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Has anyone on here ever participated or heard of a fish fry for the homeless at one of the tent camps? We have many camps here in Huntsville. I just wonder if it would be an effective way to reach out and love on a neighbor. I welcome all input about this idea.
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My son does a lot of work with several camps in Huntsville and has lots of contacts dealing with those types places . I can get with him and get you some information on doing that if it works out for ya! I could help with getting You some fish !
I think it’s a good idea. If you decide to do it I would be willing to help if work would allow. Sorry but I wouldn’t be much help with getting fish. Lol
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Very sad. Maybe you could coordinate with one of the local benevolence groups:Quote:
Originally Posted by Barnettcrew
huntsville homeless - Bing
That's a unique idea. You have my attention.
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Well, let’s pray about it and see where God leads us. I just joined a small group at church that ministers to the local homeless folks. I’ll run it by them first to see where it goes. If that doesn’t take off, we may reach out to Slabprowlers contacts and try that route. If that doesn’t work out, I’ll go down myself and try to coordinate with the camps that I know about. Some things to think about would be a location that would reach the most at one time I’m thinking. This is all a very new idea for me, so bare with me as we try to move forward. I would appreciate your prayers for wisdom on the best way to pull this off. I know we could do this in our own strength, but I want to be dependent on God for this to work so that it glorifies Him, not us.
Again, if anyone has any input or would like to be involved some way, speak up. Thanks!
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I can totally relate to that. I haven’t been fishing for quite awhile and the last few times I did go, I didn’t put many in the boat. LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Damion Kidd
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There is an organization in the Huntsville/Athens area called Hearts for Homeless. I am not very familiar with them but a year or so ago I saw a lot they were doing on Facebook. You might get in touch with with them. I’m not following the person anymore but the page is still there.
Never done a fish fry but my church feeds the homeless and the jail regularly. I have been involved in most of them but I'm a good way from you. I would ask local churches if I was you.
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A few Christian thoughts for our consideration: Country fresh fish for the homeless people.
I cannot think of any better reason to reinstate and participate in “Catch and Kill” fishing tournaments and supplying fresh caught fish FREE to a greater cause, local hunger and malnutrition. It make little difference in the species of fish provide the fish is fresh, plentiful, healthy and FREE. I would hope PETA and even the hardest of the hard core conservation minded activist would endorse and possibly support something like this.
Invite the homeless to partake of the post tournament fish fry or just deliver the fresh fish to the homeless camp sites after the tournaments. That would mean fresh fish meals, protein for the homeless nearly every week-end from June through mid-September.
Surely someof the local churches may be interested in helping feed the homeless? Maybe? It would surely be worth a try.
Any thoughts?
bob331, I love your idea but the asshat bass tournament elites will never share their fish to feed anybody. Maybe some more God fearing regular guys will though.
One speed bump in this whole process may be the lack of a USDA stamp of approval on the fish. It may not apply, but it could. I think there use to be or may still be some ways to donate deer meat to the needy, but I don't know that for certain. Not trying to be a black cloud, just giving a heads up about possible issues. I go to church with a chaplain at the Downtown Rescue Mission. I'll ask him Sunday if I get a chance.
I will be glad to donate fish,Quote:
Originally Posted by Barnettcrew
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I appreciate all the input. I’m still making calls and gathering information. Some of the feedback I’ve received relates to the number of people we want to serve. I’ve been told the following:
A small camp could have 10-25 people
A little larger camp could have 25-75 people
Some folks that stay at the Downtown Rescue Mission told me that the turnout could be between 2-300 if we got the word out ahead of time. I’m supposed to speak with a representative at the mission to verify these numbers.
I’m still looking into how we fry the capacity of fish for the various size camps. This is still in the very early phase of a good idea, but I’m learning more each day. My thought right now is that we may start at one of the small camps first to get our feet wet and learn some lessons. Then move to larger camps if it is well received and we want to continue.
The original thought was this would be one fish fry. It seems the logistics of reaching very many of these folks may require more than one event, and vary in size. I’m still praying and learning. As always, I welcome all input. It’s obvious to me that I don’t know or have what it takes to pull this off. So, if this actually works, it will be because of God blessing and providing all that will be needed. And, judging from some of your all’s offers to help, He may just use some Crappie.Com folks to make this happen. Thanks again for the offers and input. I will post more when I learn more.
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Yikes, Speed bumps… Good point about possible USDA requirements controlling donated fish or any food to the homeless. Could be State Health Department requirements/prohibitions too. Probably need some sort of legal documents signed and dated buy the homeless releasing the fish givers from any liability if when the homeless take possession, eat or take those fish and so on. May be too complicatedand cumbersome to mess with. Feeding the homeless may evoke too much liability.I’ll look into to this more.
Simon Peter would be shocked at the complications of giving fish to the homeless these days.
What has the department of agriculture have anything to do with fish or feeding hungry people... bangingmyhead..
