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I have made a lot of clousers with barbell eyes and I know they catch fish fish but I want to try and replicate something close on a jig. Is tough to tie really small ones with the barbell so I was hoping to get a similar look and make it easier to tie by using a jig.
Any thoughts or should I just stick with the barbells?
Nice tie thanks fo4 sharing. Neve thought or Turning the first bunch under. Great idea.
Enjoyed the video, butI have a question for you. I believe he said that he is using size A thread and I don't remember anyone using that for a size of thread so can you tell me how that fits in denier or Aught system?Quote:
Originally Posted by deathb4disco
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I had never heard of that, either. He must have learned from some "old salt" tyer.Quote:
Originally Posted by skiptomylu
It's a heavy thread used for saltwater flies and jigs. Denier would be around 210 or 280.
I guess so, thank you!Quote:
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This should work to keep a vertical presentation .
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I bought some size A Danville rod wrapping thread and it is a very strandy nylon. Too slick for my bucktails. I use size D rod tying thread, I think it's a 3 strand braid. It's about like upholstery thread. It's not as slick and hold big clumps of bucktail better than the slick stuff. Breakable but hard by hand. This is for bucktails 1/8th oz - 4 oz. Some guys use 210 denier flat waxed nylon but it would break before I put half the tension on it that I tie my bucktails with.Quote:
Originally Posted by skiptomylu
Okay thanks Smooth! I have never tried any of that really heavy thread, well over 210. Have you tried any of the GSP for your Bucktails? Do you really think that much tension is needed for the Bucktails? I ask because am sure you have tied more bucktails than I have as my experience is limited. Have tied some 1/32 Oz Bucktails for crappie fishing, but don't remember a lot of others I have tied.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothlures
So when saying you use size D, what does that mean and how is it compared to size A?
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Hey folks, I tie 75% buck tail here in walleye country. Don't really use it for crappie or pan fish. I will say it takes a fair amount of tension to hold walleye jigs together. All I use is kevlar thread for my walleye jigs. You can actually pull it so tight the he hair stands out side ways. Way to tight. LOL
I don't really think you need to use it until you start tying 1/2 or 3/4 oz bucktails. I've never tried GSP. I tried Kevlar thread and it's fine but the color bleeds and is expensive. I use thin superglue that essentially coats all of my thread in hard plastic to stop from getting cut by saltwater fish. It only takes one knick in the wrap. Epoxy works too but doesn't penetrate as well and yellows over time. UV cure is probably a good option.Quote:
Originally Posted by skiptomylu
As for tension, when you start tying big jigs the way I do - absolutely. The first 3-4 wraps really hold it in. They must be very tight. If you tie by adding small bundles over one after another you could probably get away with less tension, but I do two clumps, one on top and one on bottom. Mainly for speed and efficiency. If a few hairs start to come out then that leaves a gap for all of it to come out.
Size A Danville is a little thicker than 210 flat waxed nylon. They both look the same - flossy and strandy. Size D is still nylon (they probably make other kinds) and is a strand 3 braid which makes it rougher and grabs the slick hair better.
Here's what I tie. 1 oz with size D thread. A little beat up from a few trips in the ocean.
https://i.imgur.com/JEEzOac.jpg
Here's flat waxed nylon left on the Rite bobbin and the size A thread. It looks very similar.
https://i.imgur.com/6uE2dKk.jpg
And here are a couple of size D threads. You can see that they're braided.
https://i.imgur.com/zd6dWnq.jpg
Hope that helps. Sorry for the hijack!