A few new screenshots

Here are a few new screenshots that I took yesterday. The pollen and/or algae bloom is really clouding up the water so I had to move my frequencies down from mega to 455 to get some decent images. It does this every year at this time for a few weeks. Good news the crappie are starting to relate to brush. Bad news is last 2 Garmin updates has messed up mine and others Livescope with excess clutter and deadAttachment 370702Attachment 370703Attachment 370704Attachment 370705Attachment 370706 zones. I'm just thankful to get out!

Pollen really affects the Livescope as well, I have noticed. It operates in the MHz range of frequencies. I haven't had any issues with the update, I have tested 2.30, 2.33, and 2.20, the only difference is 2.30 requires higher gain to get the same picture.

As you can see my gains on the Livescope images are now in the 40's. Previous to the updates I typically Dan closer to 60. Last year the time I did not have the issue with pollen and excess clutter like I do now. Now I'm getting dead zones that wipe out everything in that part of the beam. My bait, fish, and even parts of the brushpile. Not good, not acceptable!

I don't see that in mine. Just sayin'. Hope you get it sorted out.

Thanks, I appreciate it. That's what's really strange, the update from Garmin is doing different stuff to different people. Some are not having any issues. I'm sure Garmin will get it figured out but it sure makes fishing harder right now. Livescope done spoiled me!!!!

Roy ... I don't have LS or SI, but do have 2d/DI capabilities (Hook 7) ... and as I look at your split screen images of 2d & DI I am all the more convinced that me not using 2d (and sometimes railing against it) has great merit. As I look at those images, it becomes clear to me that the 2d side of the screen is lacking in its accurate coverage, which is made very clear by the DI images that are showing stuff the 2d images are not ... especially in the second split screen image, where the tree on the left is covered pretty well by the 2d image, but the tree on the right looks to be missing ~50% in the 2d image.

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As you can see my gains on the Livescope images are now in the 40's. Previous to the updates I typically Dan closer to 60. Last year the time I did not have the issue with pollen and excess clutter like I do now. Now I'm getting dead zones that wipe out everything in that part of the beam. My bait, fish, and even parts of the brushpile. Not good, not acceptable!

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Have you tried resetting it to factory settings after the update? Just a thought.

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Have you tried resetting it to factory settings after the update? Just a thought.

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Yes I haave, it didn't help. Heard back from Garmin last night, they said my images look normal. Didn't even mention the dead, blank zone right through the middle of the brushpile. Unbelievable!!!

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Roy ... I don't have LS or SI, but do have 2d/DI capabilities (Hook 7) ... and as I look at your split screen images of 2d & DI I am all the more convinced that me not using 2d (and sometimes railing against it) has great merit. As I look at those images, it becomes clear to me that the 2d side of the screen is lacking in its accurate coverage, which is made very clear by the DI images that are showing stuff the 2d images are not ... especially in the second split screen image, where the tree on the left is covered pretty well by the 2d image, but the tree on the right looks to be missing ~50% in the 2d image.

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Happy you are correct on those images. I'll have to admit that I didn't pay much attention to the 2d images. I know that I could have adjusted it to make it better, I will next time before posting any more images.
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Roy, the latest update fixed my mal-performing GLS10. The 18.10 update for my 8610xsv is fine so the combination of the two brought mine back clearer then ever. I also bought the Perspective mount that Summit Fishing has and installed it. Will compare with the one from Garmin when it gets here. Unfortunately, I will not be able to try it until the shelter in place is removed and the ramps and lakes are opened back up.


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I wouldn't be surprised if they close all the ramps here at any time.

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Here are a few new screenshots that I took yesterday. The pollen and/or algae bloom is really clouding up the water so I had to move my frequencies down from mega to 455 to get some decent images. It does this every year at this time for a few weeks. Good news the crappie are starting to relate to brush. Bad news is last 2 Garmin updates has messed up mine and others Livescope with excess clutter and dead zones. I'm just thankful to get out!