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They don't, but they do set the standards for which the homeless shelters have to use to give them food.Quote:
Originally Posted by catchNgrease
So maybe check with a shelter to see what the restrictions might be.Quote:
Originally Posted by FurFlyin
My wife and I donate extra garden vegetables to the Rose of Sharon kitchen on North Parkway. They may accept fish, and do a great job feeding the needy!
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After more research last week and a phone call or 2 there may be more than a little “Speed Bump” to consider. Looks like there is a BIG blinking “Caution Sign” and then possibly a BIGGER red flashing “Stop Lights” attached to providing FREE local gamefish for feeding the homeless.
So what do you think?
I chatted with a bass tournament director about feeding the homeless with local caught freshwater gamefish: 1st – tournament bass fishermen generally DO NOT EAT BASS and scorn others that do eat bass. 2nd -about giving fish to charity, the hungry homeless folk.
For what this is worth if it’s worth anything, maybe a “speed bump” to consider regarding giving wild game fish to charity and EPA regulations regarding dumping these unknown livewell chemical supplements back into public waters: food safety, FDA animal (fish) drug regulations for fish that is commonly consumed by humans and e the potential liability of using unknown chemical fish dips on fish that may be eaten by humans post dipping and so on. Dipping being soaking in small boat livewells using these unknown chemical supplements containing water coloring dyes, antibiotics and antifungal drugs, tranquilizing drugs, dechlorinating chemicals like Amquel and sodium thiosulfate and other FDA controlled chemicals and drugs used on food fish that may be consumed by humans (cultured fish and wild fish).
B.A.S.S. Keeping bass Alive , Livewell management Recommendations https://www.bassmaster.com/sites/default/files/bassmaster2011/imce/KBA_LivewellManage.pdf
“Most commercial livewell additives contain salts, but somealsocontain ingredients that are not approved by the U.S. Food and DrugAdministration for use on fish that may be treated, released, then caught againat a later date and pos*sibly eaten by humans. For this reason, State andFederal fisheries agencies cannot recommend the use of these products.”
Texas Parks and Wildlife Department, Catch andRelease Guidelines Livewell Management https://tpwd.texas.gov/fishboat/fish/recreational/catchrelease/livewell.phtml“Never use commercial water additives unless they are in agreement with FDA and EPA regulations.”
Amquelhttps://pentairaes.com/kordon-amquelr-plus.html Uses no sodium thiosulfate, contains no formaldehyde and is nontoxic to all fish and invertebrates[BUT] (not FDA-approved for use with food fish).
This TD says there are some Federal regulations he is aware of that apply specifically to approved FDA drugs, dyes and chemical fish dips used on food fish. There are also EPA regulations relating to this matter too. Other drugs and dips use on tropical aquaria species or bait fish are prohibited for use on food fish. Hatcheries and fish farmers are authorized touse these vet drugs and chemical dips, but after food fish are exposed to these chemicals, food fish have a specific quarantine time allowing for these drugs/chemicals to leave the fish’s body before they are killed, processed and eaten by humans, 30 days more or less.
Many tournament fishing contestants,tournament directors and fish saver livewell supplement manufactures encourage the use of many unknown livewell chemicals that are not FDA certified nor approved for use on tournament game fish that are treated with these drugs and dips during tournaments, then released alive, caught the next day, killed and then consumed by humans that have no idea these fish ere soaked 7-8 hours in these chemicals the previous day at a fishing tournament.
Commercial fish saver supplements manufactures (Sure Life Products Please Release Me, Bass Medics Rejuvenade, Marine Metal U-2 formula, Fishlife Livewell Treatment and others) specifically targeting the tournament C&R fishing business provide consumers with no chemical components identified in the packaging, on the fixed label or even when you request a MSDS. Aquaculture companies that sell fish drugs and chemical dips to consumers do specify the chemical contents on labels and MSDS. They also specifies USE ON TROPICAL FISH ONLY and FOR USE WITH LIVE BAIT FISH ONLY. These companies often have the buyer sign and date a legal form upon sale of these fish care supplements that states the buyer will not use these drugs of chemical dips on food fish for human consumption.
The tournament fish saver chemicalmanufactures routinely discounting FDA food fish regulations for approved drugsand chemical dip application on food fish (tournament game fish).
I’m a little slow coming up to speed, but it seems everything I read was specific to tournament bass fishing. Do crappie and catfish folks treat fish in the live wells also? If not, is the speed bump still a speed bump? I guess when I had this idea in the beginning, my thought was crappie and bluegill because that’s what I eat. Another member on here reached out to me privately about providing catfish. Tournament fish and chemicals never entered my mind. So, even if we rule out bass, I guess I still need to check the regulations on the other non-tournament fish. I spoke with the gentleman that runs the local Catholic fish fries and they purchase all of their fish so they don’t have to worry about these type of regulations. Thanks for the info and I’ll keep researching...
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Useless information.Quote:
Originally Posted by bob331
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