Makes one wonder how long this guy has been at this. Pretty impressive.
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Makes one wonder how long this guy has been at this. Pretty impressive.
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Get behind me, Satan! Dont tempt me with more rods and reels! :biggrin
Is that a fiberglass rod? Looks very flexible.
Very impressive casting.
I don't want to downplay his talents, but he is using a baitcaster so he can stop the spool if you overshoots his target.
Disco from my understanding those BFS rods have glass in them. Techno....I don't know if you are familiar with BFS reels....they were created and perfected in Japan. That is no ordinary bait casting reel. The spool....and bearings in there cost a lot of money. They are designed for casting much lighter lures than regular bait casting reels. You can't do what he does with with an ordinary baitcaster. BFS is becoming more common in the states but this guy is at the top of this game.
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I hear you. Maybe 13 years back I would have tried this. But now I have so many JDM spinning rods and reels just not enough money for me to go down this road. I used BC reels for years but when I was using them BFS had not even been heard of. I watch a lot of these guys videos even though I don't intend to do it.....a real joy to watch.Quote:
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That rod looks like a noodle and I can see where that's a benefit in the areas he was fishing..... That thing was bending to the rod seat.....LOL
I believe I have the bait casting reel he is using. It was my first bait casting reel back in the 1950's. It is a Abu Garica Ambassador 3000. All red body and small pearl handle grips. I paused the video and looked closely at it. I still have mine.
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Very pretty casting, but where's the fish? Did he even catch one on that video? Just kidding. I couldn't watch it with the sound on, I confess.
I'd like to take that guy dock-shooting.
I had several also....but back then they did not have the spools and bearings he is using. High end BFS reels cost a lot of money. Many get into it with the cheaper reels out of China.Quote:
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That's pretty amazing, thanks for posting that link.
You do what we call tricking out the reels. You replace the factory bearings with ceramic bearings about $40 a set and lubricate with a very low viscosity lubricant. I use one called yellow rocket fuel from Britain. The english are experts on distance casting. You also take jeweler's polishing compounds and then polish spool rods to remove all rough friction causing imperfections. Same for all other internal metal parts that move during the casting action. I am curious why this guy is not using a Japanese manufactured reel. The subtitle actually referred to it as such.
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To me that also looks like some kind of a Abu Garica baitcaster, tricked out or not. But I know absolutely zilch about Japanese fishing techniques or JDM reels. What l do know however, is that I couldn't cast near that accurate even if I were using a rifle to do so. That guys skills are off the charts. But some of those pockets he was casting into were so small and the water so skinny, I don't know if they were even capable of holding catchable size fish.
Here is my Ambassador 5000 from 70 years ago. I called it a 3000 earlier but just got it out and took a pic. Made in Sweden. Attachment 381412Attachment 381413
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Here is a blow up of the pic of the reel in the video. ABU made in Sweden. Attachment 381414
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Pretty sure he is using reels that are only made for...and sold in Japan. They look like the reels we used to use but that is where it ends. They are very high end reproduction versions. We can get them...just have to get them out of Japan. He also uses some Calcuttas and I have read the rods he uses are 700 bucks and up. From what I gather he is partial to those high end reproduction Ambassadeur reels.Quote:
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I suspect it's a fly rod blank shortened somewhat and built with a casting rod handle and guides. It has that fly rod parabolic action. Built one myself one time.
The guy is a amazingly accurate caster. He and that rod/reel combo have spent many hours together!
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Some fancy work there!
He's using ab Abu 2500. It's quite a bit smaller than the 5000. Those go for big bucks in Japan.
Johnny Diekman and others were doing this kind of trick casting in the 50s.
ABU Ambassadeur 5000 Bait Casting Reel Demo in 1956 - YouTube
Mitchell 300 Reel Casting Demo by Johnny Dieckman 1956 - YouTube
The rod is made by Anglo & Company. Probably fiberglass.
http://www.anglo.jp
Thats not a shortened fly rod blank. Those are purpose built BFS rods built on blanks for that very purpose.Quote:
Originally Posted by z520tom
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He sure knows how to use his equipment!
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Just googled the Ambassadour 5000 that I have and found this one on ebay. What do you think. Attachment 381436Attachment 381438
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:yikes
That's a good deal! Get it. /s
How in the world would you know that its not the same a a fly rod blank. By the way you modify blanks to meet certain casting and power values by removing from one or both ends to get the action you want. By the way I own probably 50 plus Japanese bait casting and spinning reels. Several Calcutta's which are the same type of design as the reel he is using in the video. They Japanese make a lot of quality products but so do some American c ompanies like St Croix. Some of the best quality rods I have we're bought from G. Loomis in Washington state 30 years ago. They sold high end rods and rod blanks to custom builders. The Japanese (Shimano) bought them out and wouldn't sell the blanks any more. A $700 fishing rod is ridiculous. A good rod is defined by the components used and the craftmanship of the person who builds it. Every rod blank has individual properties and commercial companies will not address these. If they buy their high end reels from Sweden might not their high end rods come from somewhere else. Of course they might. Sorry for long response.
