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Has anyone on hear heard word if and when Hummingbird is going to come out with an answer to live scope. I want to get in the game but would prefer not selling my Hummingbird's to buy Garmin. Laurence has come out with their version so I'm hoping Hummingbird isn't far behind.
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Ray
Ray, I'm curious as to why you think you'd have to get rid of your Birds to put LS on your boat ??
I have a Hook 7 at the bow right now & if I added LS I would keep it where it is and use it for chart maps/waypoints (tdx is on the TM). The LS tdx would be on the TM shaft ... black box would be on the deck ... Garmin unit would be mounted on a Cumberland Crappie adjustable mount. At least that's the plan I have in my head. My buddy has LS and has a similar setup ... and his "other" unit is not a Garmin. He has his other unit set on split screen ... 2d sonar / map with tracks and waypoints showing.
Maybe I'm interpreting what you're saying wrong, but it sounds like you're thinking you'd have to have all Garmin units :dono
I could do that but one, if I sell my front Helix it will help fund the Garmin screen and live scope upgrade and two I don't have a ton of room up front to fill it up with screens. I was hoping HB would be coming out with something that I could plug into my Helix 9 Mega, just wanted to see if anyone has heard anything coming in the near future. Thanks for the reply!
Ray
I would guess with them just coming out with Mega 360 that will be their focus for a couple of years. I haven't heard any rumors.
I would think that just like the 360 units it wont be backwards compatible. So if they did come out with it anytime soon you would need a new control head anyways. I'll just stick with the Helix's I have for a while.
I think this Mega 360 is their answer to LiveScope.
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See if they announce anything new at Icast. The Helix series is normally updated every 2 years and that 2 years will be up this fall. New units usually includes support for new accessories.
Helix 11 gen2 at helm
Livescope +106sv up front
DONE!
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HB will not have "Live" anything do to patents, their Mega 360 is as close as they can get which is only a sweep of the screen about one or two seconds away from being live. No you can't watch the fish suck your jig in but you can know that they are there; Lowrance was able to work a deal with Garmin which let them in the play pool but locked out HB.Quote:
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Ya don’t need Live View if you know how to use Mega 360. :cheers2 :Rofl
When you use Mega 360 are you slow trolling? Wife and I do a lot of slow trolling and some brush pile fishing, I can see it would be great for fishing brush piles but when we are slow trolling we run about .6 to 1 mph, I heard its not very clear when the boat is moving. Also does the 360 transducer replace the transducer that came with my Helix 9 mega DI SI?
Thanks,
You need a y cable to use your transducer with,the Mega 360 in combination. For Helix models, 9 M360 2DDI Y is the cable. Because the Mega 360 is not plugged into the network and in the back of your helix or Solix, the Helix unit’s must be a g3n Plus unit starting with the size of helix 8 SI+ G3N as it plugs into where the transducer port is or a Y cable. If using the Y cable with a Helix 9 SI G3N, no y cable offered by Humminbird is wired to show SI. It will only show 2d and DI because you will get your SI by using the Mega 360 and it’s a good as your transducer pic when using the Mega 360 in SI setting. I use the Mega 360 when trolling crankbaits at a speed of 1.4 to 2.2 mph with no issues set at a sweep speed of 3 and even sometimes 4. Give me a really good pic of fish, structure, baitballs, you name it. I have no issues but slower speeds will be more clear than fast. The Mega 360 can only be plugged into a G3N Plus unit, but once plugged into the Plus unit,,can be networked to other Helix units that have the software version 2.18 to run the mega 360. Solix units require a different software other than what Helix is offered also.Quote:
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Lowrance live is so bad its not even considered in the same category. They were trying so hard to compete i think they had some kind of 6month return if not happy policy.
I was a Lowrance guy for the last 15 years.
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Use both. Great combo.
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Can you see your jig with 360 the way you can with livescope?
I have 'bird Mega SI+ Helix at the console for cruising around looking... Garmin up front with PLS for fishing when I find 'em. The best of both worlds. You need to keep at least ONE 'bird.
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I love my Birds at the console for finding structure and fish. Livescope at the bow to fish for them. Like said above "best of both". HB mega 360 looks nice and I could see how it would be useful but if I could only have 1 unit on my boat it would be Livescope by a wide margin.
Really would LOVE to see HB come out with something even close to Livescope!
I would think they would before long. I just don't see how you could patent "live". I would be very interested in seeing a HB offering as well. Wouldn't 360 live be amazing!!!
Where did your screen stack mounts come from?
Those look like they’re from Cornfield Crappie. Mark makes some great mounts.Quote:
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talked to someone in the industry today that had a seminar with humminbird reps and they mentioned that they are coming out with something "big" that will compete with PLS. He thinks it will be mega 360 that is live. No timeline or anything. Take it for what it's worth.Quote:
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I got the same story line back in February from a Humminbird employee... something coming, but not timeline
If they get the mega 360+ with realtime live imagery, well, game over... I'm sure it will be a large penny though
Live 360, still not for me. I still couldn't see the depth of the fish or my bait and how the fish reacts to it like I can with Livescope. I really don't care for the Livescope Perspective View as well.
My hope is HB will come out with LS tech but with the mega screen look and resolution. That would be awesome. In the meantime I will keep my mega DI up front for the Di, 2d and map. I prefer this when fishing vertical over structure.
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I am limited on space on the front of my boat too so I made a bracket to stack one unit on top of the other.
Not constricted but like the stack.Quote:
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Hummingbird outlet now has the mega live transducer for preorder with expected April, 2021 ship date.Quote:
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Any video out there of it in use?Quote:
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None of their biggest name bass guys even have prototypes on their boats yet, probably not going to be available for retail any time soon.Quote:
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What he said!
Maybe, but I don’t think they would be taking preorders if they didn’t have a firm idea. To my knowledge they have not done anything like that before. Anyone know different?
They may even skip the trial by fire with the bass and tournament guys.
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Don’t believe the Outlet you are referring to is even associated with Johnson Outdoors and has been known to be problematic for a lot customers who have used that site. As far as I have read, and I read all over the internet about fishing, Mega Live still doesn’t even officially exist yet according to Johnson Outdoors. Also believe Johnson Outdoors has nothing to do with preorders, any retailer can just take them. Ask the Lowrance guys how preorders have worked out for them with Active Target. Nobody wants it to be real and rolled out more than Roy and I, a lot of us are frustrated with Garmin. But everything I am seeing is June or July at the best case and more likely 2022 before it comes to retail.
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ICAST is July 22 in Orlando. I think it will definitely be out and guys using it before then. Chip shortage has HB right now concentrating on filling the G4N and Solix orders as HB is behind on them. That is what I am hearing. However,,it’s all a crapshoot. :twocents
I don’t know about that. As for the site, I bought my helix from the site a couple years ago with no problems. I know several others who have used it also.Quote:
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It’s your money, the reviews are out there for anyone to see. But the Hummingbird Factory Outlet is a completely separate company, not associated in anyway with Hummingbird the manufacturer units/sonar which is owned by Johnson Outdoors. Just a retailer that grabbed up that name.Quote:
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Yeah ... they also did that for about 100 other manufacturers including Garmin and Lowrance. When I was looking to buy a few years ago I ran across them and did some reviews .... did not like what I saw. Too many complaints .... especially from people who used their extended warranty.Quote:
Originally Posted by pab1981
Went with BBG marine instead.