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Did you preform a factory reset after last update? Several users have reported this fixed the issue while some say they still have same problem.

Yes I reset factory defaults, it didn't help me. Garmin is sending me an sd card with latest update for me to reload to make sure my files are not corrupted.

Let us know

That ditch and drop looks sweet ! I am confident you will get issues ironed out soon.

I did the factory resets and it didn’t help mine either here is a screen shot of a brush pile in the 10-25ft forward range and it’s barely showing up. This was taken with settings that was suggested by Garmin which was all factory settings. Tech sent my pictures to the engineers waiting to see what happens next. It has become very frustrating!!!! If you have not updated your unit DON’T!!!!
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Keith, you are correct!
Looks like you have that lovely starburst as well. Now if you turn your gain up to see better detail on the brush the "snow" will only get worse. Looks like you have a couple of dead zones as well around 10 and 18 feet out that would also still show nothing even when you crank the gain up. Ask me how I know, lol.
Garmin needs to get this fixed!

One would think that it would be easiest to re-release the last update that worked fine for all until they figure out the perspective update that has messed up the mass.

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One would think that it would be easiest to re-release the last update that worked fine for all until they figure out the perspective update that has messed up the mass.

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I agree but Garmin doesn't want to do this and admit they have an issue!

Can you install a previous update before this latest update and over ride the latest update? I know we can do that with our HB’s. I save a copy of all my updates and it seems to me, lowrance, Humminbird and garmin seems to fubar something up every time they give out a update.

cevans, yes some have done that and been successful. In the past I've updated my Garmin via Active Captain app and I didn't save copies of the updates.
Garmin will not send you a previous update. Several people have made this update available through "dropbox" I'm just a little apprehensive getting the software through a 3rd party. It would probably be just fine but if I messed up something while doing the forced update then I got nothing.

You know anyone that has a previous version for echomap?

I found it so disregard.

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I found it so disregard.

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Any way I can get a copy?


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Any way I can get a copy?


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Post #8 here:

Roll back gls 10 to version 2.10 help!

I haven’t done it yet but will when I get home tonight.

Thanks for the link got it downloaded with no problem except I lost all my waypoints so you might want to save them before forcing the update. If you use active captain you can do it with that. Good Luck and let’s hope this works!!!!


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Keith, please post some images of your results when you can get out.

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Keith, please post some images of your results when you can get out.

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I will it will probably be Saturday looks like 15-20 mph winds tomorrow.


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I only had my unit for a week and no waypoints set. Went to update my ultra via active captain thinking I’d have a choice which downloads I want to install. Ended up installing my ultra and livescope update. If there was an option to choose I must of missed it. Will be doing all updates via SD card from now on. I downloaded and installed too.

Garmin is a little different. Updates are the same on sd card or Active Captain and whatever is on the update is what is installed as long as it is newer than what you already have, you don't get to pick and choose.

Here is a couple of screen shots after I forced the update of version 2.20. The two dots you see at the top of the brush pile in the first picture is a split shot and a jig below it [emoji4][emoji4][emoji4]it’s been a while since I’ve been able to see that looks like my problem is fixed!!!!

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Here is a picture of a couple of crappie I caught off of that pile. I’m a happy camper once again[emoji41]
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Keith,
Pretty fish but even prettier images. They look really good! Looks like I'm going to have to seriously consider force reloading the older soft ware. Congratulations!

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Keith,
Pretty fish but even prettier images. They look really good! Looks like I'm going to have to seriously consider force reloading the older soft ware. Congratulations!

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Thanks! I not sure if it makes a difference but the update file did say it was for Echomap series. If you run in to a problem I’ll be glad to meet you and we can update it using my unit it want take but a min I can even bring my SD Card. Power supply is the same on all of the units it will plug right in just let me know if you need to do it that way.


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Thanks, I just may take you up on that after I test my new transducer and black box next week. I'm really glad that this worked so well for you!