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What Im saying is there is a big market for high end BFS rods in Japan.....and sold to the rest of the world too. The Japanese do have rods produced in other countries.....some of them quite expensive and very good. But the really good ones are produced in Japan by master rod builders. It is not some afterthought that that they just said Lets just take some fly rod blanks laying around make a bait casting rod. You may not want to pay 700 bucks for a rod and that is your prerogative....but others do. Do you own any high end Made in Japan UL rods. Have you ever had one in your hands. They will blow all other UL rods out of the water....period. You may not want to pay....you may think they cost too much....but the fact is they are the finest UL made rods in the world. ST Croix has an UL rod that is pretty darn good...at a cost of $380 or there about. For the same amount of money...or less....and I can get a rod made in Japan that is better. Rod blank technology has come a very long way in the past 30 years. Loomis has no UL rod on the market that can compete with high end JDM rods. But this is a mute conversation....you think a 700 dollar rod is ridiculous.....how about 1000 bucks for a spinning rod? You spend your money the way you want to and Ill spend mine how I choose also.Quote:
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Looks like one of these rods or similar.
Paragon G500 Bait Finesse A
bait finesse rod has joined the popular UD glasses, the Paragon G series.
The supple tip section is connected to the torqueful butt section for a faster taper flavor.
Even though it is a full glass, the butt part does not shake, so it fits perfectly in fishing when you shoot a pin spot with a short stroke cast.
Regarding hooking, Mizude says, "It's fun to be able to fight by entwining it", and the suppleness unique to the sensual UD glass is a habit.
The Mizuide Edition, which is limited to 20 pieces, uses a spiral guide setting to reduce the weight of the tip section guide and reduce thread entanglement in the tip section.
bait finesse rod has joined the popular UD glasses, the Paragon G series.
The supple tip section is connected to the torqueful butt section for a faster taper flavor.
Even though it is a full glass, the butt part does not shake, so it fits perfectly in fishing when you shoot a pin spot with a short stroke cast.
Regarding hooking, Mizude says, "It's fun to be able to fight by entwining it", and the suppleness unique to the sensual UD glass is a habit.
The Mizuide Edition, which is limited to 20 pieces, uses a spiral guide setting to reduce the weight of the tip section guide and reduce thread entanglement in the tip section.
If they buy their products from another company in another country like they did that Swedish made reel then they are basically middle men. I've caught 1000's of crappie, bluegill and shellcrackers and could feel their bites (sensitivity) on rods so light it was hard to believe. There is no way a commercial rod would have increased my enjoyment or success. I can cast your beloved trout magnet close to 50' and feel 3" gills hitting it. I don't do it very often because 2# line on a whippy rod wouldn't get the shellcrackers and good size gills out of their liars. Here is a pic of a 13" shellcracker I caught out of a shallow crappie stakebed this past spring. 8# fireline with a 8# fluoro leader on a jig fly of my own making. He would still be there on your whippy rod with 2# line. If I thought for a minute that these high dollar Japanese rods were better performers than the rods I use I would own a dozen of them. I could buy any rod or lures. I get a great satisfaction out of catching my fish on equipment and lures that I build. Much more rewarding than getting the Visa card out buying it. Enough for tonight.
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C'mon, man. :rolleyes: I've landed 7# bass on 2# line and the whippiest UL rod I own. The record tarpon on 2# line is about a 50-pounder.Quote:
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We get it. You like to tie your own flies and build your own rods. Not everybody has the time or the inclination for that. I have neither, so I happily whip out the VISA.Quote:
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A wise man once said "You don't know what you don't know".
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interesting ,but i think its all show and no go
bait is really large for such a tiny creek
and its way to heavy for such shallow water
coupled with a few other things that cross my mind in this video and it equals
he is playin and not ketchn :Rofl
The guy catches plenty of fish....trout. This was just a video I thought people might enjoy seeing of someone with some amazing casting ability.Quote:
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WOW !:yikes
I’m always amazed at the thumb control and ability that many of these fishermen have. Thanks for the video.
Anybody ever see Stan Fagerstrom casting? Awesome demonstration.
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Lot of years ago on TV. Unfortunately the videos of him casting on YouTube are such low resolution you cant make out much.Quote:
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Yes he does!
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Anyone know why he wears the bells?
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Common man: like to have you bring your whippy rod and 2# line here to Kentucky/Barkley Lakes and show me how it handles are bass. Probably spend your time practicing knot tying. Guessing you fish deep clear lakes with little cover. Do you think that the FLW and BASS pros will be into these rods? I suspect that your tarpon was from cover free water.
As far as " We get it" comment I don't believe you do. What I disagree with the statements made that these high end Japanese rods ARE SUPERIOR to the rods I and others use. Yes I like building rods. Are Japanese rod builders superior those of here in the USA. I think not.
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A lot of points made here have merit. Where I live and fish, 1-2 lbs lines are synonymous with trout fishing. I am mostly referring to stocker trout in local lakes. I see a number of fisherman with high end spinning and bait-casting gear (yes, BFS is a common occurrence on our trout lakes) that use extremely light lines to hunt for 5-8 lbs trophies. 2 lbs lines are particularly popular among those anglers. I have witnessed a couple of epic fights with lightning trout in the 7-8 lbs range. Those trout get their name for a very good reason. Whippy rods and flawless drag assemblies protect the light lines very well. Why do those guys use such light lines? Because they regularly outfish everyone else on the lake and pull in the biggest catch. For them and myself, it is worth it.
Good video! Why is he wearing bells around his waist? I assume maybe he is fishing in bear country(?)Quote:
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Nope. I've fished pretty similar waters all my life.Quote:
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As a general rule, I could not care less what the bass pros do. The bass pros are into whatever their sponsors tell them to be into.Quote:
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Maybe, but it was a 50# tarpon. LOLQuote:
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I've said it at least a dozen times on this site: tackle is 99.9999% personal preference. Use whatever you like. I don't care. Personally, I'm selling off all my St. Croix and Loomis rods so I can buy more JDM equipment.Quote:
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