've always processed my own deer, and we had a Walk-in cooler (converted reefer truck) at deer camp, and would hang/aged them with the hide on for several days until I left camp. When I would take them out of the cooler to the skinning shed to process, the ticks would come to life and be crawling all over them, and me.

Sadly, we never took Lyme's very serious back in the day, but have become much more cautious of ticks the last ten years or so.

I've processed somewhere between 75-100 deer during that time so I'm extremely greatful that I've never gotten sick.