Livescope transducer angle?

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04-22-2020, 08:20 AM
Greenwing

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Livescope transducer angle?

I've noticed a lot of you have the Livescope transducer mounted on a mount separate from the trolling motor. My question is does the transducer angle make much difference in the quality of the image? My Livescope has the ghosting effects along with a dead zone, mine is mounted on an Ultrex on a Triton bass boat. What I've read and seen in videos is the Ultrex is 3.5 degrees off level and the Triton bow is 5 degrees downward. I'm thinking that I need to correct this first then if the problem continues contact Garmin. What's is y'all's thought on this? The picture is terrible, taking by phone and it had been raining but you can definitely see the dead zone.
04-23-2020, 02:50 PM
Herewego

Have you tried adjusting gain and changing TV settings to see if it helps?

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04-23-2020, 02:50 PM
Herewego

TVG settings?

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04-23-2020, 03:05 PM
Herewego

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This is with gain too high.
TVG setting on low.
Also set at 41 feet forward on this pic.
Make adjustments to get clearer results. Attachment 373175

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04-23-2020, 08:12 PM
Greenwing

I'm planning on going to the lake tomorrow to try some different settings, what was your noise rejection setting?
04-24-2020, 07:26 PM
thaDudeAbides

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Originally Posted by Herewego

This is with gain too high.
TVG setting on low.
Also set at 41 feet forward on this pic.
Make adjustments to get clearer results. Attachment 373175

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What model is that? Pic looks pretty good to me! Plenty enough to find the fish!
04-26-2020, 07:49 AM
Greenwing

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In the first picture the stake bed return is missing, in the second picture the front stake bed is return is missing. Any suggestions?
I'm using software version 2.10, dedicated 60AH lithium battery with 10ga wire ran to the GLS10 and 93SV Plus.
04-26-2020, 08:10 AM
Greenwing

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The second picture I adjusted several settings, turned the gain up still nothing I tried eliminated the dead zone.
04-26-2020, 08:14 AM
Greenwing

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04-27-2020, 06:36 AM
Rammer1961

Greenwing, I have Echomap 93svand Livescope now for almost a year. Had it mounted on the TM shaft, portside (left) for about a month. Got the "Poleducer" with 2.5" rammount and really like it. I had to use the Garmin mount so it had the 8* cantangle. I never noticed the "Ghost tree" as it is called. I havever.2.10 for LS, haven't updated to 2.33 yet because of issues some areexperiencing. Well I got the Summit mount for perspective view last Friday andit doesn't use the Garmin 8* cant shaft mount, so it will be 0* (no cant)in fwd./down view by default. Went to lake Saturday to test it. In forward view 0*no cant there it was… the “Ghost Tree”!!! First time I’ve seen it on my unit. I slid the pole up and adjusted thetransducer to be about 8* cant angle, slid it back down and the ghost tree wasgone!! I put it back to 0* (no cant angle) and the ghost tree came back so the8* cant design apparently is required regardless of where it is mounted.
In"down view" with transducer in perspective view angle (horizontal)using the 2.10 ver. software. Well it worked and the view was surprisinglygood. Fish and structure was good. Unfortunately I didn’t take any photos but Iwill next time out. Just wanted to share.
04-27-2020, 06:44 AM
brettw

I may have to put 8 degree offset back on my pole

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Originally Posted by Rammer1961

Greenwing, I have Echomap 93svand Livescope now for almost a year. Had it mounted on the TM shaft, portside (left) for about a month. Got the "Poleducer" with 2.5" rammount and really like it. I had to use the Garmin mount so it had the 8* cantangle. I never noticed the "Ghost tree" as it is called. I havever.2.10 for LS, haven't updated to 2.33 yet because of issues some areexperiencing. Well I got the Summit mount for perspective view last Friday andit doesn't use the Garmin 8* cant shaft mount, so it will be 0* (no cant)in fwd./down view by default. Went to lake Saturday to test it. In forward view 0*no cant there it was… the “Ghost Tree”!!! First time I’ve seen it on my unit. I slid the pole up and adjusted thetransducer to be about 8* cant angle, slid it back down and the ghost tree wasgone!! I put it back to 0* (no cant angle) and the ghost tree came back so the8* cant design apparently is required regardless of where it is mounted.
In"down view" with transducer in perspective view angle (horizontal)using the 2.10 ver. software. Well it worked and the view was surprisinglygood. Fish and structure was good. Unfortunately I didn’t take any photos but Iwill next time out. Just wanted to share.

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04-27-2020, 06:47 AM
Greenwing

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Originally Posted by Rammer1961

Greenwing, I have Echomap 93svand Livescope now for almost a year. Had it mounted on the TM shaft, portside (left) for about a month. Got the "Poleducer" with 2.5" rammount and really like it. I had to use the Garmin mount so it had the 8* cantangle. I never noticed the "Ghost tree" as it is called. I havever.2.10 for LS, haven't updated to 2.33 yet because of issues some areexperiencing. Well I got the Summit mount for perspective view last Friday andit doesn't use the Garmin 8* cant shaft mount, so it will be 0* (no cant)in fwd./down view by default. Went to lake Saturday to test it. In forward view 0*no cant there it was… the “Ghost Tree”!!! First time I’ve seen it on my unit. I slid the pole up and adjusted thetransducer to be about 8* cant angle, slid it back down and the ghost tree wasgone!! I put it back to 0* (no cant angle) and the ghost tree came back so the8* cant design apparently is required regardless of where it is mounted.
In"down view" with transducer in perspective view angle (horizontal)using the 2.10 ver. software. Well it worked and the view was surprisinglygood. Fish and structure was good. Unfortunately I didn’t take any photos but Iwill next time out. Just wanted to share.

Thanks, I don't know what's going on. I'm using the 8* cant mount, if I turn the noise rejection to low then instead of the dead zone I get the ghost tree. I tried readjusting the transducer before my last trip with no change.
04-27-2020, 07:07 AM
Rammer1961

I would sure try it. I would have to say it was conclusive since I did this twice and both times at 0* the tree was visible. It kind of resembled the angle of the transducer beam hardware design IMO.
04-27-2020, 07:07 AM
Snubby

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Originally Posted by Greenwing

Attachment 373392 Attachment 373393

In the first picture the stake bed return is missing, in the second picture the front stake bed is return is missing. Any suggestions?
I'm using software version 2.10, dedicated 60AH lithium battery with 10ga wire ran to the GLS10 and 93SV Plus.

Have you tried mounting the transducer on the TM shaft? I had mine mounted on the barrel (port side) at first, It did pretty good. I used the rubber pad they sent with it in between mount and barrel. I since have moved it up 12 inches and mounted port side on shaft and I'm getting better returns. Wouldn't hurt to try only takes a few minutes to move it, I would do that first before calling Garmin. :twocents

Also, do you have the prong grounded on the unit, and using the magnet clamps on the cables? I don't use either, but just throwing out all ideas.
04-27-2020, 07:54 AM
Greenwing

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Originally Posted by Snubby

Have you tried mounting the transducer on the TM shaft? I had mine mounted on the barrel (port side) at first, It did pretty good. I used the rubber pad they sent with it in between mount and barrel. I since have moved it up 12 inches and mounted port side on shaft and I'm getting better returns. Wouldn't hurt to try only takes a few minutes to move it, I would do that first before calling Garmin. :twocents

Also, do you have the prong grounded on the unit, and using the magnet clamps on the cables? I don't use either, but just throwing out all ideas.

I thought about trying that, but I'd have to move my 360 as well. Where's this prong you're talking about? On the unit or GLS10?
04-27-2020, 07:58 AM
Snubby

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Originally Posted by Greenwing

I thought about trying that, but I'd have to move my 360 as well. Where's this prong you're talking about? On the unit or GLS10?

Back of the unit, mine is the 122sv.Attachment 373532

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04-27-2020, 08:12 AM
Greenwing

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Originally Posted by Snubby

Back of the unit, mine is the 122sv.Attachment 373532

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Thanks, I've got a 93SV plus I'll look this afternoon.
04-28-2020, 08:33 AM
Greenwing

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Originally Posted by Snubby

Have you tried mounting the transducer on the TM shaft? I had mine mounted on the barrel (port side) at first, It did pretty good. I used the rubber pad they sent with it in between mount and barrel. I since have moved it up 12 inches and mounted port side on shaft and I'm getting better returns. Wouldn't hurt to try only takes a few minutes to move it, I would do that first before calling Garmin. :twocents

Also, do you have the prong grounded on the unit, and using the magnet clamps on the cables? I don't use either, but just throwing out all ideas.

Called tech support they recommend moving the transducer to the shaft. Going to do that tonight or tomorrow and hopefully try it before the weekend. Hopefully this fixes